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Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus???
    #25523761 - 10/09/18 06:51 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Found LOTS of these..



Found in the same area as my last post, in a hydro field.. except unlike the previous species, these ones were spread far out. Some found in snall mowed grass patch with 2 compost bins nearby, most were found mid field among the weeds like clover and dandelion, and those big wood chunks were in a big pile of dirt and sticks just under a hydro tower. Can't tell yeah what kind of wood it was. Conifers and hardwoods here and there but for the most part the mushrooms were found out in the open.

Location southern Ontario, had some recent rain.

Cap light tan to dark brown, many have a darker brown margin ring.

Gills large for specimen size, dark brown to black color, 3 tiers.

Stem long and slender, tan-white near the top and darkens to honey brown near the base. No noticeable blueing that I can see.

Smells like regular earthy mushroom if my nose is working right.

Found quite a few standing alone, but many were in small clusters as you can see on the wood pieces.

Spore print looks black as coal.

No visible bruising so far that I can see..

I think it might be Panaeolus cinctulus??. If I missed anything let me know! And I got a the pictures slightly mixed, sorry!


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Re: Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus??? [Re: Fowllife]
    #25523801 - 10/09/18 07:19 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Psathyrella sp.


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Re: Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus??? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25523864 - 10/09/18 08:08 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

spadicea?? I guess I should mention size, these are very small. Biggest cap is the size of my pinky nail. I'm reading about spadicea and it says red-brown spore print. Or are you talking about a different species of psathyrella genus? Thanks by the way!


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Re: Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus??? [Re: Fowllife]
    #25523920 - 10/09/18 09:06 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

"Sp." denotes that it's any species in the genus. You probably won't get more specific than that with regard to ID. Panaeolus species will not be found growing on a woody substrate. Look more in grass or garden beds that are well cared for, especially if they contain manure.


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Re: Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus??? [Re: Fowllife]
    #25523943 - 10/09/18 09:25 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt P. spadicea, they are usually larger than these, but then again this genus often requires
more identification like microscopy and DNA sequencing to get to correct species.


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Re: Help with noob ID.. Panaeolus cinctulus??? [Re: Fowllife]
    #25523948 - 10/09/18 09:29 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Noted, thanks. For the hell of it, more pics of spore print..

Solo print.

this second pic is for color reference, bottom left print = stropharia from previous post, top left = another different genus (rusty brown), The print on the RIGHT is the specimen in question. It's like charcoal black.


I also found 2 other species with similar characteristics and size, found only in the grasses around the maintained patch as well as scattered throughout the field. I'm having difficulty getting spore prints from them, theyre just so small! So I'll skip trying to ID them. One gave me a whitish print but not easy to see and can't be sure of its color. Better luck next time I hope lol thanks for your help!


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