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2nd attempt for a noob grower
#25554260 - 10/20/18 11:42 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello everyone this is my second try to grow me some fat ass cubes my first grow wasn't even close to good but it was MS witch is were I'm pretty sure I went wrong this time I grew it out out on agar taking several xfers my jars are almost colonized 100%. I can't to put them in my monotubs I'm going to do Damon's 50/50 the only thing different I will do is I'm not going to put a top layer I'm going to mix it all together evenly any questions I'd be eager to answer is
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25554280 - 10/20/18 11:56 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen plenty of people use only hydrated coir with great results.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
#25554284 - 10/21/18 12:00 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use the same brand coco coir and verm for my grows it works great I'm excited to see ur results. Great work so far! I'm sure they will be awesome!
Btw small tip I put my tubs straight into fruiting conditions the same day that I spawn it.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Apc123]
#25554301 - 10/21/18 12:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really I didn't know you could that I have 3 tubs to go I'm gonna let the tub colo. For 7 to 14 days before I try something new I'm pretty much following a personal friends / Mycologist I've known for a while who got me into this and brought me to the website so I'm kind of just going step by step off what I know has worked for him for years and years
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25554337 - 10/21/18 12:46 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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psycho_myco said: Really I didn't know you could that I have 3 tubs to go I'm gonna let the tub colo. For 7 to 14 days before I try something new I'm pretty much following a personal friends / Mycologist I've known for a while who got me into this and brought me to the website so I'm kind of just going step by step off what I know has worked for him for years and years
Yea, I get it. That has been the way for sometime now but it's on its way out the door if u read around here. Ppl have found its good to have light for the whole process. Putting it into fruiting conditions right away can make it colonizes faster and get pins sooner. But totally do what u are comfortable with.
P.s. I give the same tip to every new grower - don't over mist! I'd say most of us have done it, I know I have! Give the water time to evaporate. We are not "watering" are mushrooms. Which is what I once thought of it as. Read up on dialing in mono tubs. I think this thread, is a good read.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=17332777&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=
I prefer Micropore tape myself. When I use micropore I start with two overlapping pieces on each bottom hole for gas exchange (my holes are wider then the micropore tape so I end up using four pieces - 2 going up and down and 2 going side to side (I hope this doesn't confuse u)) then I do one layer for the top holes (by the handles) for air exchange. This normally works great. If u end up needing more air flow just remove one of the layers of Micropore tape from the gas exchange holes. Good luck and keep us updated I'm excited to see ur grow! U seem to be doing everything right for a first timer so far! Congrats
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Apc123]
#25554374 - 10/21/18 01:28 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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psycho_myco said: Really I didn't know you could that I have 3 tubs to go I'm gonna let the tub colo. For 7 to 14 days before I try something new I'm pretty much following a personal friends / Mycologist I've known for a while who got me into this and brought me to the website so I'm kind of just going step by step off what I know has worked for him for years and years
Yea, I get it. That has been the way for sometime now but it's on its way out the door if u read around here. Ppl have found its good to have light for the whole process. Putting it into fruiting conditions right away can make it colonizes faster and get pins sooner. But totally do what u are comfortable with.
P.s. I give the same tip to every new grower - don't over mist! I'd say most of us have done it, I know I have! Give the water time to evaporate. We are not "watering" are mushrooms. Which is what I once thought of it as. Read up on dialing in mono tubs. I think this thread, is a good read.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=17332777&fpart=1&PHPSESSID=
I prefer Micropore tape myself. When I use micropore I start with two overlapping pieces on each bottom hole for gas exchange (my holes are wider then the micropore tape so I end up using four pieces - 2 going up and down and 2 going side to side (I hope this doesn't confuse u)) then I do one layer for the top holes (by the handles) for air exchange. This normally works great. If u end up needing more air flow just remove one of the layers of Micropore tape from the gas exchange holes. Good luck and keep us updated I'm excited to see ur grow! U seem to be doing everything right for a first timer so far! Congrats
Yeah when I get the hang of it all I'll definitely have to give it a shot. I probably won't Mist it all the first flush probably just fan it a little bit I'll wait for the second maybe even third flush if it makes it to the Third to mist
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25554412 - 10/21/18 02:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you mix the spawn and the sub all together you should have a top layer of just the sub 1/8 to 1/4 inch deep. You will get more fruiting area and a better pin set. Also less chance of contamination.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Mateja]
#25554567 - 10/21/18 05:38 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hes sorta right just said it wierd. People feel a top layer covers exposed grain making contamination less of a risk. A top layer also adds moisture yo the surface for better fruit production.
If u want to do this, just leave some coir behind when u spawn. Then after its mixed well and leveled out u can add a 1/4" layer of coir on top.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25554577 - 10/21/18 05:49 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive been adding a 1/2" casing layer at spawn. Can anyone differentiate casing at spawn vs casing at full colonization?
