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MadGrower420
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*Retitled: A noobs mistake and maybe his comeback... All tips, advice and wisdom are welcomed! 1
#25564673 - 10/24/18 08:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spawned this tub(unmodified) on the 13th, using about a 1:4-5 spawn to sub ratio. Spawn is one, 1lb pre made rye bag, nocc'd up using a MS syringe(Variety of GT). Sub is coir, 2cups of verm and the grounds from the last pot of coffee. A slight spin on the bucketTEK(I know, I will never do this again).

So I made way to much sub and only used a minimal amount of it for this tub(32qt). Used some to do another small tub and tossed most of it in the yard.

All that out the way, tossed some sub in, dumped the spawn and mixed it well. Leveled and slightly tamped it making sure to pay attention to the sides.



Got it setup under a desk with a 6500k light on a 12/12 cycle, lid flipped(not misting). I'm cracking the lid a bit at night when I see condensation build up on the walls, letting it breath a bit.

Here we are 11 days in, I'm thinking I would be seeing more stronger, faster growth had I used more spawn. I guess that's pretty obvious
My question is, the TEK calls for only lid adjustments until first flush(no misting) It also calls for alot more bulk. I'm thinking my tub is a bit dry, due to my ratio and the time it's taking for this thing to fully colonize. Does this look like a dry tub, or does it look like I should just sit back, chill and let the shrooms show up when they're ready? I would love any and all opinions/eyes from more experienced growers. Thanks in advance, I sincerely appreciate it!
Here are the latest pics, tub was flipped around, for the pic. Left it that way, I noticed one side seemed to be doing better than the other.


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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25564694 - 10/24/18 08:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks to me like its doing mighty fine thus far. Look for beads of water on the surface of the substrate to indicate moisture content. Did you check for field capacity before spawning to bulk?
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: gizmodo]
#25564730 - 10/24/18 09:05 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks fine to me also. The only thing I would suggest is to put a layer of pure sub on top of the sub spawn mixture next time. This will give you more fruiting area (wont fruit from a grain) and less chance of contamination.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420] 1
#25564836 - 10/24/18 09:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good but a bit a dry in my opinion, I'd say give the tub a light misting.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: gizmodo]
#25564900 - 10/24/18 10:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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gizmodo said: Looks to me like its doing mighty fine thus far. Look for beads of water on the surface of the substrate to indicate moisture content. Did you check for field capacity before spawning to bulk?

Sounds good. Yep, sure did. I think I nailed field capacity on the batch of sub. I've got another one going, small one tubbed a few days ago with the same sub.
That one is looking mighty fine(will upload a pic here in a sec).

I do notice the smaller tub seems to have alot more moisture than the bigger tub(having to let it breathe more than the larger). This could be the size of the tub or the fact that I used about a 1:1 ratio and my spawn was a BRF cake,
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: Looks fine to me also. The only thing I would suggest is to put a layer of pure sub on top of the sub spawn mixture next time. This will give you more fruiting area (wont fruit from a grain) and less chance of contamination.
I did put a top layer on the small one.
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Timehole said: Looking good but a bit a dry in my opinion, I'd say give the tub a light misting.
Kinda scared to get it too wet before I see fruits coming in. I still need to get a decent sprayer, the one I have would prolly beat the mycelium. That's one of the things on my list to get for sure.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25564915 - 10/24/18 10:24 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It looks like mold in the bottom right corner on the last pic?? Where its not colonizing as well. Might be the pic but on pretty sure there is green/greyish spots of mold when I zoom in...
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Apc123]
#25564947 - 10/24/18 10:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Apc123 said: It looks like mold in the bottom right corner on the last pic?? Where its not colonizing as well. Might be the pic but on pretty sure there is green/greyish spots of mold when I zoom in...
Let's hope not, I think that is more or less dark spots from the grains. I guess time will tell.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25564964 - 10/24/18 10:44 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yiu never said that you properly pasteurised the substrate? I'm thinking since since you put in coffee grounds? What exactly was your variation of the bucket Tek?
Substrate looms a bit on the dry side if would hurt with a light misting. Sounds risky if you didn't do a proper pasteurisation..
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25565150 - 10/25/18 12:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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You might have issues with FAE, later on, just watch for tall skinny mushrooms. Also the longer colonization time is to be expected because of the law spawn to sub ratio, but as long as it beats any contaminates you'll be growing in no time.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: WhiteVeil]
#25565166 - 10/25/18 12:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see a lot of paper mugs with half a coffee in them forgotten about here and there at my workplace and they ALL have the green in them. Probably takes a day or two. Coffees that are left over the weekend have big colonies on the surface. As I stated before if he put spent coffee grounds without a proper pasteurisation then FAE will be the least of his problems.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Apc123]
#25565168 - 10/25/18 12:56 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Apc123 said: It looks like mold in the bottom right corner on the last pic?? Where its not colonizing as well. Might be the pic but on pretty sure there is green/greyish spots of mold when I zoom in...
I was thinking the same thing. Hard to tell tho.
Definitely dry. There is knotting but they need moisture. You don't need some fancy mister. Just a spray bottle.
I use these..

