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BlueCoyote
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Everyone -thing lives on its own speed
#25477682 - 09/21/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just want you to remember.
I don't know if there's something to debate, maybe only if that is even possible when our universe seems connected via space-time...
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pacmanbreed
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: BlueCoyote]
#25477713 - 09/21/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good title, I agree on it. I believed spacetime came first before the galaxies.
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Rahz
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: pacmanbreed] 1
#25484124 - 09/23/18 09:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I were to debate your idea I would suggest shared reality is a fundamental idea in philosophy, but that it's subjective meaning or worth is varied from one person to another. This viewpoint might suggest the basic fact of shared reality is mundane and not defining/refining.
In debate there is not only an opportunity to lay out an argument, which I think we all like or tend to do in various ways, but an opportunity to experience opposition and examine other people's logical patterns of thought. So without winning or loosing a debate one may learn something in various ways if one examines the exchange critically. Sometimes things may need to be mulled over longer than a debate so a lack of agreement of concession maybe shouldn't be taken as a bad sign.
I do think all life shares potential traits and warm feelings are among them. One could hope there could be less bias in civil discourse but we're not all going to just get along and debating is part of that process. Also debate is a good tool for seeking out one's own biases if that is part of the intent.
But I'm not looking to get into an argument.
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: Rahz]
#25484310 - 09/24/18 01:01 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone seen that video...I think it's called God's cicada chorus? Slowed down to the equivalent of human speed (equivalency of lifespan) they are harmonising in an amazing song. Blows my mind every time. How their experience of time is probably so much different to ours.
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BrendanFlock
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So everyone perceives time differently..based on their frame of reference?
What about inertia? Inertial Frames are to the improvement of time..
Relatable differences..ARE DIVERGENT IN SURVIVAL AND ZEN..
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Duncan Rowhl
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: BrendanFlock] 2
#25487715 - 09/25/18 10:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everyone -thing lives on its own speed
This is the premise of God creating the world in '7 days', and attempted justification for him being non-immediate.
Peter 3:8–9:
‘But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.’
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redgreenvines
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: BrendanFlock]
#25488256 - 09/25/18 02:33 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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BrendanFlock said: So everyone perceives time differently..based on their frame of reference?
What about inertia? Inertial Frames are to the improvement of time..
Relatable differences..ARE DIVERGENT IN SURVIVAL AND ZEN..
oddly this is close to a view I have, that we are each perceiving time at our own sliding pace which is not always in synch with anybody else's sliding pace of time.
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Rahz
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: BlueCoyote]
#25488260 - 09/25/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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BlueCoyote said: Just want you to remember.
I don't know if there's something to debate, maybe only if that is even possible when our universe seems connected via space-time...
I think I read too much into your comment in my first reply.
A more appropriate comment might be that while we are connected via spacetime, and everyone is experiencing roughly the same passing of time, the firing of neurons doesn't happen at a particular speed. Having a concussion can delay speech response, in some cases up to 20-30 minutes. A buddy of mine is a PA and he always finds it curious when a patient with a concussion comes in and responds to questions.
Certain substances can speed up or slow down neural activity. This board's namesake certainly falls in the former category.
Having started drinking coffee only a couple years ago I can attest to it's ability to speed up response time. The army did a study showing a cup in the morning, followed by a second cup an hour later produces the most prolonged boost in response time. They even provided a chart showing performance level over an 18 hour period, response time for coffee drinkers vs non-coffee drinkers. In both cases the graph showed a lopsided bell curve. People naturally get faster as the day progresses until peaking in early afternoon and then a slow ride down til sleep.
On a different note, if there was anything worth reading in my previous comment, our ability to learn certain things can be severely restricted by bias. I think that's why we often need to make the same mistakes, and why it can take time for some things to sink in. Cognitive dissonance plays a part, caught between two contradictory ideas and unable to decide which is correct.
-------------------- rahz comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace "The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid." - Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: Rahz]
#25522249 - 10/08/18 03:25 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you so much for your answers... I'm sorry I lack some time at the moment (lol - coincidence ?) ... but I will come back at this I love you all...
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: redgreenvines]
#25522282 - 10/08/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said:
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BrendanFlock said: So everyone perceives time differently..based on their frame of reference?
What about inertia? Inertial Frames are to the improvement of time..
Relatable differences..ARE DIVERGENT IN SURVIVAL AND ZEN..
oddly this is close to a view I have, that we are each perceiving time at our own sliding pace which is not always in synch with anybody else's sliding pace of time.
Wouldn't this always technically be true due to relativity?
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redgreenvines
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Re: Everyone -thing lives on its own speed [Re: LittleDipster]
#25522328 - 10/08/18 03:54 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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only at relativistic speeds
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