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A Tale of Two Grow Ops
    #25579704 - 10/30/18 08:05 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Everyone!!!

I have been reading this forum for years while Ive been growing, and I finally felt like I have enough experience to contribute!

I just wanted to share about the setup I have going on right now, as I figure some other people on this forum may be able to do something similar :grin:

My boyfriend is a very experienced grower of cannabis (over 10 years experience) and we currently have a small grow room in our apartment. The only reason is because our outdoor crop of 16 massive plants was wiped out by mold during this years relentlessly soggy summer. First year it ever happened.

But it turns out to be great for my cubes! The grow room provides the perfect environment for them. It's warm because of the LED lights, but not warm enough to produce a bacterial bloom in my colonizing jars. The light is regulated 12 on/12 off (at least during the veg state, but I think it will be ok when we cut the light down for fruiting). Aaaand all the air is filtered to reduce the smell, so that means a clean environment for my colonizing babies.

Right now there is not enough room for me to put my mono tubs in there with the plants during fruiting time, but this is our goal when we have a house. These two psychoactive organisms can really get along! I wish I could take photos of the operation, but my boyfriend would kill me lol.

Next year, we plan to grow cubes in the outdoor garden, right in the raised beds with the cannabis. Hoping that it becomes the most beautiful sight Ive ever seen.

Anyways, I'm wondering if anyone else has a tandem grow op with cubes (or other psilocybe species) with marijuana plants? They seem to go really well together.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25579841 - 10/30/18 08:49 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

never fruit near plants.

sounds like you are living in a fantasy world where mushrooms and weed can combine powers. so much of what you say is wrong/bad (attempted)mushroom cultivation.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25579844 - 10/30/18 08:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: pablokabute]
    #25579849 - 10/30/18 08:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)


not indoors. thats called contamination.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579882 - 10/30/18 09:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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never fruit near plants.

sounds like you are living in a fantasy world where mushrooms and weed can combine powers. so much of what you say is wrong/bad (attempted)mushroom cultivation.





I'm not sure how it can be bad when I produce very successful results? Its not a fantasy...its been going on for months in this way, and Ive been growing mushrooms for 4 years. Im not a noob.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25579886 - 10/30/18 09:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

i didnt say you were a noob but what you said sure is noobish:shrug:

sorry. got pics:begger:

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579890 - 10/30/18 09:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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not indoors. thats called contamination.




Also, I don't have any contams soo....

Just because I'm colonizing my jars in a grow room, doesn't mean I'm exposing them to contams. I do want to try growing outdoors in our raised beds next year during the summer and I see no reason why that couldn't be possible.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579914 - 10/30/18 09:18 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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i didnt say you were a noob but what you said sure is noobish:shrug:

sorry. got pics:begger:




I'll try to take some soon. Maybe pics will explain the situation better. I'm just super paranoid about smart phones and I won't take any pictures with mine. I have about 36 - 48 jars going at any point in time. They are in a separate chamber above the grow room...not mixed in with the plants. Also at any time I have about four to six 27QT mono tubs that usually produce about 2oz each over the course 3 - 4 flushes (dry weight)

It may seem like a fantasy..but it's real. Thats why I wanted to share it :smile:


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25579922 - 10/30/18 09:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

im not saying what you are literally doing is a fantasy. i said the IDEA of this..

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These two psychoactive organisms can really get along!




is a fantasy. and fruiting shrooms with plants(dirt) nearby is asking for trouble.

2-3 oz per tub first flush should be your benchmark:thumbup:

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579930 - 10/30/18 09:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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never fruit near plants.





Mushrooms fruit near plants all of the time. There's no reason why she can't have mushrooms between the rows of outdoor plants. I have gardens with plants and mushrooms side by side. Indoors won't work for obvious reasons.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #25579943 - 10/30/18 09:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

i am talking about INDOORS.. this forum is indoor mushcult. i assume everyone is referring to indoor:shrug:
and thats splitting hairs anyway. fruiting mushrooms INDOORS near plants is asking for trouble.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579957 - 10/30/18 09:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

well, I am glad I am hitting the benchmark even with small sized tubs, but don't people do outdoor grows all the time? There are all sorts of outdoor teks posted here on the forum. Ive seen people growing cubes happily in their veggie gardens. So I'm not sure what you mean about not growing them near plants? It seems really common and no reason why it shouldn't be feasible in summer when the conditions are ideal.

