Home | Community | Message Board


Cannabis Seeds UK
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Coir

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
OfflineMycelesoul
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 05/21/18
Posts: 7
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Spawn to bulk dried grains
    #25490427 - 09/26/18 02:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Hey everybody, I have this jar that has a GE hole too big (I realized it too late).


As you can see, the grain dried up and the mycelium is rather weak. If I would spawn it to bulk, will the regenerate?


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleShroomspective
Looking into the void
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 09/26/15
Posts: 1,725
Loc: Far Far Away
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Mycelesoul]
    #25490433 - 09/26/18 02:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

How big is the hole? Have you just shaken the jar before the picture given the white looks distributed throughout the uncolonized grain?


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineverum subsequentis
seeker of truth
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 03/22/16
Posts: 8,086
Last seen: 10 hours, 26 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25490502 - 09/26/18 02:49 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

if it's actually just a little dry it should recover fine but it's entirely possible that you have other problems. a shake test could prove beneficial. if it's actually just a little dry on top, shaking it up really well should redistribute the moisture and you can see if it recovers well. but truth be told, i feel like you've got other problems in there.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCaps McGeeS
Grandaddy Smurfshack
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ... Flag
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25490516 - 09/26/18 02:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I suspect bacteria present... A lot of folks rehydrate grain before spawning by filling shaken jars with room temp tap water for 10 minutes and draining thoroughly ... though this could greatly exacerbate any contamination issue... might consider compensating by mixing bulk slightly over (not much) feild capacity to offset and rehydrate the spawn indirectly


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineverum subsequentis
seeker of truth
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 03/22/16
Posts: 8,086
Last seen: 10 hours, 26 minutes
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25490525 - 09/26/18 03:01 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

even "field capacity" bulk sub has enough water to re hydrate slightly dry grains. i'd be careful about adding too much water to the sub. also, a top layer of sub would be a good idea if your grains are a little too dry.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCaps McGeeS
Grandaddy Smurfshack
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ... Flag
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25490528 - 09/26/18 03:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah,  overkill is easy... but I suspect any issues will derive from the spawn itself: not looking too hot


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleMunchauzen
Mushroom Maharaja
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/23/11
Posts: 13,962
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25490563 - 09/26/18 03:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Caps McGee said:
I suspect bacteria present... A lot of folks rehydrate grain before spawning by filling shaken jars with room temp tap water for 10 minutes and draining thoroughly ... though this could greatly exacerbate any contamination issue... might consider compensating by mixing bulk slightly over (not much) feild capacity to offset and rehydrate the spawn indirectly



dunking colonized grain is :thumbdown: I don't think very many people are actually doing that anymore.

I personally would shake the jar. If it recovers, fine to spawn. but definitely not trying to rehydrate the grains. If you insist, just add the water to the coir.

its just bad practice to dunk grains and pour away tons of mycelium in the water when you don't have to. incorprate more water into the sub, but for Gods sake don't pour your mycelium down the drain.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCaps McGeeS
Grandaddy Smurfshack
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ... Flag
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25490567 - 09/26/18 03:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I don't do it, and wouldn't spawn that jar personally... but I have quite a stockpile and can afford to be picky LOL... was just a suggestion I've seen and suspect OP  to do his own follow-up research


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMycelesoul
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 05/21/18
Posts: 7
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Munchauzen]
    #25490653 - 09/26/18 04:02 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomspective said:
How big is the hole? Have you just shaken the jar before the picture given the white looks distributed throughout the uncolonized grain?




It's pretty big, 3/4 inch. The jar was shaken around 10 days ago. This is after the recovery.

Quote:

verum subsequentis said:
if it's actually just a little dry it should recover fine but it's entirely possible that you have other problems. a shake test could prove beneficial. if it's actually just a little dry on top, shaking it up really well should redistribute the moisture and you can see if it recovers well. but truth be told, i feel like you've got other problems in there.




Quote:

Munchauzen said:
Quote:

Caps McGee said:
I suspect bacteria present... A lot of folks rehydrate grain before spawning by filling shaken jars with room temp tap water for 10 minutes and draining thoroughly ... though this could greatly exacerbate any contamination issue... might consider compensating by mixing bulk slightly over (not much) feild capacity to offset and rehydrate the spawn indirectly



dunking colonized grain is :thumbdown: I don't think very many people are actually doing that anymore.

I personally would shake the jar. If it recovers, fine to spawn. but definitely not trying to rehydrate the grains. If you insist, just add the water to the coir.

its just bad practice to dunk grains and pour away tons of mycelium in the water when you don't have to. incorprate more water into the sub, but for Gods sake don't pour your mycelium down the drain.





I have another one with the exact same condition that I shook today. Looks pretty dry at the moment, I will keep an eye and see if it shows signs of recovery.

Thanks for the tips.


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMycelesoul
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 05/21/18
Posts: 7
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Mycelesoul]
    #25495265 - 09/28/18 11:33 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Things start to look good, I will probably spawn it



Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleCaps McGeeS
Grandaddy Smurfshack
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 14,357
Loc: ally known as ... Flag
Re: Spawn to bulk dried grains [Re: Mycelesoul]
    #25495329 - 09/28/18 12:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Long way to go man


Post Extras: Filter  Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Coir

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Use of PF style cakes to spawn bulk substrate? drenaline 5,428 6 05/03/19 11:06 PM
by towndaze
* Post deleted by Moe Howard
( 1 2 all )
Macey Howard 4,842 36 08/11/02 11:18 AM
by indkebr
* Getting Bulk Rye Grain vader 1,146 2 05/31/02 03:55 PM
by ralphster44
* bulk drying *DELETED* growlog 1,304 14 09/09/02 08:47 PM
by Cubies4Me
* Whats the point of grains? Fd3000 1,103 11 07/24/02 11:04 PM
by phrozendata
* Bulk Substrate KatatoniK 4,329 2 05/25/02 07:10 PM
by Roadkill
* How to yield 35+ Dry Grams from 2 cakes
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 9,820 32 05/28/01 03:51 PM
by BrownPastures
* Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die.
( 1 2 all )
Larrythescaryrex 3,116 29 09/25/02 02:57 AM
by mickey_rourke

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, FooMan, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, stonesun, wildernessjunkie, cronicr, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
355 topic views. 26 members, 128 guests and 65 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
Shroom Supply
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2021 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 13 queries.