I actually prefer the larger one. I also have the regular handheld HDX sprayers too. They're less than $2 es.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25565526 - 10/25/18 06:16 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Yiu never said that you properly pasteurised the substrate? I'm thinking since since you put in coffee grounds? What exactly was your variation of the bucket Tek?
Substrate looms a bit on the dry side if would hurt with a light misting. Sounds risky if you didn't do a proper pasteurisation..
I followed BOD's easy AF bucket TEK. I did pasteurize the coir. The verm and old grounds(one pots worth) were added within the hour after pouring boiling water over the coir.
I've read of people using coffee. I was mixing it up and thought, I will add some verm for some water retention. After that, I started thinking, man I love coffee maybe my mushrooms will too... should've stopped at the verm. It is a very minimal amount that's in that tub tho.
Really hoping this tub pulls thru. After this, I will not deviate from proven TEK's at all until I can get consistent results.
If it is mold, I really hope the mycelium beats it out.
Might give it a mist tonight, just in the dryer area's. Just dont want a wet sub, I've read dryer is better than wetter. I definitely see some spots I would think need a bit of moisture, I'm still green and dont wanna fuck anything up(should've thought about that when adding the coffee...lol).
Thanks for everyone's opinion and advice!!
I invite all mush parents to give an opinion, I'm new and still learning. Very excited to start the journey myself!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25565794 - 10/25/18 08:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love it!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25566406 - 10/25/18 12:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you didn't pasterutize the coffee grounds, bad idea. Good luck to you hope you get something out of the grow.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25566457 - 10/25/18 12:48 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: So you didn't pasterutize the coffee grounds, bad idea. Good luck to you hope you get something out of the grow.
Incorrect, I did. I added 2 cups of verm, 2 cups of smoking hot water and the grounds very shortly after adding the boiling water to my cooler of coir.
Either way, no more coffee for my lil shroomies...lol
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25566583 - 10/25/18 01:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: So you didn't pasterutize the coffee grounds, bad idea. Good luck to you hope you get something out of the grow.
Incorrect, I did. I added 2 cups of verm, 2 cups of smoking hot water and the grounds very shortly after adding the boiling water to my cooler of coir.
Either way, no more coffee for my lil shroomies...lol
Incorrect! You did not! What you did is not PROPER PASTUERIZATION!!!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25566688 - 10/25/18 02:41 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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MadGrower420 said:
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Mateah said: So you didn't pasterutize the coffee grounds, bad idea. Good luck to you hope you get something out of the grow.
Incorrect, I did. I added 2 cups of verm, 2 cups of smoking hot water and the grounds very shortly after adding the boiling water to my cooler of coir.
Either way, no more coffee for my lil shroomies...lol
Incorrect! You did not! What you did is not PROPER PASTUERIZATION!!!
 Please explain to me where I went wrong with proper pasteurization. I figured since it all went in the cooler with the temps still high as hell from the boiling water I had just poured on the coir.
Am I wrong for thinking that?
Wilkapedia: Pasteurization or pasteurisation is a process in which certain packaged and non-packaged foods (such as milk and fruit juice) are treated with mild heat, usually less than 100 °C (212 °F), to eliminate pathogens and extend shelf life. The process is intended to sterilize foods by destroying or inactivating organisms that contribute to spoilage, including vegetative bacteria but not bacterial spores.[1][2]
Please enlighten me.
This is the temp of "smoking hot water" from my tap.

