Home | Community | Message Board


MushroomCube.com
Please support our sponsors.

Community >> The Pub

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 32,482
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 17 hours, 39 minutes
Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists
    #25490946 - 09/26/18 06:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Since it's almost Christmas time, I thought I'd start a discussion about Santa Claus.  I feel that making kids believe in Santa hurts the parent and the child.

It hurts the parent because once kids find out that there's no Santa, the parent loses credibility.  It hurts the kid because if they get shitty presents, but the kid next door gets the bike they wanted, they think "What have I done to anger Santa?  I must be a terrible person."

Agree or disagree? 












--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month: The Ides - Psychedelic Ride



Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleJohnnieYen
Okay
I'm a teapot


Registered: 03/15/11
Posts: 3,486
Loc: City Z
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #25490958 - 09/26/18 06:09 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Disagree.  Logically I can see your argument but it was not my experience. Kids believing in Santa is pretty magical, when they stop believing the magic surrounding Christmas just isn't the same.

plus you can't bribe them with the "Santas watching you" when they are misbehaving.

Daughter confronted us around 10 years old when kids at school were talking about it. Ruined it for her younger brother. We didn't lose credibility. They just lost a little innocence though


--------------------
[center


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibletrees
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/08/09
Posts: 6,446
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan]
    #25491066 - 09/26/18 06:58 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Learyfan said:
Since it's almost Christmas time, I thought I'd start a discussion about the kid next door gets the bike they wanted, they think "What have I done to anger Santa?  I must be a terrible person."





:mindblown:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleTheFakeSunRa
your good friend <3
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 15,083
Loc: Pelican Bay SHU Program
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan] * 3
    #25491081 - 09/26/18 07:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

It’s fucking September


--------------------
Space is the Place


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblePatrickKn
I'm a teapot

Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 17,461
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 2
    #25491114 - 09/26/18 07:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Santa is part of our cultural mythos and I don't see much issue with keeping that going with younger children. I don't think it negatively effects people in the long term, if anything it teaches people to not trust authority in general and to reason logically through any belief. When I pieced together that Santa was not real it was more of a eureka moment for me than it was some sad thing that hurt me.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineHerbologist
Grrratata
I'm a teapot


Registered: 05/09/10
Posts: 7,471
Loc: Casa Bonita Flag
Last seen: 4 months, 26 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #25491123 - 09/26/18 07:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I never lost creditibility with my parents just because I found out Santa was fake.


Believing in Santa made Christmas that much more exciting and fun for me.  It was a mysterious feeling that brought excitement and when I found out it was just whatever, I still trusted my parents.

Plus, i was in the same boat as all my friends.  Believing and having fun with it one year & not believing the next year.


--------------------
Shroomery Law:  Don't piss off the leftist mods & their friends! :banhamster:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleTulipslave
Homo sapiens sapiens, lol

Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 6,752
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #25491163 - 09/26/18 07:34 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Learyfan said:
Since it's almost Christmas time, I thought I'd start a discussion about Santa Claus.  I feel that making kids believe in Santa hurts the parent and the child.

It hurts the parent because once kids find out that there's no Santa, the parent loses credibility.  It hurts the kid because if they get shitty presents, but the kid next door gets the bike they wanted, they think "What have I done to anger Santa?  I must be a terrible person."

Agree or disagree? 















i agree.  i looked at it as being lied to and for no real purpose.  the "magic" and "wonder" the myth of santa clause provides could still be provided if approached differently.  it's more like a cop-out to not put any thought or emotion into it.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinexbloodwhipx

Registered: 02/24/12
Posts: 12,791
Last seen: 1 year, 8 months
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #25491167 - 09/26/18 07:35 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Herbologist said:
I never lost creditibility with my parents just because I found out Santa was fake.


Believing in Santa made Christmas that much more exciting and fun for me.  It was a mysterious feeling that brought excitement and when I found out it was just whatever, I still trusted my parents.

Plus, i was in the same boat as all my friends.  Believing and having fun with it one year & not believing the next year.




