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A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties?
    #25412950 - 08/25/18 04:54 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I just read that Armillaria tabescens has bioluminescent mycelium and
straight away imagined myself in my grow room, lights closed, with a big
tub with green glowing myc illuminating the room. Even though i
understand it might not be all that dramatic, it still would would be
cool to give it a go :laugh:

Anyone tried this?

I might be too high right now, but i hope this is more than a silly
dream :P ..

Knowing about Armillarias aggressively parasitic behaviours, would it
be a stupid idea that might have dire consequences on the local
environment when disposing?


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: OericOss]
    #25415044 - 08/26/18 04:45 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

You could try Panellus stipticus instead.  As far as i know it's not dangerous to the environment in the same way, and is bio-luminescent. More so with a lower pH, so I've got some growing on fermented WBS and it loves it. Definitely glows, but not very bright. The fruit glow more, but mine haven't fruited yet.


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: crowseed]
    #25415149 - 08/26/18 05:45 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

That sounds like a better alternative then since the species is native to my region.
Going to be on the look out on future forages.
If you have any spores ill be stoked to have some my way =) :dancer:


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? (moved) [Re: OericOss]
    #25415342 - 08/26/18 07:11 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25416702 - 08/27/18 12:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I believe all mushrooms cultivation will have an effect on the environment. Spores releasing into the air can colonize local deadwood and organic matter. Hopefully a winter will take care of species that aren't meant to be there!


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: OericOss]
    #25418503 - 08/28/18 05:54 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

OericOss said:
If you have any spores ill be stoked to have some my way =) :dancer:




Sorry mate got no spores as jars haven't fruited yet. I don't have the culture on anything sterile anymore - just on fermented grain.

You probably know but just in case, ,, you can eat young honey fungus but you can't eat P. stipticus.

Good luck in your hunt!


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: crowseed]
    #25418519 - 08/28/18 06:19 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

No worries, you know who to pm when they fruit :wink:
Yes, it's solely for the biolumunescent properties.
Cheers mate!


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: OericOss]
    #25440236 - 09/06/18 02:37 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I have grown the mycelium of some Armillaria species, possibly borealis, on agar and grain, and while it is possible to see it glow, it is very faint and requires complete darkness. It helps if you let your eyes adapt to the darkness and use your periferal vision (it is more light sensitive than direct vision).


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: Pinback]
    #25442295 - 09/07/18 09:52 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for your input Pinback!
My conclusion is that if you growing solely for bioluminescens, it's best
to go with Panellus stipticus.


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Re: A grow of Armillaria tabescens for its bioluminescent properties? [Re: OericOss]
    #25446659 - 09/09/18 04:34 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Armillaria is quite parasitic, even if it is often not directly the one to kill a tree it can weaken them enough for that to happen indirectly.. definitely not all fungi have the same kind of impact on the environment, for example there are certain fungi (that came here from asia as well) which wiped out a lot of iirc elms here.
On the other hand most fungi decay dead organic matter or only infect trees that are already fubar.

Anyway, i find this interesting because it could potentially be interesting to grow bioluminescent species for like a zoo as part of a fungus-based attraction. However from what I hear, the shine is pretty weak.. even at the right pH? Maybe if you had a lot of them but that would be costly to keep up and I imagine you would really need to protect from spore load (either way probably)..

For those who have successfully grown bioluminescent species (preferably a couple of times to improve the result), is it subtle or impressive.. what did you think? (yea let's say P. stipticus in a dark room?)


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