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True high pressure fog for mushrooms from pressure washer (kits available) * 8
    #25448049 - 09/09/18 04:01 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

If you need a Kit contact me!! Kit now hooks up by a garden hose. No need to tap into your plumbing!


Hi everyone

I cut out all the BS it was not important and too long of a read.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 2
    #25448076 - 09/09/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Cue for the Shiter Poohba to enter...


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 *DELETED* [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 4
    #25452216 - 09/11/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: VroomerMcZoomers] * 1
    #25452279 - 09/11/18 12:41 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Cue for the Shiter Poohba to enter...




I am not sure what that is supposed to mean. But I assume he don't think it works. I will put another video in the original post of it running and how everything is hooked together.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25452821 - 09/11/18 04:59 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That's really pretty interesting, never thought of utilizing a pressure washer. I hope it's not close to a bedroom, that noise every 10 minutes would be horrible! Is the pressure washer too high wattage to plug into your humidity controller?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #25452970 - 09/11/18 05:59 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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That's really pretty interesting, never thought of utilizing a pressure washer. I hope it's not close to a bedroom, that noise every 10 minutes would be horrible! Is the pressure washer too high wattage to plug into your humidity controller?




LOL I was just working on this. I am going to build a sound reducing box for the pressure washer. It is right under my bedroom.

The pressure washer takes 11.5 amps at least the one I got. The Humidity controller is rated at 10 amps. So I have an outlet connected to a 15 amp relay so the only amperage going through the humidity controller is what the relay uses which is almost none. I looked up the 15 amp non latching relay I wanted on...

https://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Relays/_/N-5g31

and then found it on ebay or amazon for 1/2 price

I discus using the relay in the second video.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25453190 - 09/11/18 07:31 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty slick, guess I didn't see the 2nd video when I posted. How long have you been running this room?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #25453223 - 09/11/18 07:42 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I have only been Running the room for about 4 days plus I ran it for a day empty. I was afraid of putting bags in there before testing it. So a total of 5 days. I am interested in seeing how long the pressure washer holds up. But that's why I bought the 4 year plan to cover it if it breaks. Then their are other options to get it replaced for free that I won't go into here. But if you use your imagination I am sure you can figure it out.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 *DELETED* [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25460151 - 09/14/18 04:01 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 *DELETED* [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25473687 - 09/19/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25473722 - 09/19/18 08:21 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

How is she holding up?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #25473856 - 09/19/18 09:06 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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How is she holding up?




She is holding up awesomely. Easily the best thing I have ever done. I would do it again in a heartbeat!!

Especially since someone Wrote up a tek on how to do it. Remind me to thank that man. He is awesome. LOL

I don't think a lot of people are interested in this. Barely any response.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25473899 - 09/19/18 09:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hell yeah. I like it, good work man.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Changa Alchemist] * 1
    #25473906 - 09/19/18 09:30 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Hell yeah. I like it, good work man.




Thank you good to see someone appreciate what I have done. I thought I would get a lot more response. But there has been almost none.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25473961 - 09/19/18 09:52 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'll be honest. I skimmed it the first time with it being so thick. Then I saw your post about how people weren't interested and you do have videos of it. I watched the video, then decided I had to really read through this.


It's awesome. I book marked it for future use. I'm sure people will come around over time.. it's aimed more at the commercial grower so it could take some time but really man, good job for taking the time and money to put something like this together, especially for the price.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Changa Alchemist] * 1
    #25473981 - 09/19/18 09:58 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, I'll be honest. I skimmed it the first time with it being so thick. Then I saw your post about how people weren't interested and you do have videos of it. I watched the video, then decided I had to really read through this.


It's awesome. I book marked it for future use. I'm sure people will come around over time.. it's aimed more at the commercial grower so it could take some time but really man, good job for taking the time and money to put something like this together, especially for the price.




Thanks man now I don't feel stupid for posting it in the 1st place. I might have deleted it if you didn't comment. I was thinking about it.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25503732 - 10/01/18 03:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

No dont delete it man! Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention! You got no idea in damm gratfull

If i build this ill be posting pics

How many times do you run this a day to keesp the humidity up? Just thinking about the power bill with a 2kw pressure washer, besides that im pretty set on building this tbh


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mindblowing] * 1
    #25503809 - 10/01/18 03:52 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

As far as how many times I run it? I don't know. It runs from a willhi humidity controller. The controller is set to turn on at 90% humidity and go off at 93% humidity after it turns off the humidity continues to rise to 97% humidity.

It runs for 10 to 15 seconds every 12 minutes. I think this could be reduced with more misters. But I don't want bags getting wet or puddles in the floor so I will keep it this way. Anyway I done the math which you might want to recheck. But what I come up with is it runs for 30 minutes a day.

I went to a kw calculator and from my understanding it draws  1.38 kw. I think I pay .08 cents a kwh. from my calculations which need to be checked. I come up with 11 cents a day. If someone finds my calculations to be wrong please let me know. It may be half that because it only runs for 1/2 hour. OK I am officially confused. Could someone give us the correct answer.

This a good question as well as an important one. Good Job mindblowing for asking the question! I never even thought about it.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mindblowing] * 1
    #25503846 - 10/01/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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No dont delete it man! Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention! You got no idea in damm gratfull

If i build this ill be posting pics

How many times do you run this a day to keesp the humidity up? Just thinking about the power bill with a 2kw pressure washer, besides that im pretty set on building this tbh




Please do post pics if you build it that would be awesome. If you need help I am more than happy to help!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01] * 1
    #25532451 - 10/12/18 02:26 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

you're a madman! :smile: i'm pretty appreciative i've seen your post too man, i'm pretty lazy for the electrical work (i think i'd work around it by using an electric timer kicking in and out frequently) but am super keen to try one of these badboys on for size soon. as you saw on the other thread i've been using the mister bucket (the bucket/fan/mister was $90AUD total) but i've seen a distinct decline in efficacy from the mister and want a better solution. pretty sure i'll be able to get the parts cheaps from aliexpress or wish. thanks again :smile:

edit: i checked aliexpress, they have some cheapish looking systems but i reckon they'd break quick, i'm pretty curious to see what you think of this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/S083-ENTENCO-12m-40feet-Misting-Cooling-System-With-12V-60W-Micro-High-Pressure-Self-Priming-Diaphragm/32910612787.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.31.527d3357OcA5gc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10130_318_10547_319_10548_5727315_10696_450_10084_10083_10618_452_535_534_10307_533_532_10131_10132_10133_204_5727215_10059_10884_10887_100031_320_10103_448_449,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=e42b8c1a-b8a6-450b-a547-2c5748a47aa4-4&algo_pvid=e42b8c1a-b8a6-450b-a547-2c5748a47aa4


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: phir3]
    #25532585 - 10/12/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I still love how mine is running it has been around 2 months now and I haven't had to do anything to it. I am very happy so far. The wiring is not hard at all. If you get the stuff I will help you with it just IM me if you need help. If your mister is declining it either needs cleaning or it will be going soon. The ease of the way I have mine is awesome NO CLEANING just change a filter once a year (not sure how long haven't figured that out yet) Anyway thanks for the compliment if you have questions or need help figuring out the electrical hit me I am always willing to help.

