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 About ready to start my first cultivation 
#25457840 - 09/13/18 04:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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How's it going fellas so I am about ready to start my first grow I think I have everything except for spores I was wondering if some people could recommend some places I was going to try one of the sponsors on here that has for the most part super good reviews but I did run into a couple negative ones which doesn't mean a lot some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope but just looking for suggestions to so I don't make illadvised purchase
also what strain would you recommend it's technically second but might as well be first so easier the better but I kind of want big stupidly huge is what I'm looking for I had South Africans once many years ago maybe try those again?
BTW I did use the search bar but everything I found was really really old like when the internet first came about so yeah...
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Spore works is my go to.
Clean , professional, discreet,fast shipping and mention shroomery and get a free extra syringe.
Also the owner is a member and he's super knowledgeable.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: bishlap]
#25457861 - 09/13/18 04:45 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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We can't recommend vendors in a cultivation forum. Spores are for Microscopy only.
Searching them should show you what you're lookin for. You can organize the posts by most recent by clicking "Posted On" to re-arrange them.
Strains should really be called Varieties and they're all just as easy to grow.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: LtLurker]
#25457867 - 09/13/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay thanks guys the place the first guy mentioned is where I was going to go so that's good...
Okay so what variety would you recommend for impressive size?
Also is that vendor in the United States? I don't want to try and ship internationally....
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Golden Teacher is popular for it's fast and "easy" cultivating.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25457925 - 09/13/18 05:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I yes the website mentioned is in the 48. My go to site, never have issues and they're fast. Just wish I knew a name drop would score a free one. Dont worry about size, just worry about starting because youll be using spores more than likely and youll have variety and depends on your sub as well. People say straw makes monsters for example.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: WoodyCider]
#25457966 - 09/13/18 05:35 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Considering I'm just starting out I am going to use PF tek some of the dudes on here recommended that is a good place to start and as I get more comfortable with what I'm doing I will move up to larger and more exciting methods...
How do you mention this website on said vendors website? I typed it into the coupon code area and I just got invalid...
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Well ive been spending hours researching and im in a debate with myself I read a very long thing about using liquid culture which seems like a pretty good idea but then I read another really long thing about using agar what would you recommend? I'm just starting out like I say but neither of them seem very hard I in fact have a pressure canner and I think you can buy everything right at the store in town for the agar if not Amazon has it for $15 for a big bag....
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Most cube varieties are very easy to cultivate, and your larger fruit will come in subsequent flushes
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25458900 - 09/14/18 03:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you are going to continue in this hobby you'll definitely want to learn agar and possibly LC sometime down the road but pf-tek is a great place to start. It's pretty easy and you'll have weeks to work on your sterile technique and shop for supplies while you're staring at your jars. You also have other options once you've learned a little more like brf cakes to bulk or brf cake to grain.
You could even save a few drops of Spore solution and get started with agar while your cakes are colonizing. PF Tek allows you to skip a couple steps and get growing right away.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25462918 - 09/15/18 08:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I'm thinking I want to inoculate 20 half pint jars how many Spore syringes do you feel I would need for that? I was going to stack them
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Neowynd8]
#25463000 - 09/15/18 09:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome for some reason I assumed it would be higher than that
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A drop or two of solution per hole is more than sufficient.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Everyone]
#25475891 - 09/20/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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im about finishing pcing my brf cakes but by the time their cool it will be way too late to inoculate so ill have to do it tomorrow after work like 24 hours maybe a few more will i run a greater risk of contam just leaving them in the pc tell i get home?
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It'll be fine.
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You should be fine Bohab, I leave mine in their all the time when I forget to do in the morning after but you should be fine. Cheers -TheLostBoys
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: TheLostBoys]
#25475997 - 09/20/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25476023 - 09/20/18 05:32 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd say 2 syringes. I remember way back when I did 18 cakes with 2. Youll likely fuck up and squirt too much in once or twice when the syringe gets clogged.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25476041 - 09/20/18 05:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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one other thing im not sure i completely reached optimum field capacity i did a 4:2:2 ratio so 4 cups verm 2 water 2 brf i checked after mixing and couldnt get any water to drip out, but it was definitely moist and clumped like clay in my hand... i thought about adding more water but didnt i figured slightly less was better than too much....
