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Humidity won't drop
    #25577223 - 10/29/18 07:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I'm doing PF Tek, and I recently birthed some cakes, did the dunk and roll, and put them in the fruiting chamber, which is a commercial unit I bought from MushroomCube.com that has two tote boxes and an automatic humidifier. I also did a quick initial misting. Currently only one of the two tote boxes is occupied.

The humidity didn't take long to rise to 99% and stay there. The humidifier stopped running once the humidity got above 90% or so, but even so it's been at 99% now for at least 26 hours.

Is this a problem? It's my understanding that the humidity should be kept at 90%. I've opened the tote box a few times to get the humidity down, but it just rises back up again.

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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: Eirenaios]
    #25577252 - 10/29/18 07:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

You want it to flucuate


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: cronicr]
    #25577253 - 10/29/18 07:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

In other words focus on lots of fae


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #25577566 - 10/29/18 10:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Better to stick to the actual TEK and use a SGFC, which is pretty set and forget (other than misting when it looks dry). Don't see many people boasting success from kits like that, which are garbage imo.

Don't rely on sensors, hoses, pumps or humidifiers to maintain proper conditions.
Learn to use your eyes to understand what the mushrooms need.


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: UnsungHero]
    #25577594 - 10/29/18 10:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

First off... how did you order something from myco cube? I've checked them out a few times for shits and gigs and can't actually order anything? Not that I'm gonna but... so far I couldn't if I wanted to so... :shrug:


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: LotKid]
    #25577804 - 10/30/18 12:41 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

As other people here have said you would probably have better luck with just a standard SGFC. Humidifier isn't going to do anything but fuck up your grow. I would even go so far as to say it might be in your best interest to make an SGFC and take them out of that grow kit as soon as you can.

The humidity probably isn't at 99% after opening it up and fanning it out with the humidifier off. Hygrometers are notorious for being wildly inaccurate.

Cubensis Mycelium does not need a humid environment to thrive, they need water to produce fruit bodies (The dunk and roll) and evaporation as a trigger to begin pinning (Misting).


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: cronicr]
    #25578078 - 10/30/18 07:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

A SGFC isn't an option for me; I have a hard time seeing how it can be an option for anyone with a job. There's no way I'm going to be available (at home) to mist 3 times a day. Add on top of that the fact that sometimes I don't come home at night (staying at the girlfriend's) or have the occasional business trip lasting several days.

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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: Eirenaios]
    #25578149 - 10/30/18 08:10 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Humidity fruiting chamber. Search it.


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: Eirenaios]
    #25578177 - 10/30/18 08:32 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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A SGFC isn't an option for me; I have a hard time seeing how it can be an option for anyone with a job. There's no way I'm going to be available (at home) to mist 3 times a day. Add on top of that the fact that sometimes I don't come home at night (staying at the girlfriend's) or have the occasional business trip lasting several days.



It was made by RR when he was working 10-12 hour shifts plus travel plus having a life as a way to not have to babysit cakes. And to handle cakes for weekend trips with no one around. Requires less work than brushing your teeth twice a day. Mist em once in the morning once at night. Basically one of the most automated FCs for cakes that there is.

You shouldn't be measuring humidity anyway. Pay attention to the cakes not some ridiculous gauge.

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But if the SGFC is so good that it doesnt need improvement then why does it need to be fanned multiple times a day?




Says who?

Perhaps for 'best' results, it should be fanned with the lid whenever you mist, but the fact is, I and many other people who work long hours have left them unattended and had excellent results.  I've left a shotgun terrarium full of fruiting cakes closed up for over 24 hours, and the CO2 level has never exceeded 1000 ppm.
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The shotgun terrarium already is automatic.  It works based on natural circulation patterns, where air travels from areas of high pressure to low.  I designed it when I was working 12 hour days, with an hour of travel time and couldn't be there for 14 hours per day, and still needed to sleep during that off time.

You mist to make up for substrate moisture lost due to the automatic fresh air exchange, which happens even at 99% humidity.  There is no free ride.  If you put an airstone and bubbler in the terrarium, the slight positive pressure that is created screws up the operation, destroying the entire principle that makes it work.
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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: Eirenaios]
    #25578432 - 10/30/18 10:46 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

It's not as high of maintenance as you think, I'll usually mist and fan once before I go to work, once when I get home, sometimes it needs a little more, sometimes it needs a little less but on average that schedule seems to work well for me. It's easy to just look into your terrarium and see if the cakes are drying out or not. Sometimes I'll be busy and forget to mist for an entire day, it never causes a problem, just don't forget about them too long.

Being that sometimes you're away for several days at a time, a monotub might be a better option for you.


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: TreasonX]
    #25578888 - 10/30/18 02:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Monotubs for the win. :super:


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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: LotKid]
    #25594867 - 11/05/18 09:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried to read the article on monotubs, but couldn't make heads or tails of it. It leaves out a lot of details and uses a lot of terminology that I'm guessing someone experienced in mushroom growing already knows, but for a beginner it's just baffling.

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Re: Humidity won't drop [Re: Eirenaios]
    #25595191 - 11/06/18 02:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I've tried to read the article on monotubs, but couldn't make heads or tails of it. It leaves out a lot of details and uses a lot of terminology that I'm guessing someone experienced in mushroom growing already knows, but for a beginner it's just baffling.




The difficulty is in getting them dialed in to your situation. Differences in hole sizes, hole placement, filter material, room conditions, container dimensions, substrate, impatience require work to get the same results as some of the brilliant pictures you see. Don't aim for that, though. Get yourself a 40-80 quart/litre tub. Make two holes on each long sides above 2-4 inches from the bottom of the tub, and one hole at the top of each of the short sides. Seal the holes with duct tape. Throw in your substrate and colonized spawn, mix them up. Close the lid, and let it colonize. Remove the duct tape, add in your filter. You want more filtering in your long side holes than the short side holes. Check it every 0.5-1 day. Dial it in by loosening or tightening your filters. Search for "Dialing in monotub" for more info there. You may still have to mist and fan.

You can make things easier by going for unmodified tubs, but that requires you to find the exact same model as described. Bod uses Sterilite® Air Tight Storage Tote - Transparent with Aquarium Blue Latch 32 54 & 80 Qt sizes. Search for "unmodified monotub" teks to find others.

Or, a shoe box is a nice compromise. Again, search for one of many shoebox teks.

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