I think I may have been a little too thorough on my post. I am getting no response from anyone. Or people just don't like it. So thanks for letting me know you like what I have done it helps.


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    #25572592 - 10/27/18 09:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Awesome. I've gotta follow this, too! It's a few steps ahead of where I am, but I'm headed this way. Building a new fruiting room with a friend before spring.

Thanks, SHROOMSISAY01!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Groovy Hobbit]
    #25572644 - 10/27/18 09:30 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I am going to read and watch the videos. So far I'm digging this. I won't sacrifice my gas high powered pressure washer but I'll totally buy a smaller electric washer if I decide to go this route someday. Thank you for taking time to type this up and show us your work.:thumbup::cactuarrun:


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Groovy Hobbit]
    #25572648 - 10/27/18 09:33 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Awesome. I've gotta follow this, too! It's a few steps ahead of where I am, but I'm headed this way. Building a new fruiting room with a friend before spring.

Thanks, SHROOMSISAY01!




Check out my post on 55-gallon automatic steam sterilizer you will need one of them too.

Here is the electrical diagram...




I use a float valve so I don't have to keep filling it. I set it and come back the next day and unpack.

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I am going to read and watch the videos. So far I'm digging this. I won't sacrifice my gas high powered pressure washer but I'll totally buy a smaller electric washer if I decide to go this route someday. Thank you for taking time to type this up and show us your work.:thumbup::cactuarrun:




I am happy to help if you need help IM me. I will be glad to help you get going.


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    #25572673 - 10/27/18 09:50 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Will do!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25732337 - 01/08/19 06:50 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Another brilliant guide. :grin:

Do you use a GFCI socket for yours?

I'm going to make a "dumb" version by just using the pressure switch for water and a timer like this to run it for 20 seconds every 10 mins or so.. I've seen a lot of the bigger farms still prefer timers as apposed to humidity controllers, I'll start there and see how it goes. Any suggestions? Is 20 seconds too long, you think it's better to run it more frequently for a shorter period?

How's yours running so far?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25732643 - 01/08/19 08:36 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Yes, I use a GFCI. That timer should work too.

Everyone set up will be different because your room size will be different and the position and number of nozzles will be different also. So you will just have to play with it.

Mine is running great no problems yet. The pond foggers only lasted me about 3 to 4 months at $400 each so I am ahead of the game even if it only lasts 6 months I have the replacement plan so I can get the pump replaced. and the mushrooms like it much better. Everyone said it could not be done with a pressure washer I am glad I did not listen. I don't know if I am smart or stupid for trying it. But it is working so I am happy.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25732653 - 01/08/19 08:41 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

have you grown mushrooms with this setup? all you say is 'things are great'


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mushboy]
    #25732664 - 01/08/19 08:45 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I grow about 30 lbs of amycle 3015 oyster mushrooms a week with this. The only problem I have had is twice I have had to clean out a mist nozzle. Actually, I just switched it out and dropped the stoped up one in vinegar. I should probably get a 1-micron filter and not have to worry about it anymore.


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    #25732667 - 01/08/19 08:46 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

:begger: i like pictures.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mushboy]
    #25732678 - 01/08/19 08:53 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

I like pictures too. I'll send you a couple of my girlfriend if you send me a couple of yours!!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25734035 - 01/09/19 02:19 PM (5 years, 20 days ago)

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Yes, I use a GFCI. That timer should work too.

Everyone set up will be different because your room size will be different and the position and number of nozzles will be different also. So you will just have to play with it.

Mine is running great no problems yet. The pond foggers only lasted me about 3 to 4 months at $400 each so I am ahead of the game even if it only lasts 6 months I have the replacement plan so I can get the pump replaced. and the mushrooms like it much better. Everyone said it could not be done with a pressure washer I am glad I did not listen. I don't know if I am smart or stupid for trying it. But it is working so I am happy.




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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25734664 - 01/09/19 07:28 PM (5 years, 19 days ago)

The shipping/duties for this adapter is nearly $50 for me..

Could I not use this one with a coupling instead, then the slip lock will go into the coupling, or am I missing something?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25735437 - 01/10/19 07:47 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

I'm not going to be using a Sun Joe, shipping stuff that size to me is too expensive.

I figured I could just get whatever pressure washer I could find locally, as long as it had an M22 connector for the hose?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25736269 - 01/10/19 03:32 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

I really don't see why you couldn't forgo most of your relays and adapters and all that and just go straight from  the pressure washer to the misters. You only really need to adapt the pressure washer hose end to your mister bar fittings, whatever that may be depending on the model. Maybe you would need a valve to close on the mister bar so that the water isn't always running through the misters from tap water pressure when the washer isn't running?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
    #25736364 - 01/10/19 04:14 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

The setup is dope, is the white tub for extraction of co2 or what is it for?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
    #25736927 - 01/10/19 08:20 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

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I really don't see why you couldn't forgo most of your relays and adapters and all that and just go straight from  the pressure washer to the misters. You only really need to adapt the pressure washer hose end to your mister bar fittings, whatever that may be depending on the model. Maybe you would need a valve to close on the mister bar so that the water isn't always running through the misters from tap water pressure when the washer isn't running?




You don't have to use the adapters or any of the stuff I suggest. If you don't mind it not working or if you want to blow up a pipe behind a wall in your house because you have 1500 psi on your pipes. Everyone enjoys calling a plumber at 3 o'clock in the morning for a flood.