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I'd say 2 syringes. I remember way back when I did 18 cakes with 2. Youll likely fuck up and squirt too much in once or twice when the syringe gets clogged.
i ended up doing 16 thats all my pc could fit. but ive changed my mind on how i plan to fruit im going to use my brf cakes to a mono instead of just fruiting the cakes.... so i figure half golden teacher and the other half Malabar (vendor chosen) into two tubs some of the guys had success with just a single jar to tub. i was just going to use however many good ones i get.... hopefully 6 each type....
i tried to make cakes like 10 years ago with this method i didn't do any research so my spore vendor ripped me off but my jars sat in a paper bag on a shelf for 10 months and never grew any contam so i must have done something right....
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Here's what I did on my first grow. You'll likely have one jar that's way out in front. Prep some WBS or rye grains and sacrifice that jar for G2G. It's the fast track to bulk.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25476137 - 09/20/18 06:22 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just play it out, take notes, and make adjustments next run... don't attempt to add moisture
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25476157 - 09/20/18 06:36 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I still suggest reserving one jar for G2G. If you EFF up your bulk grow you still have grains ready for the next round. Birth a fully colonized jar in a SAB and dissect pea size chunks to inoculate a shitload of prepped rye grain for bulk.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: bishlap]
#25476163 - 09/20/18 06:38 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spore works is my go to.
Clean , professional, discreet,fast shipping and mention shroomery and get a free extra syringe.
Also the owner is a member and he's super knowledgeable.
You get a free syringe? Damnit! How did I not know this a few months back 
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Quote:
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I still suggest reserving one jar for G2G. If you EFF up your bulk grow you still have grains ready for the next round. Birth a fully colonized jar in a SAB and dissect pea size chunks to inoculate a shitload of prepped rye grain for bulk.
thats a good idea ill have to read standard procedures.... THANKS MAN!Quote:
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Spore works is my go to.
Clean , professional, discreet,fast shipping and mention shroomery and get a free extra syringe.
Also the owner is a member and he's super knowledgeable.
You get a free syringe? Damnit! How did I not know this a few months back
I sure did he sent me Malabar i was actually looking where i can post a positive review? i talked to him on the phone dude was super friendly also... i probably wont consider going else where.
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i dont know how to fav a thread so ill post it here to find it later....
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24945782/fpart/15/vc/1#24945782
this is what im going to do....
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It's the little finger with string tied in a bow at the bottom of each post in the thread... Nate kills it using cakes for spawn
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25479185 - 09/21/18 08:39 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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i might be paranoid but i think my jars dried out some during pcing.... the top layer of jars especially the sub closest to the lid shrank about a quarter inch and appears quite dry i inoculated anyway about half a syringe over 8 jars the bottom layer didnt seem nearly as dry as the top ones where but still shrunk some now im in a panic.... is that normal or did i pc too long? 90 minish at 14 psi.... the pc itself had almost the exact same amount of water when done.... also the dry verm layer fell around the sides of the more dry ones....
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25481597 - 09/22/18 07:57 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I tried to take a photo but my phone is straight garbage so couldn't see shit... im not gonna sweat it and just see how things go it seems to not be as bad today.... whats a recommended heat it have them sit at? it was like 64 in my place last night so i left them in my sab and set them next to the mostly broken baseboard heater (it only pushes minimal heat...) it got like 65 out today now my place is 76 and inside my sab was way hot so i moved it... the vastly fluctuating temps in my place is something ive been thinkin about since way before i started this hobby again.... once full winter hits ill have to figure something out... during the summer my place got as high as 113....
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I wouldn't stress about your temps. If you can live in it so can they. I've had success in summer with temps swinging up to 90's during the day. And in winter with temps reaching 55(after that became an issue).
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25488611 - 09/25/18 04:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I still suggest reserving one jar for G2G. If you EFF up your bulk grow you still have grains ready for the next round. Birth a fully colonized jar in a SAB and dissect pea size chunks to inoculate a shitload of prepped rye grain for bulk.
when you say a shitload how many do you mean roughly? i will use qt jars for this, will i re-initiate all my beginning stage contamination risk again? and last besides the internet where do you buy rye grains? the only garden store that i know for a fact carries it is 100 miles away....
things seem to be moving along rapidly so i should start preparing i dont think ill have a full month like i originally thought...
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Might find it at a feed store: tractor supply maybe?
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25489984 - 09/26/18 08:02 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Handling grains is always a contamination risk but thats how this hobby works. Do your best to keep your work sterile.
I buy my Rye in 50 lb bags off Amazon.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25490770 - 09/26/18 02:39 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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has anybody actually tried to spawn a brown rice flour to grain? i searched and really found nothing but one guy asking if it was possible and the response was too high risk... but that was like 17 year old post...
