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AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO)
    #25443443 - 09/07/18 09:26 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EXISTING DESIGNER

A law does not determine the form and the being of a creature. It is the other way around. Laws are formulated by a designer, to preserve and discipline the existence, the movements, the symbiotic relationships, and survival of integral extant things.

Nature has laws, and laws did not create nature but the Creator of nature predetermined its laws.

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THE ROMANS 11:24 (RSV)
For if you have been cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree.





Scientific knowledge nowadays, have realized the potential harm that can be caused by harsh human intervention in nature. Notice the emphasis of these products on non-GMO, for example.



The Institute for Responsible Technology (IRT) has been writing about the dangers of GMO foods. (Ref: http://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers).GMO stands for genetically modified organism defined in the dictionary as “the result of a laboratory process where genes from the DNA of one species are extracted and artificially forced into the genes of an unrelated plant or animal. The foreign genes may come from bacteria, viruses, insects, animals or even humans.”

Are they safe?

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) doesn’t think so. The Academy reported that “Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. The AAEM asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods.

Before the FDA decided to allow GMOs into food without labeling, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored.

    The report said some of the findings of the AAEM include:
  • (1)Thousands of sheep, buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants;
  • (2) Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies;
  • (3) More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller;
  • (4)Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly;
  • (5) By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies;
  • (6) Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity;
  • (7) Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen;
  • (8)Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced;
  • (9)The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer. Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.

As seen in the report, interventions in the studies involved Bt cotton plants, corn, soy, and potatoes. The report further said –

Unlike safety evaluations for drugs, there are no human clinical trials of GM foods. The only published human feeding experiment revealed that the genetic material inserted into GM soy transfers into bacteria living inside our intestines and continues to function. This means that long after we stop eating GM foods, we may still have their GM proteins produced continuously inside us.


Implications for interventions point to super diseases, but that is not all. The point is that such diseases are not within easy control of man. Studies hypothesize on GM corn, for example, and lay down the problem: turning intestinal bacteria into living pesticide factories. Here is the last part of the report –

If the antibiotic gene inserted into most GM crops were to transfer