You can not just hook up the pressure washer to the line with the nozzles. I explained all this in the tek. If you hook it up that way the pressure washer will cycle on and off because not enough water is going through the pressure washer to make it think it is being used. That is the reason for the ball valve so just enough water is cycling through it to make it think you are power washing. If all that had to be done is hook up a pressure washer to a mist line everyone would be doing it that way. But that does not work or won't work long before you burn up the pressure washer.

The reason I cannot leave out the relays is that the humidity controller is only 10 amps and the pressure washer is over 13 amps if I did not use a relay I would burn up the humidity sensor. I did the math $6 for the relay and $50 for the humidity sensor. I am pretty sure it is better to spend $6 and protect the $50 dollar, controller. The other relay is to reverse the way the pressure switch works. You do not have to have a pressure switch but you will burn up the pressure washer if you lose water for some reason. So my thought is to spend another $6 so my $75 pressure washer is saved if I lose water pressure. Remember you can change things up and leave things out if you want to. This is just how I decided to do things.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25736947 - 01/10/19 08:36 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

right on makes sense


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Daoysterking]
    #25736950 - 01/10/19 08:38 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

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The setup is dope, is the white tub for extraction of co2 or what is it for?




I am assuming you are talking about the white pvc in the middle of the room in the video. If so that is just existing house pipe it really has nothing to do with the grow room except being a pain. The 2nd video shows how I exhaust the air and bring in the fresh air. I use a passive system which means I only have a fan on the exhaust and the fresh air is drawn in by the same exhaust.


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Re: True high pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25736964 - 01/10/19 08:45 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

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I'm not going to be using a Sun Joe, shipping stuff that size to me is too expensive.

I figured I could just get whatever pressure washer I could find locally, as long as it had an M22 connector for the hose?




Just find a way to hook up the mist line to the pressure washer and you should be fine. I am sure it can be done with all pressure washers.

Good luck


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25738811 - 01/11/19 06:30 PM (5 years, 17 days ago)

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Just find a way to hook up the mist line to the pressure washer and you should be fine. I am sure it can be done with all pressure washers.

Good luck




Found this guy for cheap..

Still struggling to find a 15mm m22 that can get shipped to me for a reasonable price. The one I did find for a good price turned out to have G3/8 for the threaded side, instead of U.S 3/8.. As if imperial wasn't confusing me enough, there then had to be 2 different kinds of imperial.. :facepalm3:


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25767872 - 01/25/19 02:13 PM (5 years, 4 days ago)

Dude dont ever think about deleting this tek, this is gold! The only reason i did not build my system yet is that i live in brazil and i cannot buy any of the stuff from the links you suggested because the shipping costs are insane for me, or the item cant be delivered to where i live.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Sceptre]
    #25866738 - 03/10/19 10:38 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Just find a way to hook up the mist line to the pressure washer and you should be fine. I am sure it can be done with all pressure washers.

Good luck




Found this guy for cheap..

Still struggling to find a 15mm m22 that can get shipped to me for a reasonable price. The one I did find for a good price turned out to have G3/8 for the threaded side, instead of U.S 3/8.. As if imperial wasn't confusing me enough, there then had to be 2 different kinds of imperial.. :facepalm3:




If that is the pressure washer you are going to use I would buy it 1st because it could have something different than a 15mm m22.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25866763 - 03/10/19 10:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ultrasonic foggers are much more efficient and industrial standard in greenhouses... just saying.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25866919 - 03/11/19 02:01 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

They may be more efficient, but you have to periodically replace the discs. Cheaper to set up, but more expensive to run (just).


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25867282 - 03/11/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Ultrasonic foggers are much more efficient and industrial standard in greenhouses... just saying.




You can believe that if you want and it may be ok for a small room. in 8 months I went through two 9 disc misters from house of hydro at $200 each. I spent $250 to set this up and it has been 6 months. I would rather replace a $70 pressure washer than a $200 mister. Plus I bought the 4-year replacement plan on the washer. Plus there is virtually no maintenance on this build if you have the right filters. I am pretty sure the math works out in my favor. Foggers may be the standard in mini greenhouses but show me, anyone, doing over 150 lbs a week running a fogger and I will show you someone that has more problems than its worth.

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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25867362 - 03/11/19 10:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Many real commercial farms will use a misting fan such as an aquafog set up below the air circulation vents line. I'm not entirely sure what type of atomozation it uses though, I think it's neither ultrasonic nor high pressure. Some kind of centrifugal atomization I think.



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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420] * 1
    #25867871 - 03/11/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to get one of the aquafog machines but they are about $900 and you need to have them higher than my 7ft ceilings. If I remember correctly they have to be 10ft.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25871250 - 03/13/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

This is an amazing how to guide! Thank you so much for sharing. I am seriously considering using this for my small farm. hopefully i will be able to get started  working on the place in about 6 weeks. are you using a water softener as well? or just the inline water filter? water is pretty hard here and i have been wondering if i am going to need a softener system or if i can get away without one.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mattthemushroomman]
    #25871335 - 03/13/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I really can't tell you if you will need a softener we don't have hard water here so I don't have one. If you do not have a steamer check out my other tek. You will need a steamer also. I try to make my teks as easy as possible to reproduce even for someone that knows nothing. I hope I was successful at doing so.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25903477 - 03/29/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Shroom, maybe this has been mentioned before or  you have thought of it already, but  what about a  one way check valve behind your inlet ball valve? That way, if for some reason you were to open the valve to far the back flow pressure of the pressure washer would slam the valve shut and only damage to system  up to that point and not potentially further down the line in your home or business place. For some reason this popped into my head at about 2am this morning lol. Stupid brain never shuts up.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mattthemushroomman]
    #25903993 - 03/29/19 01:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Shroom, maybe this has been mentioned before or  you have thought of it already, but  what about a  one way check valve behind your inlet ball valve? That way, if for some reason you were to open the valve to far the back flow pressure of the pressure washer would slam the valve shut and only damage to system  up to that point and not potentially further down the line in your home or business place. For some reason this popped into my head at about 2am this morning lol. Stupid brain never shuts up.




If you check the 2nd video I show you how it is hooked up. 1st is cut off valve 2nd in a nipple and third in a check valve. I could have placed the check valve behind the inlet ball valve but I would have had to mess this the house plumbing. Where it is now it still serves the same purpose it was just easier to install. Good job you are definitely right a check valve is something I would not go without. Keep up the good work!! Your brain never shutting up is the engineer trying to come out of you. I am the same way. I think about things until I figure it out. The only problem is a lot of times I have to change things because I think of a better way.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26002583 - 05/19/19 11:46 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I have updated the original post to this thread for anyone interested. The 3/8 hose started popping so I replaced it in the parts list with what I think to be a better one. The original pressure washer is still holding up!! I have been using it for Almost 9 months now!!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26003361 - 05/20/19 12:39 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I built this about 4 months ago. I was a little skeptical at first but I went ahead and built the unit. It has been great. I am so glad I decided to build this. My mushrooms absolutely love the environment it creates.


