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OfflineSpivkurl
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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24912825 - 01/14/18 07:20 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

Been thoroughly busy since doing the recharge, but it seems to have helped so far. Of course I will need to wait the usual three weeks to be sure the fridge is not reacting the same way (major frost build up followed by lack of cool air to the lower fridge section).

The repair went easily with your help Grey Fox! So far I've measured the temps in the fridge ranging from 34-38F, which is just right to keep my stuff fresh! Had to turn the freezer baffle down actually, when my broccoli started getting frost on it (coldest part of the fridge).

Thanks for the help everyone!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24912903 - 01/14/18 08:12 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

I don’t know anything about fridges but if they are like AC units homes/cars. They refrigerant is in a closed system and should never deplete. And very doubtful it wasn’t filled correctly. Meaning if it’s running low and the coils are frosting up, then you have a leak. I realize you already recharged it but more than likely it will eventually go back to how it was. Have to find the leak and solder it. Then recharge again. Surprising how most auto parts stores will sell refrigerant to people without providing a license. Since you have to be certified to work on such things. Legally they aren’t supposed to sell it without you providing one. Not that it’s rocket science. But refrigerant is a CFC and damages the atmosphere of you let it escape. Hence the laws


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: h4dr0n]
    #24912985 - 01/14/18 09:00 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

The R134a does not require a license to use, for some reason. I have read many reports of refrigerators leaving the factory with insufficient coolant charge. Since this one was extremely cheap, it is a possibility. I know that at this point, it is working better than ever.

The leak is a possibility, though I know what that stuff smells like, and I don't notice it in our small kitchen. I do know how to solder if it comes down to it.

Thanks for the advice!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25044714 - 03/07/18 08:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

So, my fridge has been taken away and replaced with a brand new one. I couldn't handle the stress and suspense anymore. Dealt with paranoia about food safety four like six months now, and that's not good for me. Had to load the food into the upstairs fridge and back for defrosting too many times.

I don't know what the hell it's problem was. The frost went all the way to the compressor, which I had not noticed before, since it was always defrosted before I worked on it. The guys who took it away acted like they had never seen that before.

But either way, grabbed a nice new whirlpool "all refrigerator." We don't really eat frozen food, and that may have been part of the trouble. The kenmore manual said it works best when the freezer is 2/3 full, but it was usually just some ice cube trays!

If nothing else, having the ice upstairs might help with our drinking problem. We've been upping the proof of our booze consistently, with 100-151 being the most common... not good. We had a nice bottle of absinthe, and have another one which we're saving for my wife's birthday/opium season (136 proof, imported from france by my in laws, may they RIP). Hopefully beyond that we can stick to shrooms and weed until then.

Thanks for everyone's help, but I guess this was a bit beyond my abilities. Got the extended warranty on the new one. :laugh:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25047869 - 03/08/18 04:56 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Too bad you had to get a new fridge but at least now you can have peace of mind about it and know that your food will be safe. Frost all the way to the compressor could mean that you overcharged the system, which will also cause it to have problems maintaining temperature.

I just recently had to recharge my fridge again. So it went about a year from the original recharge. There must be a small leak in the system. But if it goes a year in between needing to be recharged thats not too bad.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25048013 - 03/08/18 07:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I started to get paranoid about breathing coolant as well, but maybe the paranoia was FROM breathing coolant... who knows. Either way this fridge seems to be a step up.

Maybe the gauge on the adapter hose I got was inaccurate, since it seemed to read the right amount of pressure when I charged it. Doesn't matter now I suppose.

It's time to grow some garden seeds and get off the booze, so I have more important things to use my time and energy on.

I really appreciate the help though Grey Fox!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25048076 - 03/08/18 08:35 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:grampofapproval:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25048093 - 03/08/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

SEEDS!





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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25048202 - 03/08/18 10:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #25048228 - 03/08/18 10:29 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #25048236 - 03/08/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Spivkurl said:
Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.




