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Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database
    #25582118 - 10/31/18 03:36 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

Paid for an order with cash and did not include an E-Mail address or any other personal info other than a name and address. When the order was received an invoice was included and it had an E-mail address printed on it that is linked to the shipping address the order was mailed to. The only way this could have occurred would be if Mushrooms.com keeps a log of the personal information of each customer in a database.

It has also already been disclosed that Hawk's system keeps a log of IP Addresses.

I can only assume that they keep a log of all your past orders and each item from each order.

Just a FYI.

EDIT: To be clear, I still plan on doing business with Hawk in the future and this is not an attack.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25582269 - 10/31/18 04:39 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

Just wanted to state that all or close to all websites keeps an ip address log this is totally normal. I can also about garantee you that the shroomery does also. I do work here and there and have worked with the owner of the shroomery to keep this site secure and look for bugs here and there sometimes. I have pretty in deph knoledge of how web servers work and can tell that your ip address has been logged by just about every website you visit tbis is very normal. Even big compainies like google does it. Its called a "digital footprint". Lol they disclosed that they were keeping logs. Thats funny basically every web server now adays on the web has that function being used. When it comes to the email thing you were talking about that is different. Its okay as long as a web site or web server isnt sharing or disclosing this information. If a site has your email and you dont know how they got it then i would be suspicious as that site could be getting your info from another place and saving it. Which is personal information disclosure. Which is not right.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: zacho559]
    #25582304 - 10/31/18 04:53 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

Yes, but if his computers are ever seized or subpoenaed by law enforcement for whatever reason, I don't think his customers would appreciate that for various reasons. Hackers could use that info for various purposes as well. Yes, these are hypothetical situations but they could happen someday.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25583787 - 11/01/18 10:09 AM (6 months, 16 days ago)

I understand that the cube and cyan spores sold there are for microscopy only. But the people that buy them for other purposes should be aware that orders are archived as well as IP addresses and personal info linked to them.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25593143 - 11/05/18 05:27 AM (6 months, 12 days ago)

Businesses have to keep logs lol. They pay taxes etc...


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25595443 - 11/06/18 07:27 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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Businesses have to keep logs lol. They pay taxes etc...



Keeping logs of orders is one thing but keeping a log of the cutomer's orders, IP Address, mailing address, E-Mail address etc. is something else.

Just so there is no confusion. I mailed a payment in and paid cash so I did not use the order form on their website. I also did not list an E-Mail address on that letter. When I received my order from mushrooms.com, there was an invoice included and on it was printed an E-mail account linked to the shipping address used. The only way for this to occur is if mushrooms.com keeps a database of all previous purchases as well as the customer's personal information linked to those purchases.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25595559 - 11/06/18 08:25 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Yea, duh.
Also spores are legal and the business they operate is legal so who cares lol.

I believe those sales records have to be kept by any licensed business for 3+ years.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25595891 - 11/06/18 11:01 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

One of the points that I am making is that your purchases are not anonymous and are archived at mushrooms.com. So is your personal information. Some people might care about that for various reasons.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25603180 - 11/09/18 01:33 PM (6 months, 7 days ago)

In Canada all customer info has to be kept for 7 years by anyone conducting taxable sales. If they have to be kept in the USA as well (which sounds like bodhi is saying that) then you can expect any reputable law abiding spore vendor to be doing the same.

I'd be willing to bet that all major shroomery vendors are following the law and likely need this information to be accessible for many years after your purchase for tax audit purposes.

Like stated above though...who cares? Spores are legal :shrug:


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25603907 - 11/09/18 07:35 PM (6 months, 7 days ago)

Inventory is one thing but keep customer personal info on file is something else.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25611413 - 11/13/18 08:42 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #25631040 - 11/21/18 08:21 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

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sh4d0ws said:
In Canada all customer info has to be kept for 7 years by anyone conducting taxable sales. If they have to be kept in the USA as well (which sounds like bodhi is saying that) then you can expect any reputable law abiding spore vendor to be doing the same.

I'd be willing to bet that all major shroomery vendors are following the law and likely need this information to be accessible for many years after your purchase for tax audit purposes.

Like stated above though...who cares? Spores are legal :shrug:





Records of sales need to be kept, not customer info.  If I walk into a Walmart and pay cash for a DVD, which is taxed, they don’t ask for my name and info.

I get what the OP is saying, it is good to know that your information is being kept on file.  Some people may not be comfortable with that so then they have the choice to order or not.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #25632389 - 11/22/18 12:09 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

I guess all online sales is better way to put it. You are correct it that brick and mortar shops don't do this.

Far as I know though If you're shipping canada-wide you need the address it was shipped to for tax records to know the GST and PST or HST that is to be paid. Maybe I am wrong on this too?


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25632925 - 11/22/18 05:00 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

No, just the receipt or invoice.  It is up to Canadian customs and immigration to charge taxes and duty if they catch it.  Some things we get will get charged and others just go on through.
I have to deal with customs once in a while.
Maybe in the USA they would have to keep the address, I’m not sure.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree] * 1
    #25634195 - 11/23/18 10:46 AM (5 months, 24 days ago)

Hello Guys,
I spend an extra $3120 a year on web site security to protect your guys personal information. I don't know many small business who do that, or other vendors for that matter. This is listed in my FAQ. https://www.mushrooms.com/faq-frequently-asked-questions

TieACable2aTree: I remember your order and looking up your email from an older order so I could send you the tracking #. And as I recall I could not read your writing so I had to look and see if there was a previous order. I would have had no way to send that order if there was not a previous order. This is where that database comes in a real handy as well as the people who try and scam me for free spores.