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Not if it's been birthed in open air... unless a sample was taken from the inside of the cake, within a SAB... like cloning a fruit to agar: except a cake to grain... I wouldn't risk with a cake that was spent, or had obvious external contamination... especially bacteria
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25490910 - 09/26/18 03:37 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you can keep it in the sab, you can attempt a slurry. Sounds like what you're describing to me.
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has anybody actually tried to spawn a brown rice flour to grain? i searched and really found nothing but one guy asking if it was possible and the response was too high risk... but that was like 17 year old post...
My very 1st grain jars were inoculated from a brf cake. Birthed in a SAB and dissected into 10 WBS jars. Went perfectly.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: LtLurker]
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has anybody actually tried to spawn a brown rice flour to grain? i searched and really found nothing but one guy asking if it was possible and the response was too high risk... but that was like 17 year old post...
My very 1st grain jars were inoculated from a brf cake. Birthed in a SAB and dissected into 10 WBS jars. Went perfectly.
right on im going to try wbs over grain for this first run just because it so much easier to find. from here on out im just going agar to grains after this wraps up im not a fan of the BRF method...Quote:
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if you can keep it in the sab, you can attempt a slurry. Sounds like what you're describing to me.
well i guess that works out i have yet to take them out the SAB (its warmer and i feel cleaner) aside to look for contam.
all in all everything is going well i got perfect outgrowing lines from inoculation points down on every GT jar and 5 or 6 outta 8 for the malabar.
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Your jars should be filtered, and not subject to contamination... so long as you birth in the SAB, you'll be fine
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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Your jars should be filtered, and not subject to contamination... so long as you birth in the SAB, you'll be fine
 Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Caps got what i meant.
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#25491590 - 09/26/18 08:09 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I must've got really lucky. That was even back before I converted my glovebox (gasp) into an SAB. Birthed the cake onto a saucer I had wiped down with alcohol and cut it up with a (sanitized) steak knife. Method wasn't bad but my technique sucked back then. Got really lucky for a long time before my screw ups started showing their face. Just the other day I did a 3rd agar transfer and the new plate has contam splatters all over it. Dafuk???
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25493616 - 09/27/18 05:04 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I must've got really lucky. That was even back before I converted my glovebox (gasp) into an SAB. Birthed the cake onto a saucer I had wiped down with alcohol and cut it up with a (sanitized) steak knife. Method wasn't bad but my technique sucked back then. Got really lucky for a long time before my screw ups started showing their face. Just the other day I did a 3rd agar transfer and the new plate has contam splatters all over it. Dafuk???
so what has been changed since then? cutting it it small chunks with a cheese grader is basically what i figured on doing ill have to do it for my bulk anyway. got any pointers?
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The cheese grater is fine when you're spawning cakes to bulk because you're doing it in open-air there's no need for sterility just cleanliness. Inoculating grains with brf cake is entirely different. Sterility is vital and cheese grading inside a SAB would be nearly impossible to stay sterile IMO.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25493671 - 09/27/18 05:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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It'd take forever to grate moving as slow as you'd need to to avoid disturbing the air and kicking up contaminants ... I'd just break it in half, and pull a 1/4" pebble off with sterilized tweezers... wouldn't take much, and could spread it out across numerous grain jars
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25493687 - 09/27/18 05:35 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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okay thats what ill do then...
i found this its kind of an old post but i imagine not much has changed.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10648149
after reading through the thread there a few things i would change like using a bucket for the coir sterilization etc...
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However, just try to avoid unnecessary vectors for contamination... sterilize tools, slow and steady movement: LI is adding vectors... I'd get confident in my sterile technique first
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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so my jars have some slight condensation right where the mycelium is growing. i dont have any off colors all the growth in all the jars looks exactly like this photo, some more some less depending, but this jar has the worst of it.
should i be concerned? because i am... i DO have micro-pore tape over the holes which i know your not supposed to do these days but I'm certain my dry layer failed the majority just fell around the sides. dont worry i take bad news very poorly (day 8 if that matters)
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Condensation is ok. As long as youre seeing bright white, not any grey, yellow or green you're good.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25502645 - 10/01/18 07:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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the growth is a little creamy looking, could indicate bacteria, could be simply too moist... excess moisture almost always ends up bacterial IME, but you'll likely get fruit... once birthed, proper conditions will help hold infection at bay... be sure not to overhydrate the cakes after birth, allowing evaporation to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning and aid in contamination control
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25503287 - 10/01/18 12:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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the growth is a little creamy looking, could indicate bacteria, could be simply too moist... excess moisture almost always ends up bacterial IME, but you'll likely get fruit... once birthed, proper conditions will help hold infection at bay... be sure not to overhydrate the cakes after birth, allowing evaporation to occur between mistings to stimulate pinning and aid in contamination control
the plan was to use them as spawn for a coir verm mono. 7 jars each 1 to 1 ratio in a 20 or 40 qt tub. i was going to sacrifice a jar of each for grains.