Exactly, it was SO magical to think santa brought you gifts. impossible to replicate feelings of mystery and excitement.

Fuck, let the fucking kids believe in santa. what the fuck does it matter?


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineparadoxlost
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/28/17
Posts: 722
Last seen: 2 months, 13 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #25491192 - 09/26/18 07:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

JohnnieYen said:
Disagree.  Logically I can see your argument but it was not my experience. Kids believing in Santa is pretty magical, when they stop believing the magic surrounding Christmas just isn't the same.

plus you can't bribe them with the "Santas watching you" when they are misbehaving.

Daughter confronted us around 10 years old when kids at school were talking about it. Ruined it for her younger brother. We didn't lose credibility. They just lost a little innocence though





You're a weirdo


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepacmanbreed
Mickey Mouse
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 3,280
Last seen: 1 month, 21 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan]
    #25491374 - 09/26/18 08:53 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, We dont celebrate dec 25 catholic christmas now adays in our house hold. It conditions the mind to the material rewards and myths.

We value everyday as christmas though not solely focused on material rewards.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepacmanbreed
Mickey Mouse
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 3,280
Last seen: 1 month, 21 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #25491393 - 09/26/18 09:00 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
It’s fucking September




Actually the romans shoulved dated the birth of christ around sep to october. Dec is pretty illogical and inacurate :strokebeard:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleAmanita86
OTD Admin
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/26/12
Posts: 75,266
Loc: hades
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: pacmanbreed] * 2
    #25491414 - 09/26/18 09:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Santa doesn’t exist?:omgz:


--------------------
:mushroom2:Orange clock, pencil:bouncysmoke:
"They threw me off the hay truck about noon...":fishing:
:mushroom2:*Mark 15:34:levitate::mushroom2::blueninja:
Gam zeh ya’avor...:sunny:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleTheFakeSunRa
your good friend <3
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 15,083
Loc: Pelican Bay SHU Program
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25491415 - 09/26/18 09:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

pacmanbreed said:
Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
It’s fucking September




Actually the romans shoulved dated the birth of christ around sep to october. Dec is pretty illogical and inacurate :strokebeard:




He had a fake ID


--------------------
Space is the Place


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepacmanbreed
Mickey Mouse
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 3,280
Last seen: 1 month, 21 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #25491465 - 09/26/18 09:23 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yes they made a dumb obvious fake id for us to focus on celebrating the date. Rather than being conditioned to celebrate on the person and traits.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinetwigheadS
mͯó
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 24,232
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmi... Flag
Last seen: 17 hours, 28 minutes
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Amanita86]
    #25491490 - 09/26/18 09:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Amanita86 said:
Santa doesn’t exist?:omgz:



I just sat on his lap last year :kingcrankey:


--------------------
¿Check out some art m8?



Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepacmanbreed
Mickey Mouse
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 3,280
Last seen: 1 month, 21 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25491510 - 09/26/18 09:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
He had a fake ID



Yes they made a dumb obvious fake id for us to focus in celebrating the date. Rather than being conditioned to celebrate on the person and traits.

Constantine may not have completely established the date of Christmas, but what is clear is that he had considerable influence in setting the date of December 25 as Christ’s birthday. For threir pagan god.

The story begins from Caesar Augustus that the entire world should be taxed
Quote:

(Luke2:1) “And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.”




Joseph and Mary, being from the tribe of David, have to travel from Galilee to Bethlehem (which is called the city of David) to be “enrolled” and taxed.  This was the particular time of the year when Mary should deliver the child Jesus
Quote:

(Luke 2:3-7) “And all went to be enrolled, each to his own city.  And Joseph also went up from Galilee, from the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, to be enrolled with Mary, his betrothed, who was with child.  And while they were there, the time came for her to be delivered.  And she gave birth to her first-born son and wrapped him in swaddling cloths, and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn.”




On that same evening, apostle Luke tells us that there were shepherds in the fields watching over their flock to whom the angels announce the birth of the savior Jesus Christ.
Quote:

(Luke 2:8-11) “And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.”