I also know a spore vendor who went through an intense audit with the IRS and the IRS did NOT ask for customer information. They are after money, not names of customers ordering legal mushroom spores.


Also as noted in my FAQ, you are welcome to email me after you receive your order and I will delete your name and address from the order.
IF you want to send a completely anon cash order, then include in your order that you DON'T want a tracking number. We will simply throw a stamp on it and drop in the mail. But please don't email asking when it will ship out, what is your tracking #, if we received it. Because I won't have a record of it to answer those questions.

In my 20 years in this industry, none of my customers have ever been harassed by police for ordering spores. Remember spores are legal so don't over think it. :smile:

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Here is the info from my FAQ:

Is mushrooms.com secure?

Yes. We have put in extra security features in to Mushrooms.com to ensure your information is encrypted and private.

Our admin uses a 2 step verification process so nobody can hack our password.  And it’s device dependent so anyone accessing our admin has to be on our local computer. This is critical as it keeps all the customers data safe.
We have installed professional security scripts to prevent hackers from injecting malicious code in to mushrooms.com.
Mushrooms.com is NOT on a cheap shared IP hosting plan with other web sites as we have our own server hosted by a highly reviewed and respected company that monitors the servers 24/7 for hackers. We also pay a professional security firm to harden our server and make it more secure and monitor it. Having a web site on cheap shared IP plan is one way hackers inject malicious code at the server level. We learned our lesson the hard way about this once at our previous web site. Never again.
We use an SSL encryption for all the data that is sent between our order form, your bank and our gateway service. It's extremely rare you ever hear of SSL's getting hacked. You can always see a web site SSL is working by looking in the URL bar for a pad lock symbol or the URL address. Also the URL will be httpS instead of http.
You're credit card information is not stored on our server, it is only transmitted to our gateway service Auhorize.net which is a well know and respected card processing gateway service.
We have taken a lot of measures to secure your data and credit card transactions, and we are always looking for new innovation in security to add to Mushrooms.com

and from my Privacy Policy:

PRIVACY POLICY
We do not give or sell your personal data to anyone. We hate spam and find it annoying and a big waste of time.

We do not store your credit card information on our servers. It’s all transmitted to the banks through encrypted SSL.

As you may have noticed there is no 3rd party advertisements on this web site. Our customers privacy has always been a priority around here. We have added in extra security features to prevent our admin from being hacked.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #25634398 - 11/23/18 12:24 PM (5 months, 24 days ago)

Thanks for taking the time to respond.  I like doing business with you and will continue to do so :cheers:


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #25636746 - 11/24/18 04:45 PM (5 months, 23 days ago)

Quote:

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TieACable2aTree: I remember your order and looking up your email from an older order so I could send you the tracking #. And as I recall I could not read your writing so I had to look and see if there was a previous order. I would have had no way to send that order if there was not a previous order. This is where that database comes in a real handy as well as the people who try and scam me for free spores.




The order was not written, it was typed in a word processor and then printed out. This order did not use your order form on your website either. It was typed out and mailed in.

You are bullshitting to save face or you have another order confused with the one that I referenced.


Edited by TieACable2aTree (11/24/18 04:51 PM)


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25684764 - 12/17/18 09:13 AM (5 months, 1 day ago)

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TieACable2aTree said:
Quote:

Ryche Hawk said:

TieACable2aTree: I remember your order and looking up your email from an older order so I could send you the tracking #. And as I recall I could not read your writing so I had to look and see if there was a previous order. I would have had no way to send that order if there was not a previous order. This is where that database comes in a real handy as well as the people who try and scam me for free spores.




The order was not written, it was typed in a word processor and then printed out. This order did not use your order form on your website either. It was typed out and mailed in.

You are bullshitting to save face or you have another order confused with the one that I referenced.




LOL... seriously? I've dealt with a lot of bad handwriting orders, I do what I can to figure out the puzzle.

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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #25873427 - 03/14/19 08:57 AM (2 months, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Ryche Hawk said:
Quote:

TieACable2aTree said:
Quote:

Ryche Hawk said:

TieACable2aTree: I remember your order and looking up your email from an older order so I could send you the tracking #. And as I recall I could not read your writing so I had to look and see if there was a previous order. I would have had no way to send that order if there was not a previous order. This is where that database comes in a real handy as well as the people who try and scam me for free spores.




The order was not written, it was typed in a word processor and then printed out. This order did not use your order form on your website either. It was typed out and mailed in.

You are bullshitting to save face or you have another order confused with the one that I referenced.




LOL... seriously? I've dealt with a lot of bad handwriting orders, I do what I can to figure out the puzzle.

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Yes, seriously.


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Re: Just a FYI, Mushrooms.com aka T.H.E. keeps your personal info in a database [Re: TieACable2aTree]
    #25873467 - 03/14/19 09:23 AM (2 months, 7 days ago)

I honestly dont mind that ryche keeps our info its a legal thing and buying spores is also legal, ive traded with him before and he is a good guy, I doubt that he is doing anything wrong with the information


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