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Do these cakes look healthy to you?
    #25559130 - 10/22/18 09:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I've finally got my first pin (ever) tonight, but I'm a little concerned at how the cakes look.


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25559137 - 10/22/18 09:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

They look a little dry to me...

I think shotguns are not the way to go, and Im not alone in this.  That blueing makes me think they might be drying out.


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25559157 - 10/22/18 09:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Bruising on it means not enough moisture and the cakes themselves look pretty dry.


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Litchlynn]
    #25559172 - 10/22/18 09:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

EDIT

I got a pin growing on one of them... my first pin ever... but they've been in the SGFC for a little over a week now. 

Do I dunk them again or just spray them down more often?

Edited by PrimeNumber (10/22/18 09:33 PM)

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25559300 - 10/22/18 10:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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They look a little dry to me...

I think shotguns are not the way to go, and Im not alone in this.  That blueing makes me think they might be drying out.



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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25559366 - 10/22/18 11:02 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I've finally got my first pin (ever) tonight, but I'm a little concerned at how the cakes look.





Even the perlite looks dry :crazy: do you normally mist the perlite and feel if it has dryed out or not?

This is something you will need to do depending on how dry house you live in. But don't worry too much about . Feel the perlite surface with your hand to see if it's very moist or mostly dried out. If it's on the dry side then remove the cakes and spray it down real good. Check the moisture again the next day and the next day for a few days. :goodluck:

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25559367 - 10/22/18 11:02 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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PrimeNumber said:
EDIT

I got a pin growing on one of them... my first pin ever... but they've been in the SGFC for a little over a week now. 

Do I dunk them again or just spray them down more often?




The room it's in might be too dry or giving it too much ventilation causing the water on the sides to dry out, try placing somewhere it can retain the moisture on the walls more and mist it when there is no visible moisture


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Litchlynn]
    #25559625 - 10/23/18 04:01 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

SGFC are high maintenance if you've got a drafty room. Dunk n roll helps pinning. Aside from that everything that they said ^


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Noisecontrol]
    #25560770 - 10/23/18 04:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Alright, I hosed down the perlite.

Should I dunk the cakes again?  Is that okay even if one of them has a pin on it?

Maybe this is the last time I try to do the standard PF Tek.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25560779 - 10/23/18 04:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Just keep em glistening with proper misting. Dunk after first flush.


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25560843 - 10/23/18 04:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you, sir.

It's that first flush I'm worried about.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25560919 - 10/23/18 05:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Should have let em consolidate longer is my bet. A week consolidation isn’t the ideal length of time, more of the bare minimum. That way it does the consolidation in the jar where it won’t dry out, and can do the pinning in fruiting where it can take advantage of the evaporation occurring. Evaporation is an important pinning trigger. 2 weeks is much more ideal.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25560960 - 10/23/18 05:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Should have let em consolidate longer is my bet. A week consolidation isn’t the ideal length of time, more of the bare minimum. That way it does the consolidation in the jar where it won’t dry out, and can do the pinning in fruiting where it can take advantage of the evaporation occurring. Evaporation is an important pinning trigger. 2 weeks is much more ideal.



You're saying it's better after full colonization to let them sit for two weeks opposed to one? I'm in the process of getting the cakes. So just wanna take in this information while I can get it. The more i know before,the better.


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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #25560963 - 10/23/18 05:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yep two weeks is better than one.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25561612 - 10/23/18 09:05 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Yep two weeks is better than one.




Thanks to everybody, especially the trusted cultivators.

I definitely see the logic in what Pastywhyte said--but that's the first time I've ever encountered someone recommending 2 weeks of consolidation. 

My guess is the cakes in the picture were allowed to consolidate for 10 days.  They spent the week after that in the kitchen under 5k light with indirect sunlight, now they're in the bathroom with some direct sunlight.  I did NOT roll them in vermiculite after the dunk so that I could see possible contamination easier. 

I've started spritzing the cakes whenever they don't appear shiny and wet, which is often.  Either I've got a really dry apartment, the cakes are very thirsty, or both.

I've got one pin--my first pin--after nearly two weeks in the SGFC.  I am PRAYING for that little bastard lol.



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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25567009 - 10/25/18 05:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

One of the cakes is getting especially snowy-white on bottom.

Still normal?  Healthy?



Also, it's been a couple days, and that one pin I had doesn't seem to be growing very much, I think he's retarded.

I didn't mention it before but I tried the bleach tek on three other cakes I haven't shown you from the same inoculation batch.  I think it killed them.

Any words of wisdom you have would be appreciated; my expectations are now extremely low for this batch, and I feel like this is just one more thing in life that I'm failing at.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25567017 - 10/25/18 05:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: PrimeNumber]
    #25567192 - 10/25/18 06:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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One of the cakes is getting especially snowy-white on bottom.

Still normal?  Healthy?



Also, it's been a couple days, and that one pin I had doesn't seem to be growing very much, I think he's retarded.

I didn't mention it before but I tried the bleach tek on three other cakes I haven't shown you from the same inoculation batch.  I think it killed them.

Any words of wisdom you have would be appreciated; my expectations are now extremely low for this batch, and I feel like this is just one more thing in life that I'm failing at.




You have two different species in there. I suspect the snowy white is trich.

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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25567207 - 10/25/18 06:14 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I suspect the snowy white is trich.



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Re: Do these cakes look healthy to you? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25567398 - 10/25/18 07:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:  I suspect the snowy white is trich.




I suppose the thing to do is throw everything out, bleach everything, and start over, right?

I dunno guys.  I've lost faith in the PF Tek.  Or maybe my apartment is just filled with contaminants.  I thought fully colonized cakes were supposed to be contamination resistant.

I'm not giving up yet.  But I am NOT going to try to do the same thing again expecting different results.  I am PISSED--this was my 3rd attempt at cakes with nothing to show for it.

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