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Lab construction in tropical climates
    #25570981 - 10/27/18 08:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

After grinding it out for a few months in Canada, I'm finally ready to head back to Colombia to build a lab on my farm. 

Temperature is my biggest concern, being that it gets around 35 celcius in the sun. 

Is it ok to have the AC on a thermostat so that it will maintain a temp of 24 or so?  Most homes in colombia aren't insulated and AC units are basically for the bedroom only.

i have 10,000 bucks to get up and running.

I've looked everywhere online to try and model something after existing builds in the tropics, but there really isn't much at the level of sophistication I'm looking for.  I'd love to grow colder weather mushrooms but there's no way I can fruit those outside, even in the shade.

anyone out there rocking a tropical climate grow?  would love to hear your thoughts

Thanks!



Edit:

Lab built and functional - contamination almost zero, even when I forget to turn the air con off. The flow for the hood is higher than necessary.  Anywho... milky mushroom, kings, wine caps, Italian oyster, Reishi, agaricus Bisporus, pan cyan, and good ol cubes.  Trying to upload pictures but internet in jungle sucks.  Way more shelves now but no recent pics.  Cost about 2000$ labour in, roof, aircon, tiles the lot.




Stay tuned for the grow room renovation!


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25570996 - 10/27/18 09:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Might look into Calocybe indica or the “milky mushroom”.  They grow at your temps. 


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25571070 - 10/27/18 09:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

For sure, outdoor greenhouse those will work beautifully.  I grew pink and white oysters inside my hot apartment and they worked well. 

I just want a space where I can control lab and colonization conditions, so two rooms, and I'm not sure how that will play out.


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25571308 - 10/27/18 11:47 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I've been planning for a big grow op in the next 5 years, this is what I have thought of to operate in South Africa:

The earth is cool and acts as a great heat sink. Dig into a hill or something. This will only work if temps drop low enough to empty that heat sink over winter.

An insulated shipping container. Expensive away from any ports, though.

An old farmhouse. Many were constructed with thiiicc walls, high roofs and very deep patio roofs.

How humid does it get by you? Evaporative cooling by way of monsters in greenhouses could keep temperatures down. Combine with proper greenhouse plastic.

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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: teladi]
    #25571393 - 10/27/18 12:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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The earth is cool and acts as a great heat sink...




here is simple example


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25573409 - 10/28/18 07:51 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Your lab won't need to be any different in a tropical climate.  Most contaminants come from the indoor environment anyway from your dead skin cells, carpet, pet dander, bad breath, etc.

Use a flow hood for inoculation.
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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #25591630 - 11/04/18 01:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you!  I was concerned with the inoculation room being too hot.  In santa marta it was probably 28 degrees in the house some days.  I think for what it is worth, a small window sized AC unit would keep things at a better temperature - both for working comfortably and for incubation of mycelium.

I need to bring as much as I can down, as Colombia doesn't have old furnace blower fans or hepa filters *at a reasonable price*, so would a filter for the intake of the air outside, through the air conditioner, be a smart thing to do?


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: Gele]
    #25600702 - 11/08/18 11:01 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

is the entire structure buried?


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25600735 - 11/08/18 11:19 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Window AC units do NOT pull air in from outside. I pulls inside air through it and returns it to the room.

MAKE SURE you turn your AC off for a bit prior to lab work, while scrubbing the air with your flow hood.

If your in North America now and want to take supplies back, think long and hard on just how big of a hood you want. It would really suck to go to small and struggle to get supplies for a bigger one later. Grab anything and everything you can while your up here, even cultures.


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25600828 - 11/08/18 12:01 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

i didn't think I could bring cultures through customs.  There are a 2 vendors there, but they are horrible with packaging and sterile technique.    I have the series 1 flowhood from fungi perfecti there already, but was concerned it wasn't getting the right amount of power because the fan was heating up... certainly more than the one I built here in Canada.  I'd love to bring it down but the filter is 24/24/12 and doesn't really fit in a hockey bag.  And the blower as well - i'd be expecting my name to be called over the PA system to further explain the contents of my bags haha


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25600841 - 11/08/18 12:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Every country is different. If something is hard enough to find in your country, it may be worth shipping cost, but that is up to you.


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: eldearmano]
    #25600933 - 11/08/18 12:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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i didn't think I could bring cultures through customs.  There are a 2 vendors there, but they are horrible with packaging and sterile technique.    I have the series 1 flowhood from fungi perfecti there already, but was concerned it wasn't getting the right amount of power because the fan was heating up... certainly more than the one I built here in Canada.  I'd love to bring it down but the filter is 24/24/12 and doesn't really fit in a hockey bag.  And the blower as well - i'd be expecting my name to be called over the PA system to further explain the contents of my bags haha





You should ship it, it's just a peice of lab equipment. My buddy moved to Argentina last year and he shipped some lab equipment and a pile of books, like 75lbs of books, and everything arrived at their mail office, it took a couple weeks, but its worth it.


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: MH5109]
    #25601417 - 11/08/18 04:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

the shipping from the US for the series 1 flowhood was 500 bucks.  So no way i'm doing that when I can just bring it on a plane.  plus, this is colombia man, it's way more backwards and disorganized than argentina.

checked bag can be up to 115 linear inches.  flowhood is 24x24x11.5 so it's a green light for the filter.  the blower takes up most of the hockey bag and will probably be heavy as hell.


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Re: Lab construction in tropical climates [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25601423 - 11/08/18 04:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

a friend of mine got spore syringes delivered there from sporeworks, but that doesn;t mean it will happen every time haha.  I have a ton of pan cyan prints down there so I'm not too concerned about psychoactive mushrooms.... more interested in gourmet edibles that can be grown outside.


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