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Cody2C]
#25554584 - 10/21/18 05:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well a top layer isnt a casing. Its sorta is but not really.
And people get great results casing at spawning or waiting till its colonized first. Its just personal preferance really.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25554913 - 10/21/18 08:55 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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My buddy said he always just mixes it all and I've seen some beast ass results that way and yes the top layer is different than a casing layer
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25555216 - 10/21/18 11:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alright. Ill try both.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Cody2C]
#25558732 - 10/22/18 06:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: tripdawg420]
#25558760 - 10/22/18 07:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's my dawg
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25577500 - 10/29/18 09:40 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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almost ready to fruit
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25577915 - 10/30/18 03:15 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's ready papi
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25579186 - 10/30/18 04:40 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's only been a week I was gonna give her a hole 10 days to be safe
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25580595 - 10/31/18 03:26 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25581258 - 10/31/18 10:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
ima give em hella fae the hole time that's how you get fat flushes. What it's your usual fanning routine like how many times a day
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25583313 - 11/01/18 03:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I never fan.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25583720 - 11/01/18 09:34 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know monotubs are set and forget and you will still get good results but they're not comparing to the results you'll get whenever you let them get enough Fae not speaking from my experience but from first hand seeing somebody else do it a lot but I just put one of 3 into fruit take a look.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25585984 - 11/02/18 03:11 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Learn punctuation. Go to school kids
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25586409 - 11/02/18 09:49 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
ima give em hella fae the hole time that's how you get fat flushes. What it's your usual fanning routine like how many times a day
More spawn = More mush. Anything more than 5qts doesn't show much difference though. If you want a fat flush dump at least 2qts spawn to a mini mono and at least 5qt to a standard mono
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25587605 - 11/02/18 06:56 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lmao
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
#25587610 - 11/02/18 06:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
ima give em hella fae the hole time that's how you get fat flushes. What it's your usual fanning routine like how many times a day
More spawn = More mush. Anything more than 5qts doesn't show much difference though. If you want a fat flush dump at least 2qts spawn to a mini mono and at least 5qt to a standard mono
I might try that soon not trying to shut that down I'm just sticking to the plan I had
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25587613 - 11/02/18 07:00 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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First hater lol what u mad for because I won't take your advice
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25587888 - 11/02/18 09:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
ima give em hella fae the hole time that's how you get fat flushes. What it's your usual fanning routine like how many times a day
More spawn = More mush. Anything more than 5qts doesn't show much difference though. If you want a fat flush dump at least 2qts spawn to a mini mono and at least 5qt to a standard mono
I might try that soon not trying to shut that down I'm just sticking to the plan I had
If it's a properly set up monotub, fanning is obsolete. It's just set and forget until the first flush. All flushes after require you to mist to maintain optimal surface conditions
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
#25587900 - 11/02/18 09:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: That's fine man however u wanna do it. When u do fruit, just remember cubes like a lower fresh air exchange for pin formation and a higher amount of fae for maturing.
I see u have holes taped. Stuff ur poly or whatever u use tight at first. And after pins fill in loosen the top holes a bit.
ima give em hella fae the hole time that's how you get fat flushes. What it's your usual fanning routine like how many times a day
More spawn = More mush. Anything more than 5qts doesn't show much difference though. If you want a fat flush dump at least 2qts spawn to a mini mono and at least 5qt to a standard mono
I might try that soon not trying to shut that down I'm just sticking to the plan I had
If it's a properly set up monotub, fanning is obsolete. It's just set and forget until the first flush. All flushes after require you to mist to maintain optimal surface conditions
I'll mist the second flush yes, but I do disagree about not needing to fan I feel like you do to get better results but I could be wrong. but i feel like You want to copy nature with in nature there is a lot of strong winds
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25587930 - 11/02/18 09:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Fanning isn't FAE unless you fan a few times an hour. Fanning is pointless
It's a tub with at least 4 relatively huge holes in it. Air cycles through it with nothing but ease, hence covering said holes until the air is limited just enough.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
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bodhisatta said: Fanning isn't FAE unless you fan a few times an hour. Fanning is pointless
It's a tub with at least 4 relatively huge holes in it. Air cycles through it with nothing but ease, hence covering said holes until the air is limited just enough.
Ok you win your way is better, but I'm still doing it my way. T.C. doesn't mean 100% correct. And yes there is big holes but the room has no air flow, it's pretty much a still air room, so if I don't fan it manually how will it get fresh air.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25587989 - 11/02/18 10:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Fanning isn't FAE unless you fan a few times an hour. Fanning is pointless
It's a tub with at least 4 relatively huge holes in it. Air cycles through it with nothing but ease, hence covering said holes until the air is limited just enough.
