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 Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools  [Re: life is good]
#25477848 - 09/21/18 12:03 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I will repeat what I posted from the other thread, just to get my point across more succinctly:
If you really think about it long and hard, there are only a handful of ways that people of different races living together will pan out over time (assuming we want the society to exist infinitely):
1. They interbreed and mix until everyone is homogeneous.
2. They separate into like-kin communities, eventually leading to inequality and civil war with only one obvious winner.
3. One tribe leaves.
Either way homogeneity or war are your only options. Homogeneity is the natural way of life. I agree with Muhammad Ali on this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Y693cSF7E
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: Intentional]
#25477853 - 09/21/18 12:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am very much speaking the truth. You are obviously a 'person of colour'. If it weren't that obvious then you might be making a sound point but all your really getting at is something like: "it's unfair, you should learn about my hardships even though I was never actually there through any of them".
On the one hand you're aligning yourself with 'people of colour' from the past that you have no idea what their true motivations were, you never met them. You simply stand with them because they were as oppressed as you feel now. Aren't you aware of hypocrisy in your tribalism?
Oh by the way to refer to yourself as a 'person of colour' or 'coloured' is actually validating the white mans terminology, he made those names for you and you accept them willingly.
i agreed and i never said i was anybody of color and please READ MY POST THOROUGHLY IF NOT DO NOT RESPOND TO ME.
i said *so called* "black/brown" people
2ndly im not saying anything is unfair or you should learn about my hardship thats not my point at all, i think you should learn about your hardships and learn about my excellence.
i align myself with my ancestors.
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along with these insane things, ...
so -- yeah there are two story arcs i know... the one is the basic issue; the second one is the people of these groups...
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: life is good]
#25477861 - 09/21/18 12:08 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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so along with the insane views espoused about 'race,' they also believe there is no gravity, moon elves descended to earth elves, buddha went to mars and had a crucifixion there... uhm, i am only remembering a few.
well thats pretty far out, im talking more along the lines of the chronological order of how we came to be.
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You believe we all originated from Africa.
All races are a mix between three main races, we didn't evolve from Africans into lighter skinned Arabians and then Asians and Europeans, 'evolution' is simply mix-breeding.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: Intentional]
#25477882 - 09/21/18 12:20 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do you know what i believe in?
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: Intentional]
#25477891 - 09/21/18 12:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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try to address the points im bringing up instead jumping to a point we havent even gotten to, unless of course you just are not up to par with the standard i set.
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I am not. You win.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: Intentional]
#25477904 - 09/21/18 12:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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#25477920 - 09/21/18 12:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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What?  No. Why? I don't know anything about you. If you ARE a racist I don't want to discuss anything with you anyway. If you are not a racist, it's a moot point. Again, I have no idea why you want to engage me on this subject, but I'm really not interested in discussing racism academically or in "debate" with you. Sorry, just not interested. Racism is not my "reality tunnel," and the very word is a misnomer since there is only one race, Human.
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but how can you say that there is only one race when we know some people on this earth carry Neanderthal DNA.
and isnt something like 90+/- % of our DNA is "Junk DNA" and scientist dont know what its there for.. lol.
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you have to study history and fit things together for yourself in context of who has filtered the story you are reading, and what was left out.
I think there is nothing more important than studying history in a balanced way. Equally study science, those two will cover everything pretty much.
I brought up the pillar of salt metaphor because it is quite common for people to rigidify as they focus on what they are leaving behind (this is not history, this is behavior) when starting to reach for new goals.
I am not threatening your intellect, merely pointing out that you could be getting fixated, frozen and possibly salty.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: redgreenvines]
#25477982 - 09/21/18 01:09 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes but you also think these "teachings" are a "basket of goodies" and good education.
i do not suppose you will explain how moon gnomes, earth being solid because of gnomes, and such are good education,
i would suppose not.
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but how can you say that there is only one race when we know some people on this earth carry Neanderthal DNA.
and isnt something like 90+/- % of our DNA is "Junk DNA" and scientist dont know what its there for.. lol.
like I said, you need also to study science, I can tell from this comment that your view of race and DNA is based upon less than is required to understand phylogenetic relations.
junk DNA is an interesting area, because it really means a few things:
{a} while it is not understood as "functional" it is bulky and shapes the overall strand in such a way that enables coordinated placement of genes in the mass so that they can be transcribed conveniently.
In this case junk means that the content does not matter much for this stretch, because useful proteins are not coded in these "spacer" sections.