Im talking about two different things. right now I am colonizing and fruiting indoors. Next summer I want to try the garden. I just saw a photo today of someone fruiting cubes under a basil plant and on top of a cluster of potatoes in the ground. Why couldn't I grow out of raised beds in the woods with cannabis plants? We already grow the plants in manure, coir, and organic compost...so why couldnt we try an outdoor bulk grow for fun?


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25579962 - 10/30/18 09:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I've seen plenty of outdoor grows posted in this forum, either way you're def right about indoors.

Why would you even want your tubs taking up space in a grow room when they can be placed anywhere? It seemed so self evident that I thought she must be talking about outdoor, which would be a cool sight.

Outdoor can be done.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #25579967 - 10/30/18 09:37 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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never fruit near plants.





Mushrooms fruit near plants all of the time. There's no reason why she can't have mushrooms between the rows of outdoor plants. I have gardens with plants and mushrooms side by side. Indoors won't work for obvious reasons.




Yes, thanks. This forum is not just dedicated to indoors...there are plenty of outdoor teks posted here. Just looking to try something potentially awesome.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25579977 - 10/30/18 09:39 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

keep your indoor tubs away from plants.

god damn. :goodluckwiththat2:

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #25579993 - 10/30/18 09:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I've seen plenty of outdoor grows posted in this forum, either way you're def right about indoors.

Why would you even want your tubs taking up space in a grow room when they can be placed anywhere? It seemed so self evident that I thought she must be talking about outdoor, which would be a cool sight.

Outdoor can be done.




Im colonizing my jars above the plants in the grow room. The tubs fruit in a different space of their own, but I would fruit them near the plants if I could. Honestly we have house plants, and cats, and you name it all over the apartment. I just almost never get contams because I follow proper procedure when inoculating and colonizing, and I isolate good genetics. Seriously, Ive been doing this for years ad having plants nearby has never caused a problem. I can't understand why people get so many contams.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25580002 - 10/30/18 09:47 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Well you said it yourself, that you're "not a noob". So why bother asking, just do it and see if it works. Not sure why you would even want to put tubs in an indoor pot grow, whatever floats your boat.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #25580024 - 10/30/18 09:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

honestly, I was sharing more than asking.

This is one serious reason why I have waited for years to post here. Sometimes people share something and they just get shot down immediately.

Im not asking if this works... I'm saying "hey! this thing works! maybe give it a try!" (and maybe I'll try it outdoors too as an experiment)

thats all...yeesh.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25580030 - 10/30/18 09:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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never fruit near plants.

sounds like you are living in a fantasy world where mushrooms and weed can combine powers. so much of what you say is wrong/bad (attempted)mushroom cultivation.




:waitwhat:
Attempted revision revised with an edit.
I want to live in that world though... :sad:


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: gizmodo]
    #25580055 - 10/30/18 10:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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never fruit near plants.

sounds like you are living in a fantasy world where mushrooms and weed can combine powers. so much of what you say is wrong/bad (attempted)mushroom cultivation.




:waitwhat:
Attempted revision revised with an edit.
I want to live in that world though... :sad:




Right? Im even more determined to make it happen now outdoors. Not sure why so many people would discourage me. If it happens next year I will surely take pictures and update everyone.

Right now I'm just saying that our tandem grow is perfect.  The warm lights and expensive-ass filter make it a fool-proof zone for colonization. Ive had no contams and VERY rapid mycelial growth due to warm temps.

and thank you for this Paul Rudd Gif lol


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: gizmodo]
    #25580068 - 10/30/18 10:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, that's a bit harsh of a welcome. OP is just doing it on the side as a hobby, not a proper myco operation. If it's any consolation, I use an unfinished basement that was built in the 1940's (please imagine it). My contamination usually comes from the grain to substrate transfer because I didn't properly PC the substrate. Everything else goes smoothly as long as you are diligent and meticulous.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: spideruski]
    #25580085 - 10/30/18 10:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Warm temps? Sounds like contamination.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: gizmodo]
    #25580096 - 10/30/18 10:20 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Warm temps? Sounds like contamination.

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dude....I DONT have any contams...at all. Read the rest of my posts in this thread before responding please. The temps are only in the 70s...nothing crazy. Its just so much nicer than the rest of our apartment with is in the low 60s this time of year.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25580126 - 10/30/18 10:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I never said you did. :derfase:

Welcome to the Shroomery.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: spideruski]
    #25580129 - 10/30/18 10:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Damn, that's a bit harsh of a welcome. OP is just doing it on the side as a hobby, not a proper myco operation. If it's any consolation, I use an unfinished basement that was built in the 1940's (please imagine it). My contamination usually comes from the grain to substrate transfer because I didn't properly PC the substrate. Everything else goes smoothly as long as you are diligent and meticulous.




