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SHROOMSISAY01
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The problem is the price $175 per nozzle. Then you need an air compressor and a filter system. I have proven my system for over 2 years. My manifold is $90 then you add your nozzles at $6 each. So ask yourself $96 or $175 and if you need 2 nozzles his is $350 mine is $102. I would assume that his nozzles work well but the price is ridiculous. Remember you will need twice the tubing and you will also need 2 compression fittings for each nozzle and two tees which are at least $6 each. So that $175 just went up to $199 each nozzle. God forbid if you need 5 or 10 nozzles. My system I can get 10 nozzles up and running in about an hour with less tubing and connectors. and the manifold hooks up with a simple garden hose. I will take some pics of my system today and post them. I am in the process of getting a patent for it. So I am taking it slow at this point but I am still selling them.
Those nozzles are an option but only if you have deep pockets. I have deep pockets but I have short arms!! Remember you need a nozzle about every 2 feet to humidify properly and the bigger you room is the bigger your air compressor needs to be.
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sandman420
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Those nozzles claim a 1-5 micron droplet size which is considered a dry fog and will not wet anything. Your low cost system while effective may be making 15+ micron droplets which can potentially saturate substrates and cause other moisture problems such as pooling in your room in places. It's not just a nozzle for the 175, the nozzle has an mixing block that it screws into that acoustically mixes the water and air for a maximum small droplet size. Its high quality machined and thats why its expensive.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
#26792118 - 06/29/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so let me buy a Lamborghini when I only need a Toyota to get to work.
A .006″/.15mm nozzle produces a droplet size as low as 1.2 microns. I use a .004"/.10mm nozzle which gives a smaller microns size.
I have been running this system for over 2 years with no pooling or puddles anywhere. A couple of feet below the nozzles and my bags do not get wet. My floor stays bone dry with no water anywhere.
I looked into those nozzles years ago. But the price is not practical. I would also note that MR. Myers did not use these nozzles to make his system that he uses now. He used a cat pump and built his own system. I have been telling people to do this for years and gave all the info on how to do it. I would not be surprised if he followed the things that I have said to build what he is using now. I respect Eric Myers and he has helped me in many ways. I buy my bags from him. But those nozzles are overkill for sure.
Options are great and this is an option. I just don't think a very good one.
To be honest I put this system together so I could save up enough money to build the cat pump. I did not think the pressure washer would last as long as it has. Now that I know the system is reliable because it has lasted two years. I will just replace the pressure washer if it ever goes out.
If you want a humidification system that is much better than the pond foggers and you want a cheap price my system is the only way to go.
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sandman420
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Damn man why so defensive. If you look back to when you first made this thread I was the first and only person to be interested and support your idea. I think it's a genius idea for sure but you are kind of making some wild claims and sounding slightly delusional. It's a good system you've made for sure. Keep up the good work.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
#26794139 - 06/30/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I only sound defensive because I want proper info out there about it. If I am delusional about something please correct me. As I stated I want the proper info out there. I will admit if I am wrong. I do not want to put out a claim that is wrong.
I appreciate the discussion and encourage more. A discussion is what I consider this not an argument. If I offended you in some way please forgive me it was not my intension!!
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King0fthajuice
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Very interesting I had thought about setting a pressure washer outside to water a greenhouse on a timer, I like this idea.
Thanks for the addition!
-------------------- I like rain Whether you think you can or you think you can’t, you’re right!
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SHROOMSISAY01
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I have a kit That is much easier than tapping into your plumbing. It hooks up by a garden hose. The kit is $125 with 6 misters you can have it installed in under an hour. 6 mister will cover a 10' x 5' room additional mister are $6 each (nozzle and connector) if you have a bigger room. Stay away from the push to connect connectors I had two of them fail on me. Now I only use compression connectors.
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I'm excited to try this! Thanks for the guide. I don't think many people know about high pressure humidification yet. I plan to use it for cannabis but shit for $250 I might as well make two. There's no consumer models out there for purchase so seeing this DIY option is encouraging.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: Icon]
#26838920 - 07/22/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You may have a hard time finding all of the parts. So I offer a kit That is much better than the original one from this tek (New design is easier to hook up and get it running). The Kit comes with...
1. 6 misters and 6 compression connectors to cover up to a 10' x 5' room (extra connectors and misters are $6 a set).
2. Manifold
3. High-pressure valve
4. High-pressure gauge (The connector for this gauge had to be custom made by a machinist)
5. Low-pressure gauge
6. Low water cut off can be bought for a little more (With custom 3D printed Box)
7. Custom 3D printed mounts to mount everything to the iFilters Whole House 2 Stage Sediment, Rust filter. (filter is not included in the Kit)
The kit's price is $125. It would be hard to build the kit for that price. The time saved looking for the parts is worth more than the kit's cost. The new design hooks up by garden hoses. So no need to tap into your houses plumbing. You could have it up and running in less than an hour.
What you would have to buy to complete the kit...
1. iFilters Whole House 2 Stage Sediment, Rust filter (amazon) $50
2. Pressure washer (Ebay) $59 I use the Sun Joe SPX1000
3. 3/8 Nylon mist tubing (https://www.mistcooling.com/) Price depends on how much you need.
4. Pressure washer to nylon tube adapter (eBay) $14. I do not offer these because you may not want to use a sun joe pressure washer.