I didn't think this would bring temps way down in my cooler, was still hot as hell.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25566781 - 10/25/18 03:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what we're the exact temps of the substrate before and after the bucket? You must know this if you did a proper pasteurisation. This is not something you just wing by noting that "it was still hot as hell"
I'm just letting you know so you can make it better in the future. Pasteurisation is an exact science, its not what you did. But it's fine you will learn from this!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25566816 - 10/25/18 03:41 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: So what we're the exact temps of the substrate before and after the bucket? You must know this if you did a proper pasteurisation. This is not something you just wing by noting that "it was still hot as hell"
I'm just letting you know so you can make it better in the future. Pasteurisation is an exact science, its not what you did. But it's fine you will learn from this!
No idea...lol I see what you're saying.
I did not take temps before and after. I didn't think it was an exact science when it came to the substrate being used for my mushrooms.
I guess I need to do some more research on proper pasteurization for my sub. Right on, I will definitely learn from this. Come back stronger the next go round.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25567011 - 10/25/18 05:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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For just coir and verm you don't need to pasteurise you can just 'bucket' it but the coffee is the one that needs proper pasteurisation
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25567058 - 10/25/18 05:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whomsoever wrote that wiki enty, this is for you...

The goal is to PASTEURIZE the food. Not STERILIZE the food. Pasteurization and sterilization are 2 different procedures. In order to do well in this hobby, it's best that you learn the difference between the 2 procedures and how to properly carry them out.
The bucket tek takes the temp up PAST pasteurization temps.
To pasteurize your temps need to be at least 140f for an hour then cooled quickly. You don't want temps getting over 160f.
"Hot as hell" is better suited to describe the weather.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25567063 - 10/25/18 05:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Savage.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid] 1
#25567065 - 10/25/18 05:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I also cringed when I read the wiki description of 'pasteurisation'... jeez
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25567069 - 10/25/18 05:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Proper time is bout 2 hours at 170f For most stuff. Coco, and horse poo
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: XnMe]
#25567074 - 10/25/18 05:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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not coco coir, just hpoo
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: XnMe] 1
#25567084 - 10/25/18 05:39 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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XnMe said: Proper time is bout 2 hours at 170f For most stuff. Coco, and horse poo
wrong.
It only needs to be held at temp for an hour. 170f is on the top end of acceptable pasteurization.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25567131 - 10/25/18 05:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: gizmodo]
#25567312 - 10/25/18 06:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's the harm in 2? If it successfully heats the whole thing for the correct time.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: XnMe]
#25567325 - 10/25/18 07:00 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no harm in 2 hours but only 1 hour is needed.
That being said.
Doubling your prep time if you have multiple runs you need to make on the same equipment back to back...
might not be the best use of time.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25567340 - 10/25/18 07:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Proper procedure will carry over to your other endeavors as well. With other materials going for too long, too hot, or similar can cause chemical changes or over cooking of the substrate making it unusable in some cases or less than ideal for mushroom cultivation. In the case of grain it can burst or over hydrate which will make it easier for contaminates to penetrate the grain in your grows. Deviating from the norm is encouraged as you become more experienced as people are always looking for the next best thing, but when you are new sticking to the railroad while you learn is best practice.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25567363 - 10/25/18 07:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: For just coir and verm you don't need to pasteurise you can just 'bucket' it but the coffee is the one that needs proper pasteurisation 
 Gotcha! Imma stick with those two from here on out.
OK, I ended up misting my tub earlier this evening. It developed a couple holes in the mycelium, I figure it's cause my weak sauce spawn ratio. I've got the lid flipped and ajar to allow for more FAE. Let's see what comes of these 2 tubs.


Just finished another batch of sub, no coffee this time...lol Cooking it in the cooler overnight, got some cakes that Imma shred into shoeboxes tomorrow!!

Got 6 plates nocc'd up last night, Imma have fun with these little projects.

Keep me busy until I get where I wanna be on the plates. So happy to be working with agar. Very cool stuff!

Next up will be BIG batches of spawn jars!!

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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: gizmodo]
#25567395 - 10/25/18 07:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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LotKid said: Whomsoever wrote that wiki enty, this is for you...

