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medicinalmush
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Adden]
#25586710 - 11/02/18 12:07 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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well done!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Nimph]
#25587015 - 11/02/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nimph said: Nice azure patch! You taking prints?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: mushroomnate]
#25587063 - 11/02/18 03:01 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah me 3 I have also search around here for azzie print...
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: BU4O]
#25587090 - 11/02/18 03:15 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone knows whats up with TexturedSounds? I miss him, he hasn't posted since July. :/
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Viridis420] 1
#25587491 - 11/02/18 05:53 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Viridis420 said: Cloned azurescens patch 1 is blowing up. About 6 weeks later than the year before. Been so dry til recently.
Note to self make the beds long so you can pick them better. Hard getting to the inner patch without stepping on them:( azurescens patch 2 has just begun to pin.
Damn that patch looks amazing. Great work!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: TheDuder]
#25587557 - 11/02/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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First time growing woodlovers and an outdoor patch. Wondering if, once i sterilize my growbags and tranfer grain spawn to them, wont that diminish the purpose of sterilizing my woodchips as i let contams into the growbags by opening them and dumping all my rye spawn into them
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Gooddays]
#25587591 - 11/02/18 06:48 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi and welcome!
Well, yes and no.. "diminish the purpose"? Well if you wouldn't open up the bags to use them it defeats the purpose of having them entirely.
You would be quite right if you just open your bags wherever, but you should instead add the spawn either in a glove box or still air box (SAB) or in front of a laminar flowhood if you get fancy.
There is a risk of contamination when you add the spawn, I guess.. but you can't do all this stuff without running any risks whatsoever tho not all risks are equally serious.
Just use teks and combine that info.. don't forget to wipe everything including the bags and jars with something like bleach. There are other techniques designed to limit risk of contam. I keep the top part of the bag folded to the side as much as possible (my glovebox also isn't *that* tall), I try to position as small a part of the jar as possible over the opening of the bag when i dump in the spawn in the folded part like an airlock. In general, never wave any objects above the opening of a contam sensitive substrate cause a contam may fall off and into it even if you sanitized. Sanitizing is not sterilizion.
If you use unsupplemented pasteurized wood then it's not quite such a problem to just inoculate in open air although i do recommend a high spawn ratio.
So, get proper teks, proper equipment if you don't already, and get experience in order to get a routine you can keep improving. There are often sets of routine movements involved and you just get better by repeating it and learning from mistakes.
can i ask what species of woodlover you are working with?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Solipsis] 3
#25587616 - 11/02/18 07:01 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm in the process of printing;)
The allenii are from outdoor patches as well under a rhody bush. Nowhere near the azure flush but I just planted them last year. The myc has expanded outward quite a bit. I'll add more chips after the season finishes. allenii
different angle of azzies
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Solipsis]
#25587618 - 11/02/18 07:02 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Solipsis, ill definately build a glove box or something along those lines and not stress it as much. Big ups! Do you know if i could spawn the woodchips and once done colonizing i could spawn those to more woodchips to create more spawn for an outdoor bed or is that too risky for contams?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Viridis420] 1
#25587638 - 11/02/18 07:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Viridis420 said: Yeah I'm in the process of printing;)
The allenii are from outdoor patches as well under a rhody bush. Nowhere near the azure flush but I just planted them last year. The myc has expanded outward quite a bit. I'll add more chips after the season finishes. allenii
different angle of azzies
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Gooddays]
#25587682 - 11/02/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gooddays said: Thanks Solipsis, ill definately build a glove box or something along those lines and not stress it as much. Big ups! Do you know if i could spawn the woodchips and once done colonizing i could spawn those to more woodchips to create more spawn for an outdoor bed or is that too risky for contams?
Well, every time you do that is another risk you stack up, so it kinda depends on whether you have your methods down in a way that makes the risks manageably low.
Make more bags than you need to compensate for possible losses - but this works best if you get some experience and have an idea of what your contamination rates are.
It is also best to use steps of expansion of your myc (which is what you are talking about) which make sense for the amount you are aiming for. Make a sort of calculation using your goal amount and what are reasonable spawn ratios and you should be able to see quickly whether it makes sense to only spawn to bulk once or expand once or maybe twice. You want to do it nice and exponentially cause if you do it more linear that could mean that you are expanding so much in such a way that it could lead to senescence, but not sure. In practice you should be fine especially if you didn't use a culture which was already kinda old.
What I did personally by the way is I used sterilized supplemented wood in my first steps of making a Ps. Cyan balcony planter but I expanded it a bit extra to pasteurized unsupplemented wood cause it's a lot easier: no PCing but just a really large pan and a lab thermometer. Works well with chunky woodchips but I wanna warn you that really fine sawdust (more like shavings) can easily get overly wet if you throw them in a container of water for a while. With chunky wood chips not so.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Solipsis]
#25587744 - 11/02/18 07:49 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Which does better under cedar trees, Ps. cyan or P. azure?
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Re: The Official Wood lovers Thread [Re: Solipsis]
#25587794 - 11/02/18 08:16 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lots of calculations and research to do now, but i think the most important things i had to figure out you've told me so thank you heaps.
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Crispy224]
#25587972 - 11/02/18 10:22 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Crispy224 said: I made these shoebox ovoids in June and just kind of forgot about them in my crawl space. Well I looked at them and misted them today. Seems as though there were a few holes in the bottom of the tubs and the mycelium started to explore. I believe I am seeing hyphenial knots. Temps are 70f day time and 40-45f nig time. At this point it's too late to place them into planters pots and case with potting soil. So I'm looking for advice. Should I just case the shoeboxes with potting soil and do some sort of dub tub? Or put like a grocery bag over them so they get some fae. I've never grown a woodlovers
Anybody got any suggestions on my ovoids? Should u bury them in they yard? Or try to case them with potting soil and do some sort of dub tub do they need significantly more FAE than cubensis?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Viridis420]
#25588001 - 11/02/18 10:45 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Viridis420 said:
The allenii have begun too. More bell shaped and much shorter than the towering azurescens.
The lighting of this photo is kinda tripping me out haha
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Viridis420]
#25588388 - 11/03/18 06:23 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Viridis420 said: Yeah I'm in the process of printing;)
The allenii are from outdoor patches as well under a rhody bush. Nowhere near the azure flush but I just planted them last year. The myc has expanded outward quite a bit. I'll add more chips after the season finishes. allenii
different angle of azzies
Wow! Wow again!
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Crispy224]
#25588390 - 11/03/18 06:23 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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crispy i would just find a good spot in your yard and leave the myc as a whole chunk for the most part(out of container) then just souround and cover, with out smothering with your local chunky wood and debri and just let it do what its going to do. Seems ovoids pretty aggressive. once introduced to all kinds of substrates.
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Can closely related mushroom species 'hybridize'? [Re: Warrk]
#25588395 - 11/03/18 06:26 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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As per subject heading. For example, if one were to grow a patch of subs next to a patch of azzies, would a cross emerge where the two patches meet?
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Re: Can closely related mushroom species 'hybridize'? [Re: Warrk]
#25588409 - 11/03/18 06:36 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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mingle until ones pushed out is my thinking
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Viridis420]
#25588471 - 11/03/18 07:19 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Viridis420 said: Yeah I'm in the process of printing;)
The allenii are from outdoor patches as well under a rhody bush. Nowhere near the azure flush but I just planted them last year. The myc has expanded outward quite a bit. I'll add more chips after the season finishes. allenii
different angle of azzies
What the heck man, thats crazy awesome !
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