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Poppy B
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Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium
#25462571 - 09/15/18 04:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey y'all, I'm completely inexperienced with mushroom cultivation. I'm doing my due diligence, using the search and learning each day.While I found it easy enough to locate good photos of oyster mycelium in the early stages, I'm not having such good luck with Cubensis. 7 days ago I inoculated my first set of WBS jars with purple mystic spores, and 5 days ago I followed up with a set of WBS jars of blue oyster. The oyster appears to have germinated rapidly and is growing according to the description I read.. However I'm not sure about the Cubensis. I see a bit of white appearing, but quite a bit of it is on the inside glass of the jar. Is this the typical way a Cubensis jar would look 7 days in?
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25462849 - 09/15/18 07:17 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I vote mold.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25463035 - 09/15/18 09:35 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Disclaimer, I’m a noob.
It looks to me like your WBS is starting to sprout though.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: SunnyDayze]
#25463082 - 09/15/18 10:08 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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It’s a little hard to tell from the pic. Some varieties are slower than others. I have some Purple Mystic going on agar right now, and if I remember correctly, they were a bit slower in germinating. Just give it more time and see what happens.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: PopaCap]
#25463376 - 09/16/18 01:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope you have a lot of those jars you won't do much withthat little bit. You will need about 30 of them to do 1 mono tub.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25463415 - 09/16/18 02:05 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could be cobweb or a monokaryotic system of mycelium looking for a mate.
Give it a couple more days and update us with the development and we will be able to tell ya for sure..
Under what conditions are you inoculating? Do you have a SAB? FlowHood? Shmuvbox ( fucking hate that word btw lol)
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: TheAtlantean]
#25463416 - 09/16/18 02:08 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks like mold to me.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Fascistbullyboy]
#25463441 - 09/16/18 02:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Contaminated with mold and yeast.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25463716 - 09/16/18 07:16 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I PCed for 90 minutes at 15psi. inoculated in an SAB, flamed needle between injections, nitrile gloves, 70% iso wipedowns in between. My control jar also appears clean with no issues.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25463755 - 09/16/18 07:39 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poppy B said: Hey y'all, I'm completely inexperienced with mushroom cultivation. I'm doing my due diligence, using the search and learning each day.While I found it easy enough to locate good photos of oyster mycelium in the early stages, I'm not having such good luck with Cubensis. 7 days ago I inoculated my first set of WBS jars with purple mystic spores, and 5 days ago I followed up with a set of WBS jars of blue oyster. The oyster appears to have germinated rapidly and is growing according to the description I read.. However I'm not sure about the Cubensis. I see a bit of white appearing, but quite a bit of it is on the inside glass of the jar. Is this the typical way a Cubensis jar would look 7 days in?
Take more pics in another week. No one can tell anything from those. The oyster one looks good so far. The cube one hasn't started and i think the wetness against the glass is why so many people are with their opinion.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: bodhisatta]
#25463784 - 09/16/18 07:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks Bodhi. I will do. On a further note, my room temp is set at 75f.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25464221 - 09/16/18 10:56 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: I hope you have a lot of those jars you won't do much withthat little bit. You will need about 30 of them to do 1 mono tub.
I did 1 dozen of the cubes, and 11 blue oyster. One jar was left uninnoculated for a control. Since I've never tried to cultivate mushrooms, I wanted to do a scaled down size. I buy the half pint jars by the 6 dozens. I virtually had everything I needed already for the experiment except of clean spores. Cubensis is wild and abundant here so I'm not interested in large scale production.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25464232 - 09/16/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Poppy B said: ... using the search and learning each day.While I found it easy enough to locate good photos of oyster mycelium in the early stages, I'm not having such good luck with Cubensis...
Micelium looks similar on both.Cube quite similar to oyster mycelium Have in mind: temperature is factor for grow too.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Gele]
#25467978 - 09/17/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I examined through 8x magnification today, and the supposed "yeast turned out to be undissolved gypsum stuck to the glass from when I rattled the birdseed as per instructions. I could see where it may cause confusion due to the circular nature of the stains. I ferment in the same room and was beginning to think I somehow introduced saccromyces lol. The "cobwebs" of mold that are all growing beautifully in the blue oyster jars as if I inoculated them intentionally.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25480489 - 09/22/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Day 14 update. What was suspected to be a mold or yeast simply appears to be a bit of undissolved gypsum stuck to the glass. No other colonies of anything have appeared in any of the Cubensis jars. The grain will be composted. Oyster jars day 12. The "cobweb" appears to be giving way to a cottony white version of mycelium I can only assume is the Oyster. All jars are filling completely in with it. It was suspected that the package may have suffered from the heatwave that has been going on en route and product will be. Replaced!!So onward I will go in the beginnings of a new hobby.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Poppy B]
#25481007 - 09/22/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The smell, best way to determine what is growing.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Gele]
#25481042 - 09/22/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gele said: The smell, best way to determine what is growing.
P.S. be smart and DONT inhale quantities of spores of some kind of mold !
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Gele]
#25481141 - 09/22/18 03:35 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gele said: The smell, best way to determine what is growing.
No, that's the last thing you check. Most things will be obvious visually. Very few contams will look good but smell bad.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25482075 - 09/23/18 12:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gele said: The smell, best way to determine what is growing.
No, that's the last thing you check. Most things will be obvious visually. Very few contams will look good but smell bad.
Visually - there is picture above, does not look like mushroom micelium.
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Re: Help needed with ID of early stage mycelium [Re: Gele]
#25488747 - 09/25/18 05:43 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gele said: The smell, best way to determine what is growing.
No, that's the last thing you check. Most things will be obvious visually. Very few contams will look good but smell bad.
Visually - there is picture above, does not look like mushroom micelium.
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