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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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No way to prevent 9/11?
    #2553473 - 04/13/04 05:52 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"there was no way to prevent the attacks from occurring absent massive and prolonged violations of liberty" - pinksharkmark

I have to say, this is one of the more asinine statements I've read around here lately.
could we have prevented 9/11 without massive violations of liberty?
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InvisibleEdame
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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2554213 - 04/13/04 11:43 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

what about a 'maybe' option?


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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: Edame]
    #2554257 - 04/13/04 11:54 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Massive and prolonged violations of liberty is obviously horseshit but whether it could've been prevented or not is unknown until we get the full story of what Bush and the boys really knew.

If the intelligence services had been paying as much attention to al-qaeda as they were to making up fantasies about Iraqi WMD the odds of a successful attack would be very low.


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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2554468 - 04/13/04 12:43 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

We might have prevented 9/11 if our president and his administration had not so blatantly ignored terrorism until then.


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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2557368 - 04/13/04 11:02 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Monday morning quarterbacking......


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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2558512 - 04/14/04 09:36 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I think paying attention to field agents and foreign
agencies, propagating information throughout the
system and heeding the escalating violence against
US targets over the past 10 years could have done
wonders for prevention.

not to say it's a definitive answer, but it's pretty
clear that all the information was out there, just
in disparate systems and languishing within our
beauracracy.

government is overfunded and still failing in its
duties to us as it's citizens.


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InvisibleGijith
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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2558561 - 04/14/04 09:50 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I'm gonna say yes, but I don't think all the blame should be placed on Bush. If the question was "Could the Bush administration have prevented 9/11" I probably would have said no.

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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2558592 - 04/14/04 10:00 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"there was no way to prevent the attacks from occurring absent massive and prolonged violations of liberty" - pinksharkmark

I could think of plenty of ways that the attacks could have been prevented without "massive and prolonged violations of liberty". pinky's statement implies security can only come at the cost of liberty - the kind of thinking that's used to justify the patriot act.

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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: afoaf]
    #2559514 - 04/14/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Dude as much as I hate to say it, we needed somthing like 9/11 to make us pay attention. Before there was simply no interest in it. The biggest thing they were worrying about before was missle defence.


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Re: No way to prevent 9/11? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2559523 - 04/14/04 01:51 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)



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