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    #26003656 - 05/20/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Nice to hear it worked out well for you.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26016116 - 05/27/19 11:55 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

this is very cool and creative :thumbup:


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    #26016514 - 05/27/19 03:02 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

This is an awesome set up. Seems quick and easy enough to me :laugh:


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    #26016795 - 05/27/19 05:54 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting !

I’m hesitating between a Mistking and an ultrasonic fogger to mist some SGFC and monotubs while I’m away : any advices ?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Aendir]
    #26017050 - 05/27/19 07:59 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

A mono tub should not need anything if set up properly. That is why they are in my opinion the best method for small grows. Once dialed in there is no work. I do not understand why anyone would do an unmodified mono tub. It takes away all the benefits of a mono tub.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26178871 - 09/10/19 12:43 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey hopefully you can help me with some confusion I'm having with the parts list. Mainly the pieces sourced from advance auto- I am including an edited version of your post to make it easier

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$250 for all the parts below be aware you will need connections to connect to your house pipes and a filter.

!!UPDATE 8/25/19!!


Ok so I am impressed! This thing has lasted about a year. Today is 8/25/2019 and is still going strong with no signs of stopping. The best thing is I have not had to do any maintenance at all. And the mushrooms love the environment it creates. For the price, I would definitely do it again. Trust me this is the best thing I have done for the mushrooms. I wish I would have done this before I wasted my money on house of hydro pond foggers.


*****I have revised some of the parts anything that has been revise I will put this at the beginning (*****) to make it easier to find. This is a work in progress guys.*****

Anyone trying this or planning to try this in the future BUY THESE NOW This is an awesome deal and the people are great. These usually cost $6 to $7 each and they work better than any other nozzles I have tried they are 10 nozzles for $20 GET THEM WHILE YOU CAN THIS WONT LAST LONG!!...


Mist Nozzles .10mm/.004", nickle coat, ceramic tip, anti-drip cleanable 10 pack

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mist-Nozzles-10mm-004-nickle-coat-ceramic-tip-anti-drip-cleanable-10-pack/132020912341?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
^Got these
I had a hard time finding the parts also. Remember depending on what washer you get. you need to be able to connect 3/8 high pressure mist hose to it. I bought this It might be a good idea to get amazon prime to save money on shipping B4 you buy...

Sun Joe SPX1000 1450 PSI 1.45 GPM 11.5-Amp Electric Pressure Washer $69.99
^I have a nearly identical ryobi ready to sacrifice for this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGTLT9K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and this to connect the hose. You can use this on any power washer with a M22 15MM connection...

HOSE ADAPTER FOR M22 15MM TO 3/8" $ 15.00

https://www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/pressure-washing/products/hose-adapter-for-m22-15mm-to-3-8
^Grabbed an identical one at home depot for ~10bux

then you need 2 of these...

Brass 3/8 x 3/8 MNPT slip Lock Male Connector $9.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brass-3-8-x-3-8-MNPT-slip-Lock-Male-Connector/332791870612?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
^Ended up with nickel plated brass version of the same thing because seller only had 1 at the time(and offered me the npb version as an alternative)
(*****) If you want to monitor the pressure you will need two of these...

American Grease Stick Co. Brass Compression Connector, 3/8" Tube, Male (1/4"-18 NPT) 2 x $3.99

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/american-grease-stick-co-brass-compression-connector-3-8-tube-male-1-4-18-npt-cf-17c/11408076-P?cm_mmc=ET-_-Trans-_-Confirmation-_-General#utm_source=et&utm_medium=trans&utm_campaign=confirmation&utm_content=general
^I dont have these yet just because of confusion with the other part(s) from advance auto....They did say not for high pressure use, would you recommend any alternatives or no/not really since you just gave the "1year/allclear"

For the pressure monitor you will need one of these also...

American Grease Stick Co. Brass Union Tee, Female (1/4"-18 NPT) $4.99

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web/PartSearchCmd?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&pageId=partTypeList&actionSrc=Form&searchTerm=1%2F4+x+1%2F4+x+1%2F4+npt+tee
^this one just brings you to Advance auto search page and not a specific item, I assume it is the same as the one listed below because the titling is the same but the link provided is different, so 2 questions here, 1 is that assumption correct, and 2 do I need 2 of these(1 for each pressure gauge?)
If using the above compression fittings you will need high pressure Ferrell's I used these I got a bunch because I didn't know how many times I would have to change this but I am sure you can find these in smaller packs they take a long time for delivery...

LOT 10 Fit 3/8" Tube 304 Stainless Steel Compression Ferrule Insert Ring Fitting
^GOT EM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-10-Fit-3-8-Tube-304-Stainless-Steel-Compression-Ferrule-Insert-Ring-Fitting/182626673879?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

(*****) and one of these...

American Grease Stick Co. Brass Union Tee, Female (1/4"-18 NPT) $4.99

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/american-grease-stick-co-brass-union-tee-female-1-4-18-npt-blf-71c/11408155-P?cm_mmc=ET-_-Trans-_-Confirmation-
^repeat I was referencing above- the link on this one works, 2 of these^?
The gauge I bought is this...

LIQUID FILLED PRESSURE GAUGE, 2.5" DIAL DISPLAY, STAINLESS STEEL CASE, BRASS INTERNALS, 1/4 MALE NPT LOWER MOUNT CONNECTION, DUAL SCALE PSI & BAR (0-2000) $14.45
^got 2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1V3XUO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

depending on how many nozzles you plan on having buy these accordingly ...

High pressure Cooling 10* Brass Misting Nozzles + 5* Slip Lok Coupling Tees  $11.90 for 5 pcs
^ I bought one order of these, how many do I need(I ordered the 10 nozzles pack off ebay referenced at the top of the post )(sorry if this is obvious once I start piecing it together, right now im clueless)
I bought the ones with the compression fittings and put 3/8 inserts from home depot in the hose to be safe inserts are not needed but they made me feel safe.
^are these different compression inserts than what you ordered off ebay, or the same thing just more expensive/locally available
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Low-High-pressure-Cooling-10-Brass-Misting-Nozzles-5-Slip-Lok-Coupling-Tees/122571193686?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=422994416586&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

then you need the correct nozzles for the height of your ceiling. My ceiling is only 7 feet high so I ended up getting the .1mm I would guess anything blow 10 feet this is what you would want and this is a great deal right now only $20 for 10pcs...