Ok you win your way is better, but I'm still doing it my way. T.C. doesn't mean 100% correct. And yes there is big holes but the room has no air flow, it's pretty much a still air room, so if I don't fan it manually how will it get fresh air.
It's not win or lose. It's me and others trying to give you advice we gained from our experience because we want to see you do the best you can. You're welcome to try your own things, it's encouraged really; but with the expectation that you understand others won't be able to help you because we don't have experience with a technique or recipe you may have used. You're far more likely to get help and success when you use a "standardized"/"tested and proven reliable" tek.
Put a fan in the room and point it away from the tub.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
#25588569 - 11/03/18 08:51 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get what you're saying and I appreciate you guys wanting to help I do. But I was mainly made this just to show what I was doing more than to ask for help. I feel like I'm coming off as rude but I'm not trying to. I have a real life friend that's been doing this method way longer than me so if I have any questions I usually ask him.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: DreamReality]
#25588573 - 11/03/18 08:53 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: tripdawg420]
#25588601 - 11/03/18 09:15 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tippdawg is my TC I haven't seen any of you get 10 oz of the first flush
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: tripdawg420]
#25597475 - 11/06/18 10:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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knots everywhere, should be pinning any day now
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25597697 - 11/07/18 02:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Learn punctuation. Go to school kids
First hater lol what u mad for because I won't take your advice
Lol I'm not mad at all. Trust I set don't care if u took my advice or not. I was just commenting on the run on sentences.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25597930 - 11/07/18 07:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Learn punctuation. Go to school kids
First hater lol what u mad for because I won't take your advice
Lol I'm not mad at all. Trust I set don't care if u took my advice or not. I was just commenting on the run on sentences.
why would you comment on somebody's flaws if you arn't mad. And my grammar is horrible but mushrooms are going to look amazing ,so if you're going to be here with me noob boy get used to it , or you could mind your own business. do you even have any pics,have you ever even grown let's see some pics. Pics or tits. Show me why I should listen
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25611306 - 11/13/18 07:25 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25613478 - 11/14/18 02:46 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nube424 said: Learn punctuation. Go to school kids
First hater lol what u mad for because I won't take your advice
Lol I'm not mad at all. Trust I set don't care if u took my advice or not. I was just commenting on the run on sentences.
why would you comment on somebody's flaws if you arn't mad. And my grammar is horrible but mushrooms are going to look amazing ,so if you're going to be here with me noob boy get used to it , or you could mind your own business. do you even have any pics,have you ever even grown let's see some pics. Pics or tits. Show me why I should listen 
Lol. Do u man. I have plenty of grows undsr my belt. Check my ratings.
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25613486 - 11/14/18 02:55 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take the advice dude, no hate man we want you to succeed! Im mean every fucker on here wants to grow shrooms, its all love man and love means telling u the truth...
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: nube424]
#25613944 - 11/14/18 10:04 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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First hater lol what u mad for because I won't take your advice
Lol I'm not mad at all. Trust I set don't care if u took my advice or not. I was just commenting on the run on sentences.
why would you comment on somebody's flaws if you arn't mad. And my grammar is horrible but mushrooms are going to look amazing ,so if you're going to be here with me noob boy get used to it , or you could mind your own business. do you even have any pics,have you ever even grown let's see some pics. Pics or tits. Show me why I should listen 
Lol. Do u man. I have plenty of grows undsr my belt. Check my ratings.
I do what, I didn't say I do anything? And show us some results then if you got plenty under your belt. I want to see what your yields look like. Anybody can say some shit, now show me what you can do, or just keep typing at me it up to you entirely
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: Nimph]
#25613963 - 11/14/18 10:13 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nimph said: Take the advice dude, no hate man we want you to succeed! Im mean every fucker on here wants to grow shrooms, its all love man and love means telling u the truth...
I get that and I appreciate the help everybody's trying to give me, but like I said in the previous post I have a teacher and he has several hundred grows under his belt, so it's like listen to these people who have barely been registered on here for a year, if they even have been for that long ,or listen to a guy I know that has the answer to every question. I'm more just came on here to show off my first grow. About to post an update(pics) here in a min
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25614147 - 11/14/18 11:29 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The truth is the truth, no matter if someone with 1 post says it, or someone's been growing forever. In any case, every experiment is an experiment, and I'm curious about how much you end up pulling out! Good luck!
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: YuShroom]
#25614833 - 11/14/18 04:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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YuShroom said: The truth is the truth, no matter if someone with 1 post says it, or someone's been growing forever. In any case, every experiment is an experiment, and I'm curious about how much you end up pulling out! Good luck!
I'll definitely be posting my results but I only used 3 quarts of Spawn per tub so my yeild will be limited
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25620308 - 11/17/18 07:02 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: 2nd attempt for a noob grower [Re: psycho_myco]
#25625332 - 11/19/18 01:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Tomorrow I harvest
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