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Homo Sapien
    #2553044 - 04/13/04 02:19 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

20 million years ago the human brain was alot smaller than it is today. What is causing the brain to grow in size over the years? Is it our increasing technology and expanding awareness? What happens when we receed the bounderies of our skull and enter the world of outerly realities? What is the next step in human evolution, and if the Earth was destroyed, would some form of intelegent life ever elvolve again within 30 million years?


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2553113 - 04/13/04 02:39 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Variations in the jawbone allowed for a more volumous cranium some thousand years ago. People that study such things have isolated the first instances of culture some 50,000 years ago. They believe that creatures began making jewelry as a form of expression. This abstract action allowed thoughts to be conveyed at a glance. This was like a conduit for language, and in conjunction with the creativity facilitating opposable thumb, these things made the mind grow.


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What happens when we receed the bounderies of our skull and enter the world of outerly realities? What is the next step in human evolution, and if the Earth was destroyed, would some form of intelegent life ever elvolve again within 30 million years?




Evolution telescopes. To say the least, it is not a linear progression, so it is impossible to predict the future.


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: SpecialEd]
    #2553148 - 04/13/04 02:49 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

That's a good theory... I just dont see how jewlry and apearance could be the start of 'intellegence' I mean, weren't the first cave men intellegent in their own way to fasion spears of stone and pack hunt mammoths to survive? Why did the brain increase? Because we learned more? Well if that is true why do most humans today only use something like 8% of their brain? Things DON'T evolve without a purpose, because the would defeat evolution right? SO maybe humans used to be very advanced , but now we lack unde rstanding, but since we can't 'de evolve' our brains remain the same, large, but unused. ?


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2553168 - 04/13/04 02:54 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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I just dont see how jewlry and apearance could be the start of 'intellegence'




It marks the beginning of abstract communication, which paves the way for language.

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weren't the first cave men intellegent in their own way to fasion spears of stone and pack hunt mammoths to survive?




Yes, tool making = creativity = mental evolution. Game hunting encourages strategy = intelligence

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Because we learned more? Well if that is true why do most humans today only use something like 8% of their brain?




Not so sure if that is true.

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Things DON'T evolve without a purpose, because the would defeat evolution right?




Evolution is merely change in response to a pressure. To say it is goal oriented is to miss something epic.


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2560187 - 04/14/04 05:52 PM (14 years, 14 days ago)

20 million years ago were no humans... so no "human brains"
homo, pan, & gorilla genera were still one...

homo neaderthalensis & homo sapiens cromagnon had larger cranial capacity than does homo sapiens sapiens...
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"if the world was destroyed" ? (destroyed to bare scorched rock? or just having all humans removed? quite a big difference there...)
30 million years is a long time... could develop sapient species capable of manipulating environment from any number of modern mammalian stock (raccoons would be easy to  start with, for example...)

why, do you wanna play god?
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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2566076 - 04/16/04 12:20 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

the mind is out-growing the monkey,,


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2566111 - 04/16/04 12:33 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Maybe its accidents. I fell on my head when i was a young young child, before i turned one :wink:. I had a skull fracture. I wonder if it caused my brain to either grow larger... or be more cramped by the increasing bone formation as the result of the break. Maybe things like these happened alot... which changed small things, and those things, just... changed other stuff. We have learned how to use our brains more. We can use and understand forms of complex communication. We even have TOOLS for communication now... ie the internet... Maybe this will allow us to understand more parts of our brain that were not stimulated before.


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Re: Homo Sapien [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2566223 - 04/16/04 01:19 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Maybe its accidents. I fell on my head when i was a young young child, before i turned one . I had a skull fracture.

I had the exact same thing happen to me, before I turned one. Went for a flying leap down a set of stairs onto a concrete floor :smirk:


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    #2566901 - 04/16/04 09:39 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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20 million years ago the human brain was alot smaller than it is today. What is causing the brain to grow in size over the years? Is it our increasing technology and expanding awareness? What happens when we receed the bounderies of our skull and enter the world of outerly realities? What is the next step in human evolution, and if the Earth was destroyed, would some form of intelegent life ever elvolve again within 30 million years?




This sounds like Mckenna and Co. 27:25, but I don't know. Interesting conversation.

http://mckenna.psychedelic-library.org/trialogues%2098%20-%201%20-%20sheldrake-mckenna-abraham.mp3

Language may be the evolving life form, according to Mckenna.

You know, he passed this month, four years ago.


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