im sure its the temp fluctuations in my place thats causing the issues but aside from buying a house that isnt 150 years old i dont think theres too much i can do about that the furnace allows it to drop about 6 degrees before it kicks in. theres a way to adjust the drop but its a rental and i would rather have the fluctuations rather than a burned out blower because it ran 24/7.
the bacterial is something i wouldn't know what to look for at this point. mold seems obvious but bacteria is something ill probably have to see to know.
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so i got some interesting changes since i last posted...
1. the malabar mycelium is growing up the side of the jar and on the the underside of the lid... its quite crazy looking like veins of white. also some are pinning "i think" inside the jar looks like tiny mushrooms straight up from the center and edges... their NOT fully colonized. i would try to post a photo but i can barely tell with my eyes let alone a photo.
2. i have small black/amber spots where the jar bends on the bottom doesn't look like mold it appears like cig tar or resin i think its part of my stupid failed dry verm layer that fell around the sides. its in three of the 16 i was gonna treat it like contam. its not connected or touching the mycelium or sub it almost appears to be a part of the jar. if i didnt know better i would say its stuck in the mold of the glass... its probably some kind of bacteria from the moisture. sucks ass but hey 13 out of 16 isn't so bad for my first shot.
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Bacterial yes... IMO... it's stress fruiting from contamination... as far as the mycelium is concerned, it's fully colonized, bc the rest is contaminated and not available... furthermore, senses the infection and tries to get spores away from it asap
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25515817 - 10/05/18 08:03 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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heres a photo of the tar looking crap.... cant see much....
and this is the growing up the jar
what recommended? i put a lot of effort and about $200 theres a large part of me that hopes i can salvage them in some sort of way.... if not its not all of them just a few so far....
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And you can start over? 200 on what? Stuff you can re-use mostly?I hope... looks like metabolites, just wait it out, it is what it is right now
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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And you can start over? 200 on what? Stuff you can re-use mostly?I hope... looks like metabolites, just wait it out, it is what it is right now
yes all stuff i can reuse the $200 includes the pc... im going to take questionable ones out and place them somewhere else. what would have caused these issues? so i can keep this from happening next round?
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No need to isolate during colonization, what the dry verm layer is for... IMO/E typically bacteria is a result of excess moisture... they may still fruit, and if no mold is present, no need to separate if fruiting as cakes... will want to spawn separately if going bulk with them
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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No need to isolate during colonization, what the dry verm layer is for... IMO/E typically bacteria is a result of excess moisture... they may still fruit, and if no mold is present, no need to separate if fruiting as cakes... will want to spawn separately if going bulk with them
Hey THANKS for your help dude!! im going to keep an eye on them if it doesnt get worse ill just build a small SGFC and fruit the bad ones that way and by the time its ready if i have any good ones ill try to bulk them. could i just bulk both verities in the same tub? i should still be able to tell them apart they seem quite different looking form the photos ive seen. i haven't seen anything that looks like mold just the bacteria issues i held hope but i also knew that the condensation was going to cause me a heart ache....
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Might consider Mateah's humidity chamber ... requires no modification, and seems a lot more noob friendly... though IMO/E, bulk is much easier and less stressful than cakes
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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Might consider Mateah's humidity chamber ... requires no modification, and seems a lot more noob friendly... though IMO/E, bulk is much easier and less stressful than cakes
I KNOW thats why i wanted to bulk among other reasons i work 12 hours a day i dont have time to mist multiple times a day and things of that nature... after careful consideration ive decided im just going to fruit all the cakes as cakes for this run and get a bag or rye off the internet i figure if i can get at least even a quarter off all 16 it paid for itself in coolness for me and my wife for an evening.
i read that its not recommended to use MS for grain? i still have half of each verity left from before i could also get a thing of agar if thats the best route?
