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What's a fair price for Lion's Mane?
    #2549938 - 04/12/04 01:25 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I'm about to start growing Lion's Mane to sell, I have about 250 pounds of g2 wbs, I'm planning I more g2g then to wood blocks. I already have some stores intrested, and they want a price on it but I am unsure what would be a good price to sell it for. Any ideas?

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2550703 - 04/12/04 09:23 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

60% of retail

You should check out www.mushroomcouncil.org for marketing ideas and strategery.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2551019 - 04/12/04 11:21 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

we do em for 6 a pound.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: ]
    #2551031 - 04/12/04 11:24 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Wil those grow on straw?


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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2551100 - 04/12/04 11:42 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Never seen them on straw. But only on bags filled with sawdust/bran
They yield well.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2556392 - 04/13/04 06:42 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

We grow Hericium in the UK, but we do not sell it as Lion's Mane because the name seemed, to us, about as appealing as a boil on the butt! Experience tells us that an unappealing name generally means a piss-poor price for your growing effort - Shiitake!

According to Paul Stamets, there is a company in Cali that markets Lion's Mane as "Pom Pom Blanc", which is, you must admit, more appealing by suggestion than Lion's Mane or Monkey's Head! Don't know what kind of price they get at market but at least they have applied some progressive thought to the problem of the common tags for this species, which we applaud.

We learnt how to grow this mushroom on a few small-scale trials - 25 x 2 litre bags and when the first fruit was harvested the first thought that passed through the mind was TRUFFLE! Try it? Look at the mushroom, its physiology, its volume, its character, its flavour.....

We intend to develop a marketing strategy around a character called Tinker (an itinerant seasonal worker in the UK - a Republican congressman in the US!). Tinker spends his year wandering the countryside undertaking seasonal work - building walls in summer, cutting wood in winter, tending livestock in the spring, etc, etc.

Each month of the year, Tinker has a favourite food that he gathers from the forest and Tinker's year will end in October (Equinox) when he wanders into a very special ancient forest to collect his clump of Hericium. Tinker has a very special method of cooking this mushroom and the preparation of this one meal a year (being ecologically correct he only gathers enough for one meal) is looked upon by Tinker as a very special meal.

The association with the truffle,(and let's face it we are not that far off the mark),and the tale, to be reproduced shortly as a children's book, the old rural character that everyone hankers to be with means that we can market our mushrooms for ?45 per kilo - about US$80.

We grow 2 BIG fruits per bag for the chefs (4/500gms per block) and we prick 6 holes for sales to the public, who purchase them in nice brown bags for ?4.50 per 100gms (US$8 per 100 gms).

Lateral thought and a world full of marketing opportunities........

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: BigGym]
    #2556573 - 04/13/04 07:32 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

WOW! That means you are getting roughly $36 per american pound. That is unbelievable.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: BigGym]
    #2556648 - 04/13/04 07:48 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I assume you use hardwood sawdust.

How long does it take from spawn untill harvest?


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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2558172 - 04/14/04 07:42 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It takes ruffly three weeks maybe four. Using a spawn ration 1 to 10.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: ]
    #2558678 - 04/14/04 10:19 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

About the same as oyster or cubensis then.

Not bad. I just don't have the patience for mushrooms that take months or years.

I have a lion's mane culture which I've had for about a year. I just plated it out onto some fresh medium. Maybe I should give it a shot.


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The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2559029 - 04/14/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I hear you. These Reishi we are playing with are taking so so long.
for speed though go with an oyster. Pinks rock ten day spawn run. But the thing is they are built for speed. There shelf life is only a few days.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: ]
    #2561502 - 04/14/04 10:11 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

You just can't beat the ruggedness of H. ulmarius though. They'll produce under almost any conditions.

I may try lion's mane on straw soon, just to see if it works. I need to find a good source of hardwood sawdust. There's a sawmill here in town, but I don't know if they cut hard, or soft wood.

I do know that a truck load of sawdust from there is $4.


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The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2561939 - 04/15/04 12:36 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

woow, that's really cheap. You could do SRA in outdoor beds on them.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: ragadinks]
    #2562038 - 04/15/04 01:15 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I've got SRA from Anno.


Say, I've just found some good info on growing Lion's mane.

http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech/orgfarm/mycology/teleport-online/MGN.6-94


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Edited by Baby_Hitler (04/15/04 02:00 AM)

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2564902 - 04/15/04 04:48 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Use oak sawdust and small amount of bran. From agar plate through grain, to fruiting is about 4 weeks. Second flush after 5 days resting at 17C.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: ragadinks]
    #2564960 - 04/15/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Eh, I just found out it's a mix of oak, poplar, and pine.


Useless.


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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2564970 - 04/15/04 05:07 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Why useless ?

I think SRA and Hericium erinaceus or Hericium abietis would do well on this mixture.
Or do I miss something ?

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2566268 - 04/15/04 11:39 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It might not be completely useless, give it a try- @$4 a truckload you wouldn't be out much :wink:
Thanks for the feedback on the prices, I told 'em $30, they countered w/$24- we settled  at $26 a lb :grin:

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2566634 - 04/16/04 04:07 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbup: that is a very good price (for you!!) :grin:

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2568264 - 04/16/04 02:47 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

$26 a lb is close to $60 a kilo, which (given Bush/Cheney monetary policies) is close to what we achieve in the UK at ?45 per kilo.  Nice one!

If you don't ask, you don't get??  :thumbup:

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: BigGym]
    #2568374 - 04/16/04 03:31 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Long time listener, first time caller

2-3 pound fruits are fairly common for me

I use an oak sawdust/ organic midds. crude protein 17.2pct,crude fat 2.8pct, crude fiber 10pct./ and a bit of gyp. moisture till it looks right.
after noccing and sealing, I put an elastic around the bag just above the substrate level, sort of bottle necking an area of about 3 inch. dia.
After a couple of weeks the Bears Head ( what they are referred to here) will begin forming invitro. the 3 inch. dia. area at the top of the substrate provides a great base for large fruits and also speeds the process up a bit. allowing me the ability to see exactly when they are ready to go into the growroom. usually when the invitro mushroom is at about 1/2 pound or so. where they really only spend about six days, depending on how efficently the room is working and outside temps.
IMO the longer time spent invitro/ the better the final appearance
i don't have a digi but can probably take some pics soon.
oh ya they go $8- $12/ lb. I Usually grow between 60- and 120 lbs./ week

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: BigGym]
    #2570166 - 04/17/04 01:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I need to learn how to cultivate this one. There's currently no one producing them that I can find within the immediate area. If I could get a price like that


:grin:

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: brainbreath]
    #2571600 - 04/17/04 05:03 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)


Seems as though cultivation methods differ and prices vary in extremities - but what do you do with your Hericium?

We slice it fairly thin (2-5mm) and then marinade it in oyster sauce for about 3 hours - can go for longer but ours tested and tasted best at 3 - and then fry the slices in extremely hot oil (good Soy or Sesame - not Canola! and not quite fire!) for about 60 seconds. First tried this in Japan in 1999, and the taste took my legs from under me - cold, rainy night, hot tasty food!

Prompted the term "Culinary Orgasm", which will feature heavily in our future marketing promo for this mushroom.

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Re: What's a fair price for Lion's Mane? [Re: BigGym]
    #2572221 - 04/17/04 08:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

We like to tear it up into about 1" pieces and saute in oil on high heat for about a minute, then sear it with butter. The idea came from GGMM, it might not be exact but Stamets recommends something similar to it. Delicious

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