The goal is to PASTEURIZE the food. Not STERILIZE the food. Pasteurization and sterilization are 2 different procedures. In order to do well in this hobby, it's best that you learn the difference between the 2 procedures and how to properly carry them out.
The bucket tek takes the temp up PAST pasteurization temps.
To pasteurize your temps need to be at least 140f for an hour then cooled quickly. You don't want temps getting over 160f.
"Hot as hell" is better suited to describe the weather.
Imma hold off on anything that I need to pasteurize. At least till I get some experience with the basics.
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gizmodo said: Proper procedure will carry over to your other endeavors as well. With other materials going for too long, too hot, or similar can cause chemical changes or over cooking of the substrate making it unusable in some cases or less than ideal for mushroom cultivation. In the case of grain it can burst or over hydrate which will make it easier for contaminates to penetrate the grain in your grows. Deviating from the norm is encouraged as you become more experienced as people are always looking for the next best thing, but when you are new sticking to the railroad while you learn is best practice.
Absolutely, sound advice. Thanks!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420] 1
#25567762 - 10/25/18 09:39 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news.... the bottom right of the top pic is looking worse. Don't be surprised if it doesn't make it.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25568006 - 10/25/18 11:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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LotKid said: Hate to be the bearer of bad news.... the bottom right of the top pic is looking worse. Don't be surprised if it doesn't make it.
Fingers crossed, I will definitely learn from this tub. So in a way, all is not lost if I have to toss it.
Just got done with the 2 shoeboxes, no coffee just coir and verm. I'm digging the ratio and decided to do a top layer on both tubs. The B+ MS syringe went to work on them cakes. I think these have a good shot.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25573754 - 10/28/18 11:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, I leaned somn... DON'T STRAY FROM THE TEK...

They went from looking OK, to looking like shit...

 I also learned that I did not correctly pasteurize my sub and I will never put coffee in it again...
Lesson learned, on to the next tubs!!

Does suck to have all that time locked up into somn that was doomed from the start, and I was the one to sabotage it.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25573783 - 10/28/18 11:29 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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At least You learned a valuable lesson so all is not wasted
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Mateja]
#25573856 - 10/28/18 12:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Oh yeah, forgot to mention. I dig the Kalash!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25585479 - 11/01/18 08:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: XnMe]
#25585667 - 11/01/18 10:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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XnMe said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20822448
A1 Tek ...
 thank you! Looks easy enough. Will have to give this a go when I move onto other subs.
Well, I'm back on the horse. Shoeboxes this time, at least till I get my agar game tight. Then I will get back to grains and big tubbing it.
Here's where I'm at... Just coir: 2 Fiji's, one is 2 1/2 cakes, the other is a 1lb grain bag that was a very slow colonizer. The bag didn't come close to looking like the first bag I had, although both seem to be doing well.

 Coir&verm: 2 B+'s, spawned the 26th. I think they look perty good for 6 days in. Both with 2 1/2 cakes. I ended up using a 1/4-1/2" top layer on all of them this go round.



Thanks for all the feedback, I've started to mist without hesitation when I believe my sub looks dry. I think these are keepers, time will tell...
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25585707 - 11/01/18 10:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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MadGrower420 said:
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XnMe said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20822448
A1 Tek ...
 thank you! Looks easy enough. Will have to give this a go when I move onto other subs.
Well, I'm back on the horse. Shoeboxes this time, at least till I get my agar game tight. Then I will get back to grains and big tubbing it.
Here's where I'm at... Just coir: 2 Fiji's, one is 2 1/2 cakes, the other is a 1lb grain bag that was a very slow colonizer. The bag didn't come close to looking like the first bag I had, although both seem to be doing well.

 Coir&verm: 2 B+'s, spawned the 26th. I think they look perty good for 6 days in. Both with 2 1/2 cakes. I ended up using a 1/4-1/2" top layer on all of them this go round.



Thanks for all the feedback, I've started to mist without hesitation when I believe my sub looks dry. I think these are keepers, time will tell...
Also spawned my 2 shoeboxes with B+ on the 26th, huh how bout that milo grain to pure coir though
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Litchlynn]
#25586156 - 11/02/18 07:16 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also spawned my 2 shoeboxes with B on the 26th, huh how bout that milo grain to pure coir though

Very cool, good luck on your shoeboxes!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25586872 - 11/02/18 01:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Litchlynn said:
Also spawned my 2 shoeboxes with B on the 26th, huh how bout that milo grain to pure coir though

Very cool, good luck on your shoeboxes! 
You too
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Litchlynn]
#25591102 - 11/04/18 08:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Success! My shoeboxes are looking great. Both of the B+ MS seem to be doing perty good. Getn a hell of a pin set, for my second attempt. I Really dont count the cake I got going. Only pulled about 35g wet off of it so far(made tea).