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Its recommended not to use syringes... drop one drop of solution to agar and clean a culture first... but MS syringe straight to grain was general practice for a long time... but when agar is so cheap (and actually fun) no reason not to take the step... will take maybe 2 weeks longer, but could save months invested in a failed tub, not to mention the extra resources
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25521307 - 10/08/18 07:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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okay cool thats what im doing this time then this shot is my first and last time with BRF... agar is only like $5 for a 5lb bag of powder same with rye and i have free two day shipping so things hopefully should start looking up.
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Yeah, I think you'd enjoy agar to grain to bulk. Goodluck and let us know if this cake still succeeds.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Sellith]
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Multi-spore is generally contaminated. You may want to consider fruiting the cakes and cloning early pins to agar.
Getting your cultures clean before going bulk will save tons of frustration.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Spore-hunter]
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Multi-spore is generally contaminated. You may want to consider fruiting the cakes and cloning early pins to agar.
Getting your cultures clean before going bulk will save tons of frustration.
im not really worried about the spores themselves being contaminated i got them from a really reputable vendor also if the spores where smoked i would know by this point.
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Fruiting is generally done in open air, so prints are usually dirty... absence of visual evidence does not equate evidence of absence
Brf cakes are notoriously resistant: hence the suggestion as a starting point
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25530188 - 10/11/18 03:17 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey so i was watching a video on here and a dude used the screw top ziploc plastic containers for his grain, if that works that would be pretty cool jars are getting harder to find due to time of year.... and shipping them is just too expensive but a box of 10 of those plastic containers is like $6 if thats still a thing that hasent been proven inadequate its something that i would be greatly interested in...
on a side note the bacteria issues im having must not be as bad as originally thought the spots havent changed in the last 7 or so days but the mycelium continues to grow 5 jars are 90% or more colonized the rest are all over 50%... on the last post with pics not a single jar was past 50 and most 25 or under. i was depressed but now im excited again. 
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hey so i was watching a video on here and a dude used the screw top ziploc plastic containers for his grain, if that works that would be pretty cool jars are getting harder to find due to time of year.... and shipping them is just too expensive but a box of 10 of those plastic containers is like $6 if thats still a thing that hasent been proven inadequate its something that i would be greatly interested in...
on a side note the bacteria issues im having must not be as bad as originally thought the spots havent changed in the last 7 or so days but the mycelium continues to grow 5 jars are 90% or more colonized the rest are all over 50%... on the last post with pics not a single jar was past 50 and most 25 or under. i was depressed but now im excited again.
I've grown a shitload out of twist lock quart jars but they do get beat up after a while. I'm switching back to glass as I finish them out. Clean spawn is worth the money.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
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hey so i was watching a video on here and a dude used the screw top ziploc plastic containers for his grain, if that works that would be pretty cool jars are getting harder to find due to time of year.... and shipping them is just too expensive but a box of 10 of those plastic containers is like $6 if thats still a thing that hasent been proven inadequate its something that i would be greatly interested in...
on a side note the bacteria issues im having must not be as bad as originally thought the spots havent changed in the last 7 or so days but the mycelium continues to grow 5 jars are 90% or more colonized the rest are all over 50%... on the last post with pics not a single jar was past 50 and most 25 or under. i was depressed but now im excited again.
I've grown a shitload out of twist lock quart jars but they do get beat up after a while. I'm switching back to glass as I finish them out. Clean spawn is worth the money.
most definitely im also ordering agar powder and using that first before i even waste more time. the plastic containers seemed like a good idea for my trail and error stages of growing then in the future just progressively accumulate more various size jars. even if they are a single use still cheap tell i can get more glass from the stores.
am i going to have issues with them melting during sterilization?
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Ziplock quart twist locks are PP5 but I have a couple that are warped from lots of cycles.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
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Ziplock quart twist locks are PP5 but I have a couple that are warped from lots of cycles.
well as it turns out the ones i was looking at where the wrong ones the twist n' loc are more expensive than glass jars it was $13 for 4 on amazon so fuck it i got some extra half pint from before ill just use those.
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so im going to start agar tomorrow is there anything i should know before hand? im going to use pastys easy agar plates and tek. obviously ive used the search bar a lot finding info just thought there might be a personal experience that somebody might wanna add.... also there's a shit load of conflicting information for agar in the searches....
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I prefer to pour my own petri dishes: there are pros and cons to either: matter of preference... with no pours, there's no risk of contamination prior to use, but the high wall container makes it a bit awkward, and IME, seems to be more of a PITA... plus, pouring my own makes me a scientist, and I've only had one plate (of hundreds) contaminate from the pour (don't trip and SAB kids), and they're a WHOLE lot easier to work with/ can be opened and closed much quicker
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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I agree, using real petri's has been easier and more reliable than pasty plates imo.