At this juncture, let us pause for a while and think.  Could all of these happen on the 25th of December?

No Roman emperor as wise as Caesar Augustus (refuted to have changed the political and financial system of the Roman Empire to start a “new order”, which firmly established the empire for the next two centuries and was called as the “Golden Age of Rome’s Empire”), will order a census for the purposes of taxation, on December or  in winter – rendering it impossible for Christ to be born on December 25 when the landscape of the Holy Land was filled with snow, making it very difficult to travel.  Using simple common sense, no shepherd will bring out his sheep at night when fields were covered with knee-deep snow.

Bethlehem during dec, there are no grass, for the sheperd to let their flock/sheep gaze.


Edited by pacmanbreed (09/26/18 10:01 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleTheFakeSunRa
your good friend <3
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/02/05
Posts: 15,083
Loc: Pelican Bay SHU Program
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25491535 - 09/26/18 09:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I was there and he really was born on Christmas. Hell of a coincidence if you think about it.


--------------------
Space is the Place


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMandarinfish

Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 1,324
Last seen: 3 hours, 57 minutes
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #25491538 - 09/26/18 09:46 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

.


Edited by Mandarinfish (07/19/20 07:02 AM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblepachoo
Witchakookoo
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 09/10/10
Posts: 7,132
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Learyfan] * 3
    #25491553 - 09/26/18 09:54 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Funnily enough, yesterday my son put his hand on my shoulder and said "Mom, I know Santa doesn't exist and it's okay." To which I replied... "Yes he does." And he shook his head and said "No mom, I know why you slept in the living room last year. To put the presents under the tree..." Then I did an awkward laugh like he was the crazy one.


But seriously, my kid has pretty much figured it out years ago when we were talking about the folklore pertaining to Saint Nicholas the real dude. Keeping folklore around isn't a big deal in my house. We celebrate all the normal holidays and seasons and it seems to go on just fine. It's not going to damage your kid to add a little bit of magic in their life as long as you handle it correctly when they assume they aren't really real. I mean, to be honest, I still believe in the magic of it all. It's what you make out of it.


--------------------


:heartpump::heartpump: :heartpump::heartpump:


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinepacmanbreed
Mickey Mouse
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/12/16
Posts: 3,280
Last seen: 1 month, 21 days
Re: Impact of telling kids Santa Claus exists [Re: Mandarinfish]
    #25491556 - 09/26/18 09:54 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mandarinfish said:
You can't skip Holidays.  :sad:

That's the law.  :mad2:

Halloween, Octoberfest, Thanksgiving Turkey Feast, etc.




We have plenty holiday dates in our country being mixed religions. Ramadan, dec 25, holyweek etc.
Wheres the skipin? Mentioned earlier Its everyday holiday christmas for us. :shrug:

Most christmas song are influenced by dec 25 fake id though the melody is nice. Eg. The First Noel


Edited by pacmanbreed (09/26/18 10:18 PM)


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder

Community >> The Pub

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* If you have kids notapillow 1,097 15 03/10/04 05:19 PM
by shriek
* Random act of kidness TODAY 1,677 15 02/29/04 03:23 AM
by YouEnjoyMyself
* Tell me your darkest Secrete
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
Ripple 8,425 86 03/19/04 04:05 PM
by Vulture
* What did Santa bring you? daba 1,367 16 12/27/03 05:34 AM
by Wheedhead!
* Rooms for rent in Santa Monica, CA Plok 819 6 11/26/04 12:04 AM
by Its Pat
* Is Santa flying high on mushrooms? soulflyer 893 3 02/20/04 03:45 PM
by Voodoo
* Keeping kids OUT of the shroomery... (*LOCK*)
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Rustik 10,581 66 05/06/03 04:02 PM
by Rustik
* Should I tell my parents about my drug use?
( 1 2 all )
MOTH 3,927 22 03/16/04 07:24 PM
by Gus

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
478 topic views. 2 members, 9 guests and 68 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
ElevationChemicals.com - Reagent Test Kits
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2021 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.033 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 18 queries.