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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Oggy] * 1
    #25554666 - 10/21/18 06:42 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I harvested my plants today, 2 weeks early at 10(11? idk, freakin' New England) weeks of flower. The constant rain and freezing temperatures have killed nearly everything outside and more snow is forecast for tomorrow followed by week long freezing temperatures. Didn't feel good to cut them down :frown:
They still have quite a lot of mass on them, though. Next year I will give them a bigger head start instead of wasting half the summer waiting for legalization.

Found some bud rot but I cut it all off very generously before hanging them in front of an oscillating fan in my warm, dark laundry room. I didn't separate any colas so they are looking like apartment friendly christmas tree's...

When do you guys normally trim off the excess fan leaves? I was going to do that around the third day of drying or whenever the stems snapped easily. The leaves on there now even the brown and wilted leaves, do not give easily yet. Maybe it's better do trim now before they dry?

Also what tips do you guys have for curing? Just put into jars and open every other day?



Think I already suggested it, but get a hygrometer. Burp the jars for a few hours when the humidity climbs above 68%. Trimming before or after drying is a matter of preference. Leaving the leaves on should slow down the overall drying process and give better quality nugs in the end, but IMO the difference is minimal.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon] * 1
    #25555502 - 10/21/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

heres a few more testers, a hash cultivar in F1- Giggly Wiggly, a couple expressions of a kush in F1(poly) Mighty Kern, and an ibl of Nepalese Jam we have been playing with. :smile:..


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Oggy]
    #25556799 - 10/22/18 12:28 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I personally remove all the leaves and trim on harvest day, but leave them on the stalks and stalks as big as possible (scrog setup prevents me from doing whole plants), then I hang em to dry in a dark room without fan, but it's a small room that gets fanned out with the door about 8-2 times a day, from beginning to end. Then I put em in glass jars, with glass tops if possible, and VERY IMPORTANT, BURP AT LEAST EVERY DAY!!!! If they feel too soft and moist after the first and second day I'll lay em out again, but the reason you absolutely need to BURP EVERY DAY, and preferably twice a day, is because all the life in the buds is using oxygen, and if that oxygen is all gone, you'll get ammonia production by anaerobic bacteria. And mold on top of that. I've been there and it absolutely sucks. I try to cure for at least a month, after the first 2-3 weeks everything has dried out enough and life has slowed down with it, so I burp only once per day when it's near perfection.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25558805 - 10/22/18 07:20 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

To those that have done this a few times...or anyone who knows a few things....


With certain strains/genetics.....do trichomes just never turn amber? Or some do but very little? Or in general does it take a really long time for buds to develop amber trichomes?


My Tangieland is at around 80 days/11 weeks as of today (outdoors)...It's looking ripe to my eyes but still only has about maybe 3% amber trichomes at most.

About 85% to 90% of the pistils have turned brown/orange, though it does seem to keep pushing out new pistils. The buds seem to be "foxtailing" just a little bit, nothing extreme, just some points where the calyxs are stacking and getting a bit pointy/popping out. It looks ready for picking, but if I wanted to let it go until there's 10% to 15% amber trichs it seems like I'd have to let it go for at least another 3 to 4 weeks.


None of my other plants seemed to produce much amber trichomes either...or at the rate at which they were, it seems like I'd wouldn't be harvesting them until well into November even though they were already plenty ripe looking to me eyes around the beginning of this month (besides the relatively small amount of amber trichs). They all had around 5% or less amber trichs.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #25559065 - 10/22/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like the last bit of elongation. If you're looking out at the end for amber degradation try checking further in also try looking at some of the smaller leaf for signs as they'll show first. Degradation mostly depends on environmental influences and maturation. Nutrients and hormones are another influence, the more cytokinins you feed the longer cells divide...... I cut when most bracts are full except for just a few at the end of the flowers, Or if all the resin glands are full and white ..Stigmas will continue coming out as long as conditions are favorable...food, water, light,soil temp...


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #25559647 - 10/23/18 04:45 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

It's also a whole lot easier to cut early than it is to cut too late. It really takes quite some time. It can takes weeks from the first amber color beads to 80%, and if you go 2 weeks past that, you'll probably still be good. All the while, weight still adds up slowly, but indoor lights also continue to pull power from the socket. I personally will let them go for as long as I deem possible because I'm a kush lover and I will often get anxiety with too cerebral strains.

I had to turn my quantum board a bit lower for the last week cause I was getting a lot of lightburned white bud tips... Definitely have to throw em in bloom a lot sooner next time.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25561568 - 10/23/18 08:54 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I trimmed everything up.. took about 10 hours total, can't believe how long that takes. no wonder an 8th is so damn expensive


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Oggy]
    #25561599 - 10/23/18 09:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I haven't done that whole process for a few years but I remember going through a whole lot of TV series and music while trimming. Kind of fun for like 10 minutes and then it starts getting kind of tedious. Always worth the end result though


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: cosmofish]
    #25561882 - 10/23/18 10:38 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

True dat.

I'm thinking of making a 90% iso or ethanol handrinsing station for during trimming. Getting the hash off is always a bitch and I hate spoiling all that gooey goodness...