If you're gonna start with pasty plates, something I learned I don't see mentioned a lot is to store them upside down (at a slight slant if filter in lid) after pc'ing. They get a lot of condenstion and this will cause it to pool on the lid. Open upside down in the SAB to dump the excess before working it.
Too much loose water on a plate will spread around any contams it contacts and potentially ruin workable dishes.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: LtLurker]
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I put my holes for them in the side near the rim and covered with micropore tape... never had any issues, but only did them once before petris, and once since... Just awkward and leaves the culture exposed longer than I'm comfortable with: even turning them to the side ... leaving them to cool in the PC over night will cut condensation in half, but still much more to contend with than with warm-poured petris ime 
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: LtLurker]
#25540171 - 10/15/18 06:44 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks fellas i wish i would have asked before i made and got my order i would have just sprung for the real petris i dont wanna wait for another shipment so yeah... next time...
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I agree, using real petri's has been easier and more reliable than pasty plates imo.
If you're gonna start with pasty plates, something I learned I don't see mentioned a lot is to store them upside down (at a slight slant if filter in lid) after pc'ing. They get a lot of condenstion and this will cause it to pool on the lid. Open upside down in the SAB to dump the excess before working it.
Too much loose water on a plate will spread around any contams it contacts and potentially ruin workable dishes.
i need some clarification on this you store them upside down while colonizing? i read both during my research some guys say upside down some say the nutrients drain or something like that and to never do it... also how do i store them during colonizing? one guy says just out in the open another says the fridge so ive been having issues locking down the exact process...
ill put very small holes in the side rather than in the lids i also read both on that....
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Nutrients drain? Sounds asinine IMO  I store regular petris that have condensation upside down with no issues
1/4" is pretty standard for any GE port
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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You're not losing nutrients, that's ridiculous.
I specifically meant to store them upside down after you pc and let them solidify, but before putting some culture or spores to it. This is when the condensation will accumulate and puddle.
How you store while colonizing is personal choice I guess. I've seen people say in a real lab they leave the plates upside down all the time and work them that way. For our purposes it may not be ideal because you're probably gonna want to check your plates often and flipping it back and forth all the time.
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Question for you guys,
what is your preferences on vermiculite grain size? since its micaeous i would figure a finer texture would retain more water in its flat sheet-like layers and be overall more efficient to the life cycle of mycelium?
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what is your preferences on vermiculite grain size? since its micaeous i would figure a finer texture would retain more water in its flat sheet-like layers and be overall more efficient to the life cycle of mycelium?
Fine.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: LtLurker]
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I truly came to check preview my signature seeing as there isn't a way to check that.
also, is general discussion not open for general discussion? lol
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Don't know why we don't have one of these, but apparently people get fussy when posts are "off topic" in a given thread. So, here's a thread where nothing is off topic as long as you can somehow draw a connection between it and cultivation.
So, if that's all, and I think it is, go ahead and cut loose.
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No it's not, this is The Ultimate Bohab's "About ready to start my first cultivation" thread. Like it says every where.
This is not the OTD thread or the general discussion thread.
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Question for you guys,
what is your preferences on vermiculite grain size? since its micaeous i would figure a finer texture would retain more water in its flat sheet-like layers and be overall more efficient to the life cycle of mycelium?
I use coir only...
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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so i found out an interesting bit of information today... according to the stock at the wal-mart and the genius working there they dont make glad mini "rounds" anymore only mini squares. all the round ones are huge. so i got squares should essentially be the same just more of a PITA to work with. also they dont make compact florescent light bulbs i wanted to get one of the sunlight ones i used to use for growing reef in the beginning stages for the BRF jars im still trying to fruit. according to the genius they contained mercury and are no longer in production. i got 2500K led, only one they had. yes my lifes exciting like that so much in fact i felt it necessary to share pointless babble with you guys....
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2500k is the highest they had?... Strange
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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2500k is the highest they had?... Strange
yeah i looked at everyone the one i got is 2700 but all the rest are 2500 and there was a lot all the same led or standard incandescent but its walmart so they probably had the good ones hidden by the bathroom stuff.
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That's a ways from optimal 6500k, but better than darkness I suppose
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That's a ways from optimal 6500k, but better than darkness I suppose
yup my thoughts exactly ill just put them by a sunny window so the bulb will just be backup...