Mist Nozzles .10mm/.004", nickle coat, ceramic tip, anti-drip cleanable 10 pack $20.00

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mist-Nozzles-10mm-004-nickle-coat-ceramic-tip-anti-drip-cleanable-10-pack/132020912341?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

then you need a ball valve to allow just enough water to flow to the inlet of your filter so the pressure washer does not cut off. I bought this...

3/8" Ball Valve Comet General AR Pressure Washer Ball Valve 7250 psi $23.50

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-Ball-Valve-Comet-General-AR-Pressure-Washer-Ball-Valve-7250-psi/261120959550?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

I also bought this just in case the ball valve breaks and lets the full pressure go through. I don't want 1500 psi going through my house water pipes and busting a pipe behind a wall...

VA CV-5000-08-08-5 - 1/2" Female Pipe High Pressure Check valve - 7 PSI Crackin $16.28

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VA-CV-5000-08-08-5-1-2-Female-Pipe-High-Pressure-Check-valve-7-PSI-Crackin/172512802356?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I have the comet ball valve/check valve listed just above this/and nozzles(assuming they are the ones mentioned at the very top of the post and that they were mentioned TWICE, would appreciate confirmation)
and the last thing I think you will need besides all the pieces and adapters to connect your piping together is nylon hose...

High Pressure Tubing -Nylon - 1500 PSI Rated $1.49 per foot (MAKE SURE YOU BUY THE 3/8 TUBE)

https://www.mistcooling.com/high-pressure-tubing-nylon.html

Getting some^, how much length would you suggest at minimum?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: The Dom]
    #26179370 - 09/10/19 10:03 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I will work on clearing up your questions in my tek. Thanks for the heads up.



Sun Joe SPX1000 1450 PSI 1.45 GPM 11.5-Amp Electric Pressure Washer $69.99
^I have a nearly identical ryobi ready to sacrifice for this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGTLT9K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

As long as this piece that you got from home depot fits the pressure washer you are fine.



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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26179393 - 09/10/19 10:18 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Yessir :thumbup:, that part was clear from your original posts wording I just didnt want to leave anything out since I was reposting the list and didnt wanna waste your time having you doublecheck whether I had the stuff I had erased or not written a note on
(btw they have both the male and female style at home depot so it shouldnt be a problem if you have an oddball pressure washer that needs the male fitting instead.) I appreciate the quick response, sorry to be the idiot that makes you idiot-proof the post but I thank you and I'm sure plenty of others like me will also appreciate the clarity as well. Excited to slap it all together next week! :thanx:


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: The Dom]
    #26179486 - 09/10/19 11:18 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Yessir :thumbup:, that part was clear from your original posts wording I just didnt want to leave anything out since I was reposting the list and didnt wanna waste your time having you doublecheck whether I had the stuff I had erased or not written a note on
(btw they have both the male and female style at home depot so it shouldnt be a problem if you have an oddball pressure washer that needs the male fitting instead.) I appreciate the quick response, sorry to be the idiot that makes you idiot-proof the post but I thank you and I'm sure plenty of others like me will also appreciate the clarity as well. Excited to slap it all together next week! :thanx:




I appreciate you letting me know about the confusing parts. I want it to be easy for the people that want to build this. God knows it was not easy for me. That is why I made the tek for people that have the need and don't know where to begin. I want to see a video of this thing running once you get it done and please post your thoughts on it. So people know this is legit. I have a feeling people think this is not for real. You are only the second person I know of that has built this. Not including me. You will love it.




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    #26179577 - 09/10/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I Pm'ed the links(I just now realized they aren't the same item though I do think they're convertable to the same item(just made of 2 pieces instead of one) for about the same total price and likely local availability:thumbup:)(EDIT SHROOMSISAY01 sent me concerns on the style I proposed, I will test it out and report back  :rockon:  )
Thanks you made everything super clear, especially
-reminding me the 2nd pressure gauges connections are dependent on my home connections,
THE FILTER! I had completely forgotten to even ask about it and wouldve been clueless-thanks for the hassle free direct link!
The hose recommendation- -measure,measure,measure+~15ft great advice Thanks!


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    #26179590 - 09/10/19 12:31 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

If you would post some pics of your actual setup and results this would be much more interesting. BTW unmodified tubs are set and forget if done properly and considering there are no benefits to modified tubs. Back to the point, I want 30lb of oysters a week so show us how you make it happen. :begger:


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    #26179757 - 09/10/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Man i am really interested in this setup, ill probably build one of those for me one day. Just didnt do it yet because i have a hard time buying most of those parts where i live (Brazil) and also because i bought a "industrial" 10 head pond fogger from china (Aliexpress, about 70 Bucks) that produces a massive fog and is very sturdy. Here in Brazil its much easier to buy things from china than from the US (the shipping costs are much much lower).


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    #26179883 - 09/10/19 02:44 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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If you would post some pics of your actual setup and results this would be much more interesting. BTW unmodified tubs are set and forget if done properly and considering there are no benefits to modified tubs. Back to the point, I want 30lb of oysters a week so show us how you make it happen. :begger:




I am not sure what you would like pics of. There are videos at the begging of the tek. If you would like something else let me know. I'll take the pics if I know what you would like pics of.

30 lbs of oysters is not hard. I spawn 20 bags every week on the 3rd week you put the 1st weeks spawned bags into fruiting. As long as you keep spawning each week and putting bags in fruiting you will have at least 30 lbs each week.


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    #26179891 - 09/10/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Man i am really interested in this setup, ill probably build one of those for me one day. Just didnt do it yet because i have a hard time buying most of those parts where i live (Brazil) and also because i bought a "industrial" 10 head pond fogger from china (Aliexpress, about 70 Bucks) that produces a massive fog and is very sturdy. Here in Brazil its much easier to buy things from china than from the US (the shipping costs are much much lower).




I went through two 9 head foggers in 6 months at $300 each. That is what started this whole thing in the 1st place. Make sure you have some air stones in the water bucket or they won't even last that long.