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25563415 - 10/24/18 01:11 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)



Some first little nugs headed for the jar.  I’m gotta harvest a bunch today.  Not looking forward to all the trimming but I’d be a fool to bitch


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: cosmofish]
    #25563727 - 10/24/18 03:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Sounds like the last bit of elongation. If you're looking out at the end for amber degradation try checking further in also try looking at some of the smaller leaf for signs as they'll show first. Degradation mostly depends on environmental influences and maturation. Nutrients and hormones are another influence, the more cytokinins you feed the longer cells divide...... I cut when most bracts are full except for just a few at the end of the flowers, Or if all the resin glands are full and white ..Stigmas will continue coming out as long as conditions are favorable...food, water, light,soil temp...






Thanks for your words on that dudes.....


And yea...I too felt the plant was going through a last spurt of "elongation" and swelling & filling out.

I have scoped out the sugar leaf and they do tend to have a bit more amber trichs than the buds themselves, I do notice amber on some of the sugar leaf...probably around 10% amber on the sugar leaf, some portions have more, some less....but the buds themselves are still mostly just milky with a lone amber trich here & there, like I mentioned around 3% or so.

The weather over the past 3 or 4 weeks has been lovely...highs around 70 to 80, and lows around 45 to 55, a couple days of light rain earlier this month but other than that nothing but sunshine.



I ended up harvesting that Tangieland early this morning before sunrise...it was a cold damp morning around 42 degrees, it was the coldest and most moist morning I've felt since last spring..... I was intending on cutting er' down almost a week ago but I'm glad I ended up letting it go a bit longer....I think this TL might turn out to be the most impressive smoke I grew this year, as far as aroma/taste, aesthetic, and yield. It wasn't looking like anything special until these last two or three weeks of flowering, then it swelled up super fat, took on a whole other level of frosty-ness, started to turn some pretty colors, and it's essence/aroma seemed to become a bit more complex and "mature".









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Yeah I haven't done that whole process for a few years but I remember going through a whole lot of TV series and music while trimming. Kind of fun for like 10 minutes and then it starts getting kind of tedious. Always worth the end result though





This year was my first time growing, and my first time trimming....


I always knew trimming was a tedious process, but really didn't think it was going to take as long as it did with the first two plants I harvested lol.

....It's not a task I look forward to doing, but in some ways I do sorta enjoy it to an extent lol. It's something that's very meditative and relaxing for me, though after 3 hours or so I do start to become tired of it lol.

As I'm trimming I just look forward to all the fresh finger hash and kif I get to toke up on after :grin: .




Do any of you guys trim with your fingers instead of using snips/scissors?...I find I can trim much quicker with my fingers...Maybe I don't have the proper technique down with scissors, or maybe because I don't have nice snips/scissors, or maybe my buds were a little extra dry so finger trimming is easier :shrug: ....Is this something that some people do? I always hear folks using snips/scissors but by finger is much quicker and easier for me....and I love rolling/pulling the hash off my finger tips :drooling: .






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #25564316 - 10/24/18 06:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:smile: Americans use scissors,across the pond its more with your fingers.. Fingers are way faster, but you can pull some buds apart in strips with just fingers...I like to use scissors if im just killing time and want to zone out making bag appeal..Thats Rad its working out :wink: always nice breaking your own out :smile: Good job!! :smile:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Howefarmsmedicals]
    #25564500 - 10/24/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta have the right scissors. I picked up some $8 Fiskars off Amazon and they work pretty good. I trim quick because I don't care if I get a few sugar leaves in my bud.

How would you use your fingers? Do you just pluck out every leaf or do you have scissor hands like Edward?


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25564547 - 10/24/18 07:49 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

i had a cup with isopropyl alcohol poured into it that i sat my scissors into and wiped off with a napkin every time they were glued shut, but i did use fingers to pull off leaves that weren't buried in the bud.

i ran out of jars so I've just been giving friends branches to take home with them. :thumbup:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Oggy]
    #25564875 - 10/24/18 10:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25565404 - 10/25/18 04:26 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:smile: yep just pluck


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Howefarmsmedicals] * 1
    #25565788 - 10/25/18 08:43 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Fingers work but I have OCD and I like my buds to look like something I would buy from a shop. :shrug:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25568589 - 10/26/18 08:43 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I grew for profit for a while, so old habits die hard.  I trim for bag appeal on the top buds, the rest gets chucked in the hash/tincture pile.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Crispy224]
    #25568600 - 10/26/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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If you want it legal, be sure to learn to grow.  Legalization really dropped the quality of pot around here while driving up the price.

I still voted to legalize in Oregon.



How would legalization make weed quality worst and increase the prices. Where I live they don't even have and medical marijuana. And an ounce of good bud is $400. A quarter is $120. And ounce of Mexican swag is $140.  I couldnt imagine those prices if marijuana was legalized. Not to meantion swag would disappear.





Woof, sounds like you just don't know the right people?

Everywhere I've been in the US I have found amazing weed for reasonable prices.  I admit I have an unfair hometown advantage being from Portland Oregon, but in this day and age the internet and available information has spread good bud and excellent growing across the country.

I have been a part of both the black market, and later on the legal market.  I can say without a doubt that the quality of cannabis in this area has dropped like a penny off a sky scraper.  I have sent back so much moldy bud while doing intake that I quit.  Nothing makes a business dishonest like legality.  People just move here to grow for the green rush with NO FUCKING IDEA what they are doing.

Also, ounces of top shelf around here went for 50-100 bones before legalization.  Now it's $15 a gram :lol:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
    #25577430 - 10/29/18 09:14 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

One of the Sidewinder phenos...


This stuff is STANKY.


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