5. 3/8 compress to 3/8 MNPT adapter $5 (Lowes)
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SHROOMSISAY01
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If you decide to do this yourself? There are two things you need to Stay away from PE mist tubing is one of them. I had the tubing pop but luckily I heard it pop and caught it before I had any damage. The other thing to stay away from is push-lock connectors. I had two of these break in less than a year of installing the system. I went to compression connectors and it has been over 2 years without a problem. The push-lock connectors are junk and I would not trust them.
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sandman420
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good to hear long-use tips like those nice
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: sandman420]
#26839324 - 07/22/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was really lucky. 3 times I had a problem and very little water leaked Under 5 gallons. If the right parts are used no one will have a problem. I can't say that if you use the wrong parts though. I had to figure it out as I went, unfortunately. I am confident in the system now. As I said it has been over 2 years without a single problem. I do have a Leak Smart Complete Home Water Protection system I have installed now. So If a leak is detected my main shutoff closes. I installed this because my daughter left a hose in the basement turned on and it busted. I had over 2000 gallons of water in my basement. I guess 4th time is not a charm. Hopefully, nothing like that happens again with the leak smart system. it was $150. So not that bad for peace of mind and protection from having to dry out my carpet again.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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If you need a Kit contact me!!
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kanemush
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First I want to thank you for all the help you have given to this community especially in the gourmet section. Your work seems solid and very knowledgeable but easy to understand. I have been meaning to look at this for awhile as you know I am fixing to go with a greenhouse setup although not as big as yours. It sounds like your from the north maybe in the midwest with the accent I like it in the videos.
You answered 1 question, but I have a few more. Is the reason it is so loud is because of the pressure washer? I don't think living in a apartment that my neighbors would like it that loud even though its only 10-20 seconds. What if I went with a smaller room like 4X4X6 this would probably be overkill whats your opinion on that? I see I could maybe go with a smaller pressure washer that might cut the noise I don't know for sure. Also you said you can hook it up by a water hose which I like what would I need to run to make it shutoff in case one of the hoses or something burst? You may have answered that question so sorry if you have otherwise thank you for this post and helping the community out.
Edited by kanemush (11/22/21 09:44 PM)
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: kanemush]
#27554298 - 11/22/21 10:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's funny that you picked up that I am from the north. Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio. I moved to Virginia about 7 years ago. It sounds to me like you will be running something small so I would think that you would just want to go with an ultrasonic humidifier especially since you live in an apartment. with the pressure washer, you could build a sound deadening box but not sure how quiet you could get it. When you go high pressure you are going to have some noise no way around it. As far as stopping water if you have a leak. They make water cut-off valves for a clothes washer that have a water sensor and if they detect water on the floor they cut off the water to your hose.
Whether you should use a high-pressure mist or an ultrasonic really depends on how big of a tent/room you will be fruiting in.
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StreetSweeper
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Re: True high pressure fog for mushrooms from pressure washer $250 [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#27554375 - 11/23/21 02:07 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Y'all taking it way too serious you don't need better growing equipment you need to choose a better species to grow.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: True high pressure fog for mushrooms from pressure washer $250 [Re: StreetSweeper]
#27554773 - 11/23/21 10:04 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is better than oysters?
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kanemush
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Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said: It's funny that you picked up that I am from the north. Born and raised in Cleveland Ohio. I moved to Virginia about 7 years ago. It sounds to me like you will be running something small so I would think that you would just want to go with an ultrasonic humidifier especially since you live in an apartment. with the pressure washer, you could build a sound deadening box but not sure how quiet you could get it. When you go high pressure you are going to have some noise no way around it. As far as stopping water if you have a leak. They make water cut-off valves for a clothes washer that have a water sensor and if they detect water on the floor they cut off the water to your hose.
Whether you should use a high-pressure mist or an ultrasonic really depends on how big of a tent/room you will be fruiting in.
Thank you again for answering all my questions, and yes I mean if I get 5-20 lbs a month I would be happy. I figure this was a little overkill, but it is just so damn neat I have to say.
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GourmetGod
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I am getting ready to add a 10x10 tent to my culinary grow and this looks exactly like what I need.I have been experiencing a similar situation with ultrasonic misters failing every six to nine months on me. (even after replacing the ceramic disk they usually do not work)
Are you still offering a kit to start with? If so, how many mist nozzles would you recommend for a 10x10x7 tent? Would you be able to make a package deal with the additional nozzles and tubing required?
Another question that I have is whether or not you think that the snow joe pressure washer model that you used is capable of the additional nozzles for a tent that size or if I would need to look into something with a higher flow rate.
So glad I joined this forum after finding the best morel grow thread I have seen. I had (wrongfully) dismissed shroomery in the past as just a group of basement cube growers, but this forum is providing some solutions that tackle some of my biggest issues scaling my Oyster/Shiitake/LM/Chestnut/Etc. grow.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Hi pressure fog under $250 [Re: GourmetGod]
#27771257 - 05/10/22 01:58 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, the sun joe that I used should be able to do 75 misters according to my calculation I have not tried to supply that many nozzles but they should be able to do it. You would need somewhere around 25 nozzles to accommodate a 10 x 10 room. I have all the parts including the tubing. I just finished building one for a person on shoomery. Probably better for you to call me I will PM you my phone # and we will discuss what you need. No need to tap into your house piping as I did. The kit now connects directly with a garden hose. It also can be used with any humidity controller or timer because it will only draw less than one amp. The pressure washer can use up to 15 amps and it will still work.
The best deal I could find on a pressure washer is this...
Sun Joe SPX205E-XT-RM Electric Pressure Washer
It is overkill you don't need that much psi but it is cheap.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (05/10/22 02:01 PM)
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