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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: Mateja]
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Mateah said:
So many growers have already seen their cakes bounce back FAST after being placed in the Humidity Chamber. It's not too late.

Your cakes get too much FAE no doubt about it. Blue cakes = too much FAE. Hope it works out for you, and link in my sig if you want to try other things with BRF cakes.




Solid man thanks for the advise, ima post up what changes ive made now and see if i can get this back on track!

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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Okay so i hope ive taken in all the awesome advise given correctly..

ive blocked up all the holes to turn this into the best version i could right now of a unmodified tub. i will buy another one but for now i hope this is okay. going to stick to fanning when i can and have removed the fan.

If i understand correctly my cakes arent getting enough water when im misting right? so ill be misting alot more to hopfully get the moisture into them more? the other 4 have been in for 5 days now which i dunked before putting them in (obviously) so if i keep the mist up to them as well hopfully they dont have this issue.
Should i be making sure the verm on top is wet always to help this?

Ive flipped over the two that i first posted and like i said keeping the water up to them as much as possible to give those babies the best chance at their short life they can.

Am i getting it? haha  i really appreciate all of the feedback guys, yous are legends.
Even you DreamReality you loose unit! ive learned not to jump the gun on feedback lol



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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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I would take that and turn it into a SGFC man. Put the 1/4" holes in a 2x2" grid pattern on all six sides.
Get that hose out of there, can't pump in FAE

Just mist them when they're dry


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Edited by mushpunx (10/18/18 05:48 AM)

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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No electricity needed EVER to have a functional fruiting chamber.

Almost ALL of FC'S I've seen that run on electricity are doomed to fail. It's simply cause they were designed by someone who clearly doesn't understand what mushrooms want and need. I know this cause I was one of those people when I first started out. My SGFC also ran on electricity for a little while...

Now.. This is my advice to you: Stop fanning (nobody does that anymore...) and try to find a Tek that has worked for many and follow that Tek don't change it.

When you made your BRF cakes, did you put mustard instead of rice flower? Did you do 1:3:5? Ration instead of 2:1:1:? If you didn't then why didn't you? Is it cause you knew that it maybe wouldn't work as good if you made your own changes to it? You see my point?


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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: Mateja]
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Mateah said:
When you made your BRF cakes, did you put mustard instead of rice flower? Did you do 1:3:5? Ration instead of 2:1:1:? If you didn't then why didn't you? Is it cause you knew that it maybe wouldn't work as good if you made your own changes to it? You see my point?



nah i didnt use mustard? is that a thing people do? seems like a weird question haha

The first intruction to PF Tek i read and ended up followed came from here
---> https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/shrooms/grow-psilocybin-mushrooms/#instructions

i followed it to the t apart from the chamber, i got lazy basically which is why the holes ended up where and how they were. The reason i got that cup of water with the stone is becuase i saw someone else do it on youtube i think to help increase humidity as i work between 10 and 12 hours per day so with the Teks saying fanning and spraying betwen 4-6 times a day i didnt think i would be able to do that so i though that might help solve the problem with that if you get me...

the pinnings in that last photo have probably doubled in size over night again :thumbup:

also ive flipped those two lids over, for some reason i had them upside down.. how embarrassing

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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Idk man.. This is why I keep two useful links in my sig :shrug: for growers like yourself :goodluck:


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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: Mateja]
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yeah bro i know what your saying haha, i checked your links out last night.. and already with the humidity tub is working way better than the shit i had setup before. i dont have enough verm atm to use instead of perlite so i just resoaked my perlite last night but im going to start another batch over the weekend so ill follow your tek, im sure it will be more simple from what i read..

although my humidity is down to 45% does this matter? is there a way to boost it up without misting too much? as i still have moisture all in the tub and on the lids

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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You can get that hygrometer right out of there man. Useless for our purposes. The only humidity the matters is right at substrate level and it can't measure that


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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: mushpunx]
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mushpunx said:
You can get that hygrometer right out of there man. Useless for our purposes. The only humidity the matters is right at substrate level and it can't measure that




Thanks for that bro, will do. I know the temp range is correct anyway so no need to keep an eye on that anyway.

Would you guys like an up date photo in a few days? these bad boys are bangin now. unsure if they have contam at the base now, seems a little fluffy never mind it doesnt even look close to cobwebbing im prob just being paranoid :/ really feelin like a noob haha

peace lads

Edited by 3redeyes (10/19/18 05:51 PM)

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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Of course we want an update :smile: (cobweb is rare) :super:


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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: Mateja]
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Okay so now that ive got my chamber bangin thanks to all your advice lads, this is where theyre at a day later! im not sure what to do with these, one of them looks like theyll be a nice big cap to make a nice print from, as I still have 4 fresh cakes waiting to pin i kinda was thinking to leave these mature and print as many as i can. but from what ive read if i was just going to not worry about taking prints... seems like maybe now would be a good time to harvest? only reason i say that is what i read about potency and that type of thing.. seeking more advise haha  what do you guys think?

they look like theyve suffered retardation due to how much FAE they had all they way through their fruit cycle lol poor little guys.. but im sure theyll still do the job



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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: 3redeyes]
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i cant believe these guys bounced back

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Re: stalled cakes maybe and possible contam? [Re: Mateja]
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VroomerMcZoomers said:
OP, your cakes aren't moldy.  That blue is just stressed mycelium.  My guess is they are too dry, the fact that the bottom is pinning nicely is a good indicator for that.  I just went through that with a new fruiting chamber, and the cakes looked exactly like that.  Exactly. 

I put them back in an unmodified tub and they recovered and fruited very nicely.  I flipped em upside down so the still-healthy bottoms were up and those pins could develop.

The SGFC is a crap shoot and I think it's a piece of shit personally.  I like the old school unmodified tubs with misting and fanning.

...there is always someone here to tell people having troubles to throw away their mushroom growing project.




I agree as well. for me personally if you can keep things clean, you're better off starting tubs. THey practically do everything themselves, all you might have to do is squirt once or twice and let some fresh air in, MAYBE!


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Edited by DEZn00ts (10/26/18 01:12 AM)

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