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themushroomdon
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PE NOT PINNING (IT PINNED)
#25545954 - 10/17/18 11:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gain: RYE BERRY
Substrate: Pre-pasteurized bulk substrate; six main ingredients including an organic compost, dehydrated horse manure, exotic zoo manure, organic coconut coir, vermiculite, and gypsum
Casing : NONE
Hello I’m seeking help from a fellow mycologist! I’m trying too make this Penis Envy pin but I’m unsure why it hasn't begun too pin yet. I searched this whole site looking for answers but no luck so I made an account just too find some sort of solution.
I moved my colonized rye berries into the substrate 2.5 weeks ago and the substrate was fully colonized after 7 days. Keep in mind I had too thaw the substrate from the freezer (which was in a bag with air filter) so it might have gained extra moister. About 4 days ago I noticed there was a lot of pooling of water on the substrate/mycelium and tons of water vapor under my monotub lid. I patted it down lightly with some paper towels about 4 days ago and have been fanning and misting ever since. It's fully colonized and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or could have done better too speed this process up. We're approaching 3 weeks and still no luck on even a single pin.
Should I use wax paper too trigger pinning along with fan and mist?
Any wise advice from experienced mycologist?

Also I think these rye berries I did grain too grain on are contaminated can anyone confirm my thoughts before I toss them?
Edited by themushroomdon (11/02/18 01:32 AM)
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VroomerMcZoomers
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It looks pretty good, I think I see even some primordia in there. You'll be alright.
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elasticaltiger
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Multispore PE can take long to pin.
Clone the first good fruit you get and then you'll have a higher chance on your next grow for faster fruiting genetics. Your substrate looks like it will fruit or blob within the next week.
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themushroomdon
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Clone the first decent sized fruit gotcha. Should I wait for them too all finish growing or should I pick it immediately and then clone it.
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themushroomdon
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Thanks for that, I thought I fucked up. It's my first grow, 3 months in total from syringe too this! PE takes such a long!
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themushroomdon
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I ordered everything too start my agar transfers so I can create a monoculture for better genetics. These wait times are cancerous there’s no way it’s been 3 weeks already since I began this monotub and there’s absolutely no pinning, I must be doing something wrong. I applied wax paper too help promote pinning and I stopped misting because the mycelium is shiny and covered with water droplets. I’m still fanning. Wtf penis envy.
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themushroomdon
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Should I add a casing?
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superbarnie
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Quote:
themushroomdon said: Should I add a casing?
No its too late it would be pointless. PE just takes fucking forever to pin. If u are unluckly it might be trich out before the first flush but it shouldnt do that as long as you arent too bacterial. Just let it do its thing.
Often times you'll get a first flush of blobs instead of pins.
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themushroomdon
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Why is it too late? What is trich out? This is all new too me. At what point should I be adding a casing if now is too late?
Edited by themushroomdon (10/23/18 12:19 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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Quote:
themushroomdon said: Why is it too late? What is trich out? This is all new too me. At what point should I be adding a casing if now is too late?
It's too late because your mycelium is probably in the midst of fruiting.
Have you ever had a jerk off session where it just took you a really long time to cum? Would it have helped you get off faster if suddenly your mom walked in the room to tell you the proper way to get off? Fuck no, you were doing just fine jerking off on your own and now you gotta tell your mom to fuck off and get your mind back in the game because that shit really startled you.
That's what happens when you suddenly change the conditions on the mycelium at the moment of pinning.
I think you've already gone this far, you should keep conditions as is and learn from this experience. Case your next tub right at full colonization.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
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Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.
"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT
Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)
Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen
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themushroomdon
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I think this is contaminated. This is showing no growth what so ever. 3 weeks with no progress or pinning is dumb.
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themushroomdon
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I tried too put a paper towel down too grab all the droplets of water and now some portions of the mycelium are bruised blue fucking great.
This is frustrating because “just be patient” doesn’t seem like the answer here. Theres something i’m doing wrong and I can’t figure it out. I almost want too toss this and start over.
Edited by themushroomdon (10/23/18 04:03 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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I thougnt i told you i had a tub of pe that took over 3 weeks to pin. Just start a new project.
How thick is your substrate. It's not a sure thing but i feel like i get more blobs and slower pinsets when the substrate is really thick.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it
Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.
"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT
Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)
Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen
Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson
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themushroomdon
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HOLY SHIT PINS!!! JUST WHEN I HAD ALMOST GIVEN UP!
THANK YOU JESUS
Substrate is 2.5inches

Edited by themushroomdon (10/23/18 05:45 AM)
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Lol 3 weeks is normal for pe. Keep that in mind if you grow it again. Any other strains like GT, and 3 weeks is pushing things, but still it is within a reasonable timespan. I've had non pe subs push fruits out after 28+ days. My motto is, if it isn't moldy, keep it going. They fruit when they're ready.
Also gratz. Make sure the surface is glistening with moisture but no pooling water, and those pins will be very happy.
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themushroomdon
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Lmao I got 23 more quart jars that I recently inoculated so I’m definetly doing PE again. So I guess I really do have too be more patient. 28days holy shit. Oh wow I thought glistening was bad. So I ended up bruising them trying too dry them with paper towels since it had droplets. Is droplets considered pooling? Or is it literally a puddle of water that I have too watch out for? Is there anyway I can undo that bruising I just caused?
Edited by themushroomdon (10/23/18 06:28 AM)
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23461134
Yeah literally puddles of water is what you're avoiding. They'll turn yellow with metabolites. You want droplets across the surface, or have it shimmering if you shine a light on it.
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themushroomdon
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I just read that whole article this whole time I thought it was too moist now it’s bruising blue in a lot of spots because it’s too dry. Thank you so much for posting that and also including pics <3 of the water droplets. I just sprayed my mono!
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themushroomdon
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If it’s bruised how do I unbruise it?
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You can't unbruise it. It will fruit regardless as long as you haven't dried the thing out too much! The surface of my B+ bruised blue extensively before even though it was sprayed 3X daily and I still got an excellent flush. I'd obviously given too much FAE.
You haven't sprayed it for an entire month?! I'll be surprised if there's much water in there at all to support proper mushroom growth. Make sure you're spraying at least three times a day. Let the water evaporate off before spraying it again.
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Edited by MrCraggles (10/24/18 12:51 AM)
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