Thanks for chiming in! I have seen a lot of similar situations on the forum. Growing in basements or old buildings...I seriously don't have terrible contam issues otherwise I'd be posting in the contam forum. Im trying to share a success story....guess it doesn't count because I don't have pics.

Maybe one in 10 tubs will get contamned and thats usually due to poor genetics or my mono tub isn't dialed in right. But otherwise the conditions in the grow room (again, I have a separate chamber that we made ABOVE the small grow Op) have made for speedy and contamn-free colonization. Once the tubs are colonized, i move them elsewhere because we don't have enough room in that space yet, and because a drop in temperature helps promote pinning. But Ive had more success this year with the grow room than i have in the previous 3 years.


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: gizmodo]
    #25580148 - 10/30/18 10:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I never said you did. :derfase:

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Thanks, man. Sorry. You are totally right that warm temps can lead to contams. I made the mistake of using an incubator a few years ago when i started and that led to all sorts of contams. But these warm temps are mild...just 75 degrees or so. Much warmer than the rest our apartment which is in an old farmhouse. Its also clean because all the air is going through a HEPA filter :smirk:


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy] * 1
    #25580171 - 10/30/18 10:42 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe one in 10 tubs will get contamned and thats usually due to poor genetics or my mono tub isn't dialed in right.




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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25580189 - 10/30/18 10:48 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

And now I just get Jake Gyllenhaal shaking his head? lol what does that even mean? Mushboy, I respect your experience...and your hornyness according to your mood...but you are just fighting me for no good reason.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25580200 - 10/30/18 10:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

it means that what you are saying is incorrect. hes shaking his head disapprovingly. because he disagrees with your assumption.
contamination comes from the grower(you) doing stupid shit. not the genes or the chamber. a poorly dialed in chamber still fruits.. just looks like shit.

edit:

eh. sorry for being douche but you are either full of shit or horribly misinformed about how to grow mushrooms. or both:shrug:

edit part 2:

just realized you are a lady..
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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: mushboy]
    #25580223 - 10/30/18 11:02 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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it means that what you are saying is incorrect. hes shaking his head disapprovingly. because he disagrees with your assumption.
contamination comes from the grower(you) doing stupid shit. not the genes or the chamber. a poorly dialed in chamber still fruits.. just looks like shit.

edit:

eh. sorry for being douche but you are either full of shit or horribly misinformed about how to grow mushrooms. or both:shrug:




I was just kidding dude I know what it means. Yeah maybe I did do something wrong when tubs get contamned, possibly I didn't pasteurize my bulk sub correctly or something. But I think that getting a contamn now and then is just normal...its human error and I'm only human. Im just saying its not due to having my tubs near plants. If thats true they would all get contamned because thats where they have all been for ages. Ive only had one tub get a tiny bit of Trich in the last 5 months and I tossed it right away. Im sure it was because I did something stupid and i learned from that tub. Thats how we learn and get better. But everything else has been just awesome.

and yes....I am a female yoga teacher/rock-climber with long dreads and a killer personality...and I think your GIFs are hilarious. :heart:

I will try to post pics of my grow sometime...I think it may change your opinion :grin:


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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: BloomingAlchemy]
    #25580476 - 10/31/18 01:34 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hey B, welcome to the forums, and sorry about the less than warm welcome. Hope you'll be able to pull off your outdoor raised bed, and that you get some good results from it.

Would be delighted to see some pics of your op :grin:

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: TimelyTear]
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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: teladi]
    #25581833 - 10/31/18 01:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I have been thinking of this recently. Can cubes be used as a mycorrhiza? Could spent subs be mixed into your compost piles and used for pot grows. Just wondering about ways to use spent subs.

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Re: A Tale of Two Grow Ops [Re: Elderlyone]
    #25581867 - 10/31/18 01:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

You’re misled in thinking a filter in the grow room provides a major benefit for your mushrooms.
People grow in moldy houses all day long around here with no issue. Same with the lights, mushrooms can grow just fine with natural light and will grow in 60’s-70’s no problem

As far as posting pictures, thousands of others do it here without trouble and no one has been popped over some pictures of mushrooms on a drug forum. Some pictures of your results might reinforce your point that your grow op works successfully

If you search around the forums for threads similar to yours, you’ll find that most of what has been said has been repeated here. I’d grow my weed in one room and the tubs in the other, for the same reasons mushboy has said


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