Quote from a customer: “After a year of mainly growing WW it's hard to imagine growing anything else. The size of these buds are huge, hard, and full of frosty white crystals. The taste is wonderful to the palate. These plants might be best Nirvana has to sell.” - John A.



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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25048307 - 03/08/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
Quote:

Spivkurl said:
Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.




Quote from a customer: “After a year of mainly growing WW it's hard to imagine growing anything else. The size of these buds are huge, hard, and full of frosty white crystals. The taste is wonderful to the palate. These plants might be best Nirvana has to sell.” - John A.






Yep, that's the one! Been growing various phenomes of this for years now. Hadn't started a new seed in a couple of years either... kept the same pheno going through 2016 by bringing clones outside, and then cloning them for the winter indo. Only one seed left now.

I guess the main consistent issue is the coughing. A green hit can knock me on my ass just from lack of oxygen to my brain, due to coughing fits. Not the most medicinal bud in the world, at least for my wife and I, since certain phenomes can induce a lot of paranoia and near psychosis (which we deal with already).

I dig hallucinations though, and I'm used to them... so it's one of my favorite buds. Along with some shrooms, a bowl of this can sit there for hours, just a toke here and there.


Edited by Spivkurl (03/08/18 11:12 AM)


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25048319 - 03/08/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




Good to know for future reference. I was just desperate... now things are looking up financially through all the worst of means. Mother and father in law both died this year.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25049411 - 03/08/18 02:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25112528 - 04/04/18 12:15 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Grey Fox said:
Quote:

orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?




Why charge it, when its leaking? all your doing is putting chemicals into the atmosphere.
sure you can get a low side reading. maybe make it work for some youtube video monetization .but doubtful its going to work proper if its refrigerant alone. electronic parts are usually no problem at all.

do you want your food to be relying on whether or not this machine runs proper, keep checking on it, over icing, not thawing because its over charged. these things are made with very little margin for error. then you have to keep tweeking it. its not really worth it, unless you want to experiment ..

here we can get fridge for around 299$. not going to be a double door ice maker. but ice makers are stupid, take up half a freezer.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25112937 - 04/04/18 07:08 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

orison319 said:
Quote:

Grey Fox said:
Quote:

orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?




Why charge it, when its leaking? all your doing is putting chemicals into the atmosphere.
sure you can get a low side reading. maybe make it work for some youtube video monetization .but doubtful its going to work proper if its refrigerant alone. electronic parts are usually no problem at all.

do you want your food to be relying on whether or not this machine runs proper, keep checking on it, over icing, not thawing because its over charged. these things are made with very little margin for error. then you have to keep tweeking it. its not really worth it, unless you want to experiment ..

here we can get fridge for around 299$. not going to be a double door ice maker. but ice makers are stupid, take up half a freezer.




We spent about $1000 on our replacement. All refrigerator like we have wanted for a long time. We have another one upstairs for ice, so it works out. We don't use much frozen stuff. The new one has four crispers, so we're all ready for our veggie garden this year... :smile:

I got really sick of the paranoia that the struggle with the old fridge caused. I hate getting food poisoning big time. Having one that works, consistently around 36F, is a big relief.

Now we get to replace our furnace :\


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25416577 - 08/27/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

So, here we are, about six months after spending around $1000 on a new whirlpool "all refrigerator." Back in the same position, except under warranty. It's a great indication of modern craftsmanship.

Our previous fridge had to be serviced at about the six month point as well.

This one has a bad digital control board, and stopped going into the defrost cycle... peaked at about 55 degrees F while running constantly. Again dragging all of the food left to the upstairs fridge, while we manually defrost.

I wonder how much one must spend to have a fridge that is reliable? I'm guessing in this economic and environmental climate, it wouldn't matter. We get to sit here and wait while they source a part, with no ideas on time frame.

Sorry to rant. it is just frustrating. :facepalm:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #25446434 - 09/09/18 12:10 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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