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    #26180404 - 09/10/19 07:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for reporting on this.  So the issue with house of hydro ultrasonic fogger was that is broke down? 

I have one of those right now.

While it worked was it as good as what you got now?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26180656 - 09/10/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

House of hydro pond foggers was not even close to as good as what I have now. The mushrooms are much happier and I have not even thought about the system since I put it in. Other than replacing the cheap hose I bought. There is no maintenance at all now. I have not even replaced the filters in the filtering system. I would not go back for anything. What I have now just works to well. I honestly did not think it would work this well or this long. When The Dom gets his built he will tell you that it works perfectly. I built this just to get through until I could make enough money to buy a high-pressure pump. I will not be buying a high-pressure pump now. There is no need to. The only problem is it is loud. But if that was a problem for me. I would build a sound deadening box for the pump.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26329307 - 11/18/19 05:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Very cool idea, I want to look more into this for sure, Did you come up with the idea by yourself or was it based off of another setup? Sorry i didnt have time to read the whole post yet.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Raven_Mushrooms]
    #26329505 - 11/18/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I came up with this myself. It is not based on another build. I was told it could not be done with a power washer. So I almost did not try. 1 1/2 years later it is still going. I am working on an Arduino controller to use with the power washer fogging system. I will be selling the premade shield to plug into an Arduino.


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    #26665712 - 05/12/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hi SHROOMSISAY01

What do you think of lower pressure system?
To operate in about 100psi instead of 1000psi?

I saw this pump, there is also a picture of water spraying nozzles a bit down.

It would be nice to operate something 12V as main power supply deteriorates more and more in the shithole.

Or 100psi will not be enough to make a fine mist? Or it depends on nozzles?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: bogdancev]
    #26666707 - 05/12/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No 100 psi will just get everything wet you will have to hot use high pressure to get a fine enough mist. 100 psi is about 25 psi higher than my regular water pressure. It is not enough in my opinion. You are going to have to get up to about 800 psi to be effective but 1000 is recommended.


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    #26667787 - 05/13/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Will you be able to update the link to nozzles?
Just want to confirm that I search correct items.


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    #26668830 - 05/13/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It has been updated.


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    #26677953 - 05/17/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is very interesting.  Im going to take a deeper look into this for sure! Thanks for the tek!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Mainframe]
    #26695229 - 05/25/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a kit available now. Feel free to buy all the pieces separately. But it will cost you more than buying the kit and finding the correct parts will take a long time. Then you have to wait for shipping. Do yourself a favor buy the kit and never have to worry about humidity again!!


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    #26791777 - 06/29/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I know this is an old thread, but maybe somone is still looking at options on a lower pressure system. this nozzle is capable of 1-5 micron droplet size at 75psi air pressure @5 cfm and 15 psi water pressure supposedly the nozzles are pretty maintenance free. i want to give this a go in the future for my grow room. https://myersmushrooms.com/shop/ols/products/hart-ultimix-nozzle-kit here is a link to the manuf web site https://www.hartenv.com/dust-suppression.html scroll down the page for info on its various uses. hope this is useful to someone.  Matt


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: mattthemushroomman]
    #26791871 - 06/29/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The problem is the price $175 per nozzle. Then you need an air compressor and a filter system. I have proven my system for over 2 years. My manifold is $90 then you add your nozzles at $6 each. So ask yourself $96 or $175 and if you need 2 nozzles his is $350 mine is $102. I would assume that his nozzles work well but the price is ridiculous. Remember you will need twice the tubing and you will also need 2 compression fittings for each nozzle and two tees which are at least $6 each. So that $175 just went up to $199 each nozzle. God forbid if you need 5 or 10 nozzles. My system I can get 10 nozzles up and running in about an hour with less tubing and connectors. and the manifold hooks up with a simple garden hose. I will take some pics of my system today and post them. I am in the process of getting a patent for it. So I am taking it slow at this point but I am still selling them.

Those nozzles are an option but only if you have deep pockets. I have deep pockets but I have short arms!! Remember you need a nozzle about every 2 feet to humidify properly and the bigger you room is the bigger your air compressor needs to be.


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    #26791982 - 06/29/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those nozzles claim a 1-5 micron droplet size which is considered a dry fog and will not wet anything. Your low cost system while effective may be making 15+ micron droplets which can potentially saturate substrates and cause other moisture problems such as pooling in your room in places. It's not just a nozzle for the 175, the nozzle has an mixing block that it screws into that acoustically mixes the water and air for a maximum small droplet size. Its high quality machined and thats why its expensive.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
    #26792118 - 06/29/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok so let me buy a Lamborghini when I only need a Toyota to get to work.

A .006″/.15mm nozzle produces a droplet size as low as 1.2 microns. I use a .004"/.10mm nozzle which gives a smaller microns size.

I have been running this system for over 2 years with no pooling or puddles anywhere. A couple of feet below the nozzles and my bags do not get wet. My floor stays bone dry with no water anywhere.

I looked into those nozzles years ago. But the price is not practical. I would also note that MR. Myers did not use these nozzles to make his system that he uses now. He used a cat pump and built his own system. I have been telling people to do this for years and gave all the info on how to do it. I would not be surprised if he followed the things that I have said to build what he is using now. I respect Eric Myers and he has helped me in many ways. I buy my bags from him. But those nozzles are overkill for sure.

Options are great and this is an option. I just don't think a very good one.

To be honest I put this system together so I could save up enough money to build the cat pump. I did not think the pressure washer would last as long as it has. Now that I know the system is reliable because it has lasted two years. I will just replace the pressure washer if it ever goes out.

If you want a humidification system that is much better than the pond foggers and you want a cheap price my system is the only way to go.


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    #26793880 - 06/30/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Damn man why so defensive. If you look back to when you first made this thread I was the first and only person to be interested and support your idea. I think it's a genius idea for sure but you are kind of making some wild claims and sounding slightly delusional. It's a good system you've made for sure. Keep up the good work.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
    #26794139 - 06/30/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I only sound defensive because I want proper info out there about it. If I am delusional about something please correct me. As I stated I want the proper info out there. I will admit if I am wrong. I do not want to put out a claim that is wrong.

I appreciate the discussion and encourage more. A discussion is what I consider this not an argument. If I offended you in some way please forgive me it was not my intension!!


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    #26831847 - 07/19/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Very interesting I had thought about setting a pressure washer outside to water a greenhouse on a timer, I like this idea.