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i see what you guys where saying about serious condensation i tried to dump it out but was also trying to work quickly so they didnt sit open for any period of time. its pretty thick on the sides i cant even see inside....
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25545117 - 10/17/18 04:01 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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im spawning most of my cakes to bulk today i changed my mind again... easy to do it seems... anyway should i put them into fruiting conditions immediately? im using bods unmodified tub tek some of the guys said to wait tell 80% but the op said he just starts fruiting right away, but thats also grain spawn...
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I fruit from spawn..
Preference, and practice... your version of "feild capacity" at prep, your local climate, the degree of imperfect-ness the lid fits, spawn ratio and countless other details play a HUGE role in what will work best for you and your environment IMO... just have to play to see what fits... maybe run your first tub introducing fruiting conditions at spawn, and a second fruiting at 50-80%... either way, I highly recommend walking away from it for 4 days... this let's it get started well undisturbed... also, I generally don't see surface moisture until a day or two after full colonization, and avoid misting prior to this point (the natural appearance of surface moisture)
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
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I fruit from spawn..
Preference, and practice... your version of "feild capacity" at prep, your local climate, the degree of imperfect-ness the lid fits, spawn ratio and countless other details play a HUGE role in what will work best for you and your environment IMO... just have to play to see what fits... maybe run your first tub introducing fruiting conditions at spawn, and a second fruiting at 50-80%... either way, I highly recommend walking away from it for 4 days... this let's it get started well undisturbed... also, I generally don't see surface moisture until a day or two after full colonization, and avoid misting prior to this point (the natural appearance of surface moisture)
excellent that works out because im doing another in a week or two with the malabar which isnt quite ready so ill let that one hit 75 or so.... i eyeballed the coir verm mix i was having trouble measuring it but i figure a 1 to 1 or 1 to 1.5 is about what i got going. its in the living room so ill just eyeball it from a distance.
oh and the light bulb thing i was talking about yesterday is not true (i figured, theres a reason dude worked at walmart) home depot had shelves of all different types. they do have a big warning on them tho so he was right in some sort of way.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25557176 - 10/22/18 07:27 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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im going to order petris today and maybe a bag of the light malt powder and try that is there anything i should look for or not forget when ordering? the cheap plastic petris okay? or should i spring for the glass its an $8 price difference.
the condensation in the pasty plates is still just as wicked as the first day. i could maybe have something growing but it wouldn't matter because i cant see anything. i have them upside down now...
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Plastic is fine... agar, plates, malt, scalpel... torch?
May be able to back light the pasty plates to see any growth... but difficult to discern mycelium from contamination
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25564003 - 10/24/18 04:18 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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whats a time frame for the fruit at spawn tub obviously conditions play a factor just general? i would say its 60% colonized but it was almost all in the first 4 days now it seems to have slowed... its only day 7 so im not sweating it or anything, but you know how it is over thinking things first few runs....
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Typically pins in 12-20 days, fruit within a week to 10 days after that IME... conditions and genetics varying
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25581881 - 10/31/18 01:51 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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in the end it seems that everything is going to work out, i kinda botched the first tub but it still has pins all over mostly around the edges but none on the sides the second one i used less sub and didnt put an extra layer and its 100% colonized in 5 days havent put it into fruiting conditions yet i read that if you let it sit its supposed to increase potency...
is 140 degree dehydrator too hot? i bought a presto but it only has one heat setting.
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Potency is genetics, not conditions... I dehydrate at 165°F for 24hrs with no issues... it's been suggested that heat destroys enzymes inside the fruit that breakdown psilocybin and psilocin over time, and is actually beneficial to long term storage
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25589944 - 11/03/18 07:51 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I JUST HARVESTED MY FIRST FLUSH!! i was hoping to wait tell monday so i didnt have to do it on a work night but... yeah this morning when i left for work the veil was starting to tear when i got home 14 hours later they had doubled in size and started spitting spores all over so yup.
i cut them out with a knife rather than ripping them out of the sub are the stumps going to cause me issues?
i also have a few large clusters growing on the sides from the bottom of the sub any recommendations on how to get them out?
the sub pulled away from the walls about half an inch to an inch i was going bottom water how much water should i use?
i tried to take a clone from one of the really nice looking ones i couldnt find a tek to save my life so i just cut a bit from the center and put it on some agar plates that ive had in a bowl for a few weeks i dont even know if thats right but i couldnt find much...
okay thats about all im not going to lie fellas im EXCITED!! there was multiple times i thought i smoked my jars/tub in the end it worked just fine...