{b} Or a sequence may code for proteins that are not yet being studied, Most Junk DNA is this type, only a small amount of DNA is actually studied, and many proteins have not yet been analyzed in the genome projects, or in medical or biological studies.
{c} Many genes are carried forward from evolutionary extension, and we know only a small amount about how these are active during embryological growth and differentiation - they seem atavistic or junk but may not really be junk, e.g. we may have genetics for gills and scales mixed with extra genetics for lungs and hair, but to remove one could be disastrous for the other. so not really junk.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: redgreenvines]
#25478005 - 09/21/18 01:25 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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you have to study history and fit things together for yourself in context of who has filtered the story you are reading, and what was left out.
I think there is nothing more important than studying history in a balanced way. Equally study science, those two will cover everything pretty much.
I brought up the pillar of salt metaphor because it is quite common for people to rigidify as they focus on what they are leaving behind (this is not history, this is behavior) when starting to reach for new goals.
I am not threatening your intellect, merely pointing out that you could be getting fixated, frozen and possibly salty.
i get the metaphor and i understand what you are saying.
and i think thats why so many people in America are how they are but we have to remember this has been something in the making now- that all this information would be revealed to the public, so little by little we are shifting paradigms, some people we be on board others wont.
history is big in my life as is science, and literature, i love them all and use them all to edify myself. as we all do i think. but i get what you are saying sometimes the most intellectual people lack emotional intelligence.
but on that note you cannot put up a piece of your mind for sale at the college and let them feed you their lies, as you said you have to piece certain things together yourself...
just to add im not salty, condescending? extremely. but not salty
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: life is good]
#25478008 - 09/21/18 01:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes but you also think these "teachings" are a "basket of goodies" and good education.
i do not suppose you will explain how moon gnomes, earth being solid because of gnomes, and such are good education,
i would suppose not.
I do not agree with any esoteric teachings of any kind, and do not think they belong in schools - I do not know that they are foisted on Waldorf students, but if they are it is not a good practice.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: redgreenvines]
#25478017 - 09/21/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Green7Alchemist said:
but how can you say that there is only one race when we know some people on this earth carry Neanderthal DNA.
and isnt something like 90+/- % of our DNA is "Junk DNA" and scientist dont know what its there for.. lol.
like I said, you need also to study science, I can tell from this comment that your view of race and DNA is based upon less than is required to understand phylogenetic relations.
junk DNA is an interesting area, because it really means a few things:
{a} while it is not understood as "functional" it is bulky and shapes the overall strand in such a way that enables coordinated placement of genes in the mass so that they can be transcribed conveniently.
In this case junk means that the content does not matter much for this stretch, because useful proteins are not coded in these "spacer" sections.
{b} Or a sequence may code for proteins that are not yet being studied, Most Junk DNA is this type, only a small amount of DNA is actually studied, and many proteins have not yet been analyzed in the genome projects, or in medical or biological studies.
{c} Many genes are carried forward from evolutionary extension, and we know only a small amount about how these are active during embryological growth and differentiation - they seem atavistic or junk but may not really be junk, e.g. we may have genetics for gills and scales mixed with extra genetics for lungs and hair, but to remove one could be disastrous for the other. so not really junk.
hmm... how can you draw that conclusion from just two sentences? i dont call it Junk, academia calls it Junk... that is how they classify it, so i am not the one who doesnt understand its academia lol.
i have my own theory as to what they are, i dont believe in Darwins evolution theory.
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Re: Occult, racist - Waldorf schools [Re: redgreenvines]
#25478027 - 09/21/18 01:38 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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"don't study history, study history"
simply weaponized language.
you extremely frequently say completely opposite things corresponding.
you profess you are against new age completely; then you come out and say these things are a "basket of goodies," and "good education."
you speak of science, yet you are not at all concerned with those who think that islands "swim," and things like this.
you say you are against racists; but then again you called all these "basket of goodies."
nah.
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What? No. Why? I don't know anything about you. If you ARE a racist I don't want to discuss anything with you anyway. If you are not a racist, it's a moot point. Again, I have no idea why you want to engage me on this subject, but I'm really not interested in discussing racism academically or in "debate" with you. Sorry, just not interested. Racism is not my "reality tunnel," and the very word is a misnomer since there is only one race, Human.
which is why racism doesn't exist and is a ideogram foisted in to the political sphere by dissident malcontents.
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Indeed, how could I potentially be a racist if there is only one race?
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