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    #26831910 - 07/19/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have a kit That is much easier than tapping into your plumbing. It hooks up by a garden hose. The kit is $125 with 6 misters you can have it installed in under an hour. 6 mister will cover a 10' x 5' room additional mister are $6 each (nozzle and connector) if you have a bigger room. Stay away from the push to connect connectors I had two of them fail on me. Now I only use compression connectors.


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    #26838706 - 07/22/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm excited to try this! Thanks for the guide. I don't think many people know about high pressure humidification yet. I plan to use it for cannabis but shit for $250 I might as well make two. There's no consumer models out there for purchase so seeing this DIY option is encouraging.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Icon]
    #26838920 - 07/22/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You may have a hard time finding all of the parts. So I offer a kit That is much better than the original one from this tek (New design is easier to hook up and get it running). The Kit comes with...

1. 6 misters and 6 compression connectors to cover up to a 10' x 5' room (extra connectors and misters are $6 a set).

2. Manifold

3. High-pressure valve

4. High-pressure gauge (The connector for this gauge had to be custom made by a machinist)

5. Low-pressure gauge

6. Low water cut off can be bought for a little more (With custom 3D printed Box)

7. Custom 3D printed mounts to mount everything to the iFilters Whole House 2 Stage Sediment, Rust filter. (filter is not included in the Kit)

The kit's price is $125. It would be hard to build the kit for that price. The time saved looking for the parts is worth more than the kit's cost. The new design hooks up by garden hoses. So no need to tap into your houses plumbing. You could have it up and running in less than an hour.

What you would have to buy to complete the kit...

1. iFilters Whole House 2 Stage Sediment, Rust filter (amazon) $50

2. Pressure washer (Ebay) $59 I use the Sun Joe SPX1000

3. 3/8 Nylon mist tubing (https://www.mistcooling.com/) Price depends on how much you need.

4. Pressure washer to nylon tube adapter (eBay) $14. I do not offer these because you may not want to use a sun joe pressure washer.

5. 3/8 compress to 3/8 MNPT adapter $5 (Lowes)


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #26838972 - 07/22/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If you decide to do this yourself? There are two things you need to Stay away from PE mist tubing is one of them. I had the tubing pop but luckily I heard it pop and caught it before I had any damage. The other thing to stay away from is push-lock connectors. I had two of these break in less than a year of installing the system. I went to compression connectors and it has been over 2 years without a problem. The push-lock connectors are junk and I would not trust them.


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good to hear long-use tips like those nice


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    #26839324 - 07/22/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I was really lucky. 3 times I had a problem and very little water leaked Under 5 gallons. If the right parts are used no one will have a problem. I can't say that if you use the wrong parts though. I had to figure it out as I went, unfortunately. I am confident in the system now. As I said it has been over 2 years without a single problem. I do have a Leak Smart Complete Home Water Protection system I have installed now. So If a leak is detected my main shutoff closes. I installed this because my daughter left a hose in the basement turned on and it busted. I had over 2000 gallons of water in my basement. I guess 4th time is not a charm. Hopefully, nothing like that happens again with the leak smart system. it was $150. So not that bad for peace of mind and protection from having to dry out my carpet again.


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    #26856376 - 07/31/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #27554254 - 11/22/21 09:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

First I want to thank you for all the help you have given to this community especially in the gourmet section. Your work seems solid and very knowledgeable but easy to understand. I have been meaning to look at this for awhile as you know I am fixing to go with a greenhouse setup although not as big as yours. It sounds like your from the north maybe in the midwest with the accent I like it in the videos.

You answered 1 question, but I have a few more. Is the reason it is so loud is because of the pressure washer? I don't think living in a apartment that my neighbors would like it that loud even though its only 10-20 seconds. What if I went with a smaller room like 4X4X6 this would probably be overkill whats your opinion on that? I see I could maybe go with a smaller pressure washer that might cut the noise I don't know for sure. Also you said you can hook it up by a water hose which I like what would I need to run to make it shutoff in case one of the hoses or something burst? You may have answered that question so sorry if you have otherwise thank you for this post and helping the community out.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: kanemush]
    #27554298 - 11/22/21 10:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

It's funny that you picked up that I am from the north. Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio. I moved to Virginia about 7 years ago. It sounds to me like you will be running something small so I would think that you would just want to go with an ultrasonic humidifier especially since you live in an apartment. with the pressure washer, you could build a sound deadening box but not sure how quiet you could get it. When you go high pressure you are going to have some noise no way around it. As far as stopping water if you have a leak. They make water cut-off valves for a clothes washer that have a water sensor and if they detect water on the floor they cut off the water to your hose.

Whether you should use a high-pressure mist or an ultrasonic really depends on how big of a tent/room you will be fruiting in.


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Re: True high pressure fog for mushrooms from pressure washer $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27554375 - 11/23/21 02:07 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Y'all taking it way too serious you don't need better growing equipment you need to choose a better species to grow.


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Re: True high pressure fog for mushrooms from pressure washer $250 [Re: StreetSweeper]
    #27554773 - 11/23/21 10:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

What is better than oysters?


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27554906 - 11/23/21 12:01 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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It's funny that you picked up that I am from the north. Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio. I moved to Virginia about 7 years ago. It sounds to me like you will be running something small so I would think that you would just want to go with an ultrasonic humidifier especially since you live in an apartment. with the pressure washer, you could build a sound deadening box but not sure how quiet you could get it. When you go high pressure you are going to have some noise no way around it. As far as stopping water if you have a leak. They make water cut-off valves for a clothes washer that have a water sensor and if they detect water on the floor they cut off the water to your hose.

Whether you should use a high-pressure mist or an ultrasonic really depends on how big of a tent/room you will be fruiting in.




Thank you again for answering all my questions, and yes I mean if I get 5-20 lbs a month I would be happy. I figure this was a little overkill, but it is just so damn neat I have to say.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27771037 - 05/10/22 11:23 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I am getting ready to add a 10x10 tent to my culinary grow and this looks exactly like what I need.I have been experiencing a similar situation with ultrasonic misters failing every six to nine months on me. (even after replacing the ceramic disk they usually do not work)

Are you still offering a kit to start with? If so, how many mist nozzles would you recommend for a 10x10x7 tent? Would you be able to make a package deal with the additional nozzles and tubing required?

Another question that I have is whether or not you think that the snow joe pressure washer model that you used is capable of the additional nozzles for a tent that size or if I would need to look into something with a higher flow rate.