I WANNA THANK Caps McGee FOR ALL THE HELP AND THE RAPID RESPONSE!! You seem like a really cool guy and if i knew you personally i would shake your hand and say THANKS DUDE!!
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: CzM8]
#25590084 - 11/03/18 08:47 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pics or it didn't happen
too paranoid....
but regardless got any input for the questions?
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Mycelium will consume stumps with no risk of contamination IME... fill the tub with water to float the sub and thus will also serve to rehydrate for second flush... You can upload photos directly here, it'll delete your exif data.... You're very welcome brother man, that's why I'm here
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25608643 - 11/12/18 07:10 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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i need a good LME agar recipe i was having trouble finding one. ive found it in the past but cant now that i need it.
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I use 9g agar and 9g LME for 500ml of water (standard recipe for MEA is 20g agar, 20g powdered malt (light or dark) to 1 liter of water)for transfers, and I've cut agar back to 5g per 500ml of water for spore germination and A2G transfer plates
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10/10/500 is the standard recipe for agar.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Caps McGee]
#25609111 - 11/12/18 10:29 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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been doing 10/10/500, might dial it back when for ones going to wbs, to get it to get more rhizo and hungry than it has been... so it tears through the wbs a bit quicker...
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: ithikuss]
#25614536 - 11/14/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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okay cool THANKS!!
can i sterilize my agar along with my grains? im making agar for clone transfers but i was going to do my grains at the same time will the 2 2 1/2 hour sterilization be too long? pour method
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By most accounts, yes, that's too long, otherwise you risk caramelizing the sugars. But you can turn off the stove at 45, remove the agar when it's safe, and resume the rest of the cycle.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: stareatclouds]
#25642625 - 11/27/18 12:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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so my next venture is growing some dicks are regular penis envy the same as ape as far as potency? and there anything special to cultivate them over a normal cube? besides obvious clean, grain, mono...
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so my next venture is growing some dicks are regular penis envy the same as ape as far as potency? and there anything special to cultivate them over a normal cube? besides obvious clean, grain, mono...
Patience (they're very slow) and they like a casing. IME potency is good on all PE varieties. I like to think the casing also acts as a Tam barrier while waiting for pinning since they're so slow but that could just be in my mind. Nothing to back it up.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: Grimsweeper]
#25653775 - 12/03/18 04:22 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats a good casing? ive seen lots of different things you can use... i used coir last time...
i have a grain jar thats way ahead of the others 90% the others at 40% or so i assume its fine to let it sit fully colonized for the week or however long it takes for the others to catch up...
can i change the name of this thread now that its been going for some time? its no longer my first cultivation and it makes more sense to just post my short random questions here rather than new thread for one post answers... general discussion has to may different questions all at once.
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whats a good casing? ive seen lots of different things you can use... i used coir last time...
i have a grain jar thats way ahead of the others 90% the others at 40% or so i assume its fine to let it sit fully colonized for the week or however long it takes for the others to catch up...
can i change the name of this thread now that its been going for some time? its no longer my first cultivation and it makes more sense to just post my short random questions here rather than new thread for one post answers... general discussion has to may different questions all at once.
Spawn or expand that bitch. Don't let your bottom bitch sit in the corner waiting for the others to catch up!
Yeah, you should probably just close this tread out and start a new ones as needed questions...
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: CzM8]
#25654285 - 12/03/18 10:59 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use pasteurized Jiffy Mix because I'm lazy and it meets the requirements that most people recommend for PE casings.
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Re: About ready to start my first cultivation [Re: CzM8]
#25656662 - 12/04/18 11:34 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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whats a good casing? ive seen lots of different things you can use... i used coir last time...
i have a grain jar thats way ahead of the others 90% the others at 40% or so i assume its fine to let it sit fully colonized for the week or however long it takes for the others to catch up...
can i change the name of this thread now that its been going for some time? its no longer my first cultivation and it makes more sense to just post my short random questions here rather than new thread for one post answers... general discussion has to may different questions all at once.
Spawn or expand that bitch. Don't let your bottom bitch sit in the corner waiting for the others to catch up!
Yeah, you should probably just close this tread out and start a new ones as needed questions...
shit if i dont bulk them all its going to mess up my ratio... i only have 4 quarts total i had a jar contam... why will the extra week maybe less make that much of a difference? im not arguing just curious...
To what purpose? the only reason i can see to make new threads for single answer questions is to clutter up the cultivation wall...
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Ratios don't need to be exact... just a guideline, and from 1:1 to 1:4, quite a margin for discrepancy
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