Man was I excited the other night when I went to check on em and seen em pinning up!
I had em bagged, so I took the bags off and put the lids back on. I did that for about a day or so to lower the FAE. Now I'm back to having them bagged. I was reading somewhere that lower FAE is recommended for pinset and a higher FAE is recommended for the growth of the fruit to maturity. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
Anyway, on to the pics!! Tub A



Tub B




I'm very excited to see all these pins. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and advice as well as taking me to school a bit...lol
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25591214 - 11/04/18 09:44 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good! Your tubs are about a day ahead of mine, even though they were spawned 6 days after mine!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: CzM8]
#25591511 - 11/04/18 11:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome thanks!! That's definitely great to hear!
Doing my best to keep em happy. Misting em when needed while trying to avoid over misting my tubs, which is surprisingly hard to do...lol
I felt like I was on the right track this time, harvest time will tell 
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25591786 - 11/04/18 02:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you'll find that you can easily love them to death. Sometimes less is more.
Looking good so far.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: LotKid]
#25591807 - 11/04/18 02:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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LotKid said: I think you'll find that you can easily love them to death. Sometimes less is more.
Looking good so far. 
This is very true. Even with PF jars the less you are hovering over the top of them breathing over them, the better.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: HuckleBerrySlim]
#25591899 - 11/04/18 03:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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LotKid said: I think you'll find that you can easily love them to death. Sometimes less is more.
Looking good so far. 
Thanks! Yes I can see it already. I keep getting the feeling, more water=more/ bigger fruits...lol
I fight the urge and only mist when the sub looks a lighter color brown almost with a reddish tint. I do find the sides seem to have plenty moisture so I'm trying to hit the middle of the tub more than anything. I try and give it at least 24hrs between misting(if needed).
Definitely getting some side pins, I think one tub more than the other. May have been a fluffier mix, not sure? Not a big deal, seeing as my top layer seems to be a well suited environment for growth.
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LotKid said: I think you'll find that you can easily love them to death. Sometimes less is more.
Looking good so far. 
This is very true. Even with PF jars the less you are hovering over the top of them breathing over them, the better.
So hard not to spend alot time hovering over em tho.
It has become one of my favorite things to do, check out my shrooms and myc growth on plates...lol
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25592549 - 11/04/18 08:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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MadGrower420 said: Success! My shoeboxes are looking great. Both of the B+ MS seem to be doing perty good. Getn a hell of a pin set, for my second attempt. I Really dont count the cake I got going. Only pulled about 35g wet off of it so far(made tea).

Man was I excited the other night when I went to check on em and seen em pinning up!
I had em bagged, so I took the bags off and put the lids back on. I did that for about a day or so to lower the FAE. Now I'm back to having them bagged. I was reading somewhere that lower FAE is recommended for pinset and a higher FAE is recommended for the growth of the fruit to maturity. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
Anyway, on to the pics!! Tub A



Tub B




I'm very excited to see all these pins. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and advice as well as taking me to school a bit...lol
Beautiful lil guys, gj! Mine is almost completely white on top and hasn't produced pins yet hoping for them soon~
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Litchlynn]
#25592618 - 11/04/18 09:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beautiful lil guys, gj! Mine is almost completely white on top and hasn't produced pins yet hoping for them soon~
Thanks! I'm sure you will get em in soon
Lemme ask ya, how are you working your lids at the moment? I've got 2 more minitubs that I just bagged. They were getn real close, shit one was pinning! I've had them lid snapped up until earlier this evening.
I do have the holes cut smaller in those bags, at least until I get a solid pinset. Then I will pull the cuts open a bit to allow for more FAE. I'm just hoping what I'm doing continues to work like it has so far.
Here are the tubs I just bagged. First one is rye berries, second tub is 2.5 cakes both a Fiji variety.

 I'm giving these lil guys good vibes in hope they take good care of me!
Tubs lookn good, solid pinset for a noob. I'm very pleased.



Next one.



I feel good about these!

Thanks everyone for joining me on my journey. The TEK's, tips and advice that I have gotten here at the Shroomery have and continue to be amazing!
I'm extremely grateful for all who've been more than willing to take the time to help us noobs along the path! Thanks!
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25592637 - 11/04/18 09:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dubtub- as in, i just place another shoebox upside down and on top with a binder clip on each end. i enjoy how easy it is to access and to be able to actually monitor my fruits.
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: Litchlynn]
#25594178 - 11/05/18 03:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Litchlynn said: I dubtub- as in, i just place another shoebox upside down and on top with a binder clip on each end. i enjoy how easy it is to access and to be able to actually monitor my fruits.
Nice! I thought about doing it that way. I do like the fact of being able to check em out without disturbing em. I have limited space and the bag is working out perfectly so far.
I get to take lil peeks thru the holes in my bag...lol
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Re: 11 days in... Would love some feedback on my first tub. [Re: MadGrower420]
#25594849 - 11/05/18 08:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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