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OfflinePhred
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Happy Tax Freedom Day!
    #2547761 - 04/11/04 02:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Happy Tax Freedom, Day, America! The earliest one since 1967. Damn that Bush for his stoopid tax cuts! http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxfreedomday.html

The "Happy Tax Freedom Day, England!" post will have to wait until May 30 (or June 11, depending how you look at it), though. http://www.taxfreedomday.co.uk/

Italy? In 2002, it was June 21. http://www.informer.it/magazine/redtape/4rt169.asp

And if you are a single guy living in Montreal Canada who makes the staggering sum of US $18,000 a year, your Tax Freedom Day this year is July 5. Bummer. But if you live in Toronto, it's June 24. Yay! http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/taxcalc.asp

Denmark? Hmmm... don't know what it will be for this year, but in 2001 it was Aug 14.

In Sweden... well, sad to say in Sweden there is no Tax Freedom day.

Hee hee hee! Just kidding. In Sweden it is usually near the end of August.

I'll probably forget to make separate posts celebrating the Tax Freedom Days of Canada, England, Italy, Denmark and Sweden, though, so this one will have to do.

pinky


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: Phred]
    #2547768 - 04/11/04 02:11 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn that Bush for his stoopid tax cuts!



*tax deferments


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: silversoul7]
    #2547790 - 04/11/04 02:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

silversoul7 writes:

*tax deferments

Only if JFK wins the upcoming election.

pinky


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: Phred]
    #2548232 - 04/11/04 08:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Printing more unbacked dollars to fund the war is the largest hidden tax ever. There has been no real value behind the dollar since 1964. Cutting taxes is just for show. This unrestrained printing devalues every single dollar that you own and is held to no known accounting practice. Watch ALL prices continue to go skyward, not just oil and not just because of oil.

Or do you believe that a $200,000,000,000 war and occupation comes for free? Perhaps just loose change that we just happened to have lying around even as the untouchable ("we will just borrow a little from it even though the law says it is verboten to dip in!") Social Security (and Medicare) funds are going broke?


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: Swami]
    #2548312 - 04/11/04 09:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Swami said:
Printing more unbacked dollars to fund the war is the largest hidden tax ever. There has been no real value behind the dollar since 1964. Cutting taxes is just for show. This unrestrained printing devalues every single dollar that you own and is held to no known accounting practice. Watch ALL prices continue to go skyward, not just oil and not just because of oil.





I'm glad you pointed that out, the average person has no real sense of how their currency is flucuating against the values of other currency. It sure makes a difference when traveling and using a different currency though.

I think the Bush administration wanted to weaken the dollar a little to reduce the balance of trade deficit. (By essentially putting money in the pockets rich multi-nationals that export from the US.) The dollar weakens, that means more money for exporters and less more importers.

But now the dollar is in the process of becoming too weak where as it was too strong. To sum this all up, trips out of the country cost alot more. Canadians near the border are actually coming here to shop, before it was always Americans going to Canada to shop.


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"A nation's hope of lasting peace cannot be firmly based upon any race in armaments but rather upon just relations and honest understanding with all other nations...

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed... The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people..."

President Dwight Eisenhower, 1953


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: Swami]
    #2548474 - 04/11/04 11:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup: Thanks Swami, deficit spending is just a form of hidden taxation.  The monetization of the debt increases the money supply which is a tax on EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR in circulation, those with the least disposable income are hit the hardest.  Also, as Silversoul7 has pointed out, the debt will have to be repaid from future tax receipts.

A proper determination of tax freedom day would include all debt incurred in the tax calculations.


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Re: Happy Tax Freedom Day! [Re: Evolving]
    #2549303 - 04/11/04 09:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Evolving writes:

A proper determination of tax freedom day would include all debt incurred in the tax calculations.

I don't know if the American one does, but the one for England takes it into consideration. That's why I posted two dates -- one with and one without the debt calculation.

pinky


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