So glad I joined this forum after finding the best morel grow thread I have seen. I had (wrongfully) dismissed shroomery in the past as just a group of basement cube growers, but this forum is providing some solutions that tackle some of my biggest issues scaling my Oyster/Shiitake/LM/Chestnut/Etc. grow.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: GourmetGod]
    #27771257 - 05/10/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Yes, the sun joe that I used should be able to do 75 misters according to my calculation I have not tried to supply that many nozzles but they should be able to do it. You would need somewhere around 25 nozzles to accommodate a 10 x 10 room. I have all the parts including the tubing. I just finished building one for a person on shoomery. Probably better for you to call me I will PM you my phone # and we will discuss what you need. No need to tap into your house piping as I did. The kit now connects directly with a garden hose. It also can be used with any humidity controller or timer because it will only draw less than one amp. The pressure washer can use up to 15 amps and it will still work.

The best deal I could find on a pressure washer is this...

Sun Joe SPX205E-XT-RM Electric Pressure Washer

It is overkill you don't need that much psi but it is cheap.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27771530 - 05/10/22 05:12 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Man pretty cool to see you have such good long term success with this. I was one of the only people to comment on this for quite some time.

I think I will put a room together with a pressure washer based on your setup when I get a warehouse for edibles. My current room would rot with water leaks.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27772033 - 05/10/22 11:02 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Thank you for your response! I would enjoy the opportunity to speak further on getting a kit setup.


I have been using a digiten humidity controllers with great success on other tents (10 amp limit, but I am no stranger to wiring relays). model for reference: https://www.amazon.com/DIGITEN-Controller-Humidistat-Dehumidifier-Humidifier/dp/B07CSVN892/ref=sr_1_3?crid=T557GKF0VCT3&keywords=digiten+humidity&qid=1652243680&sprefix=digiten+humidity%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-3

I was thinking about going your route with an extended warranty on the pressure washer, but with that refurb units price, I might just get two of them. That way I can have a backup on hand if I have a failure and switch it out right away.

One area I am looking at straying from your design is I have a 400gpd RO system with an expansion tank. I am going to have to look at whether I can plumb directly into the expansion tank as the water feed line for the pressure washer. My water where I live is insanely hard without heavy filtration and can clog a shower head nozzle in months. (and most filters as well) I will have to make a run to the plumbing store to get parts to  test what the pressure drop is at 1.5gpm with a 1/2 inch line (its 1/4 inch currently) With that said, I would still like to get the parts for a garden hose as well so I can bypass the RO system if it fails.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #27890961 - 08/05/22 10:45 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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If you need a Kit contact me!!




congratulations brother, impressive, very good job, I have read and followed this post for more than 1 year and the truth is that I have not found a better solution than this, now that I have my room I will be able to implement this, when Im ready to start I will see if I buy the kit with you or I dare to build it myself, the truth is that with all the effort, experience and validation time it is very worth buying directly from you, I will be writing later, greetings from Colombia


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: GourmetGod]
    #27892524 - 08/06/22 12:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I am sorry I thought I responded to you earlier. My new design uses a garden hose to connect to the system and the new system only draws under 1 amp for the controller/timer although you have to connect to another 15 amp outlet. In other words, you need two plug-ins, not two separate outlets. A standard outlet with two places to plug in a device is perfect. The humidity controller will only draw under 1 amp. The way I designed it you can use any humidity controller/timer that can handle 1 amp or above most can handle 10 amps so no problem using my system. There are many problems when trying to use a pressure washer. I have solved them all in a good-looking unit that works great!!

If you have any other questions? I am happy to answer them all!!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Valgrant]
    #27892531 - 08/06/22 01:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I am happy you like what I have done with the system. To be totally honest this thing is badass!! If you decide to build it yourself feel free but realize it is not as easy as just hooking up misters to a pressure washer you will burn up the pressure washer. Then there is the problem of the high amp load of the pressure washer being over 10 amps so using most humidity controllers or timers is not possible without some ingenuity. Then you have to worry about the water being cut off for any reason. Again this will burn up the pressure washer. All these problems have been solved in a good-looking easy setup. It would be hard to build the system under what I charge anyway. But the choice is yours. I will give you a good price on a system with high-quality parts. So just PM me if you would like to purchase a system. If not good luck on the build you can do it but it is not easy and you will probably have more in it to figure it out than just buying a built system that works!!


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #28193382 - 02/18/23 04:57 PM (11 months, 2 days ago)

Am I missing the pictures? I clicked the link in your profile and it brought me to a post on this page which had been deleted. I'm dying to see what this magical contraption looks like, especially after I read your comment about using a PRV to prevent the cataclysmic damage to your house plumbing that would ensue if the ball valve broke.

May I ask what PSI are you running the mister nozzles at? Also, it seems like most people use ultrasonic foggers but I also think misters are pretty nice when set up correctly. Have you ever tried using a booster pump with expansion valve and solenoid? The reason I ask is because I wonder what the longevity of the pressure washer will be when it's subjected to so many on/off cycles throughout a day. Also booster pumps are super quiet and durable, and the part most likely to fail is the solenoid which is cheap and  readily available.


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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: nakadash1]
    #28193503 - 02/18/23 06:31 PM (11 months, 2 days ago)

Oh wow, I don't know what happened here. It looks like it is gone. I spent a lot of time on this post!!

I run 1000 psi through my system. Ultrasonics are nice when they are working. You need to spend an hour a week cleaning your ultrasonic to keep it working properly. I change a filter once a year. NO cleaning!! The system pays for itself the first year in the cost of your labor for cleaning the ultrasonic.

I will see if I can figure out what happened. I built this for the first time like 5 years ago and I am still on the same pressure washer. But I have taken some time off. I would guess my pressure washer has been running for 3 years with no problems at all. Everyone will be different though my pressure washer runs for 10 to 15 seconds every 10 mins and I just leave my exhaust on 24/7. So it has short cycles and long rest times. I bought a 4-year warranty plan with my pressure washer thinking I would need another one but it turns out that was a waste of money any way it was worth buying the warranty. The nice thing about this system is if the pressure washer stops working I can run down to the home depot and pick up a pressure washer for under $100 I don't have to pay $800 for a mist pump and have to wait forever.

A booster pump will not give you a small enough droplet size you need 1000 psi.

To be honest the one-way valve is not needed. The water pressure on the low-pressure side actually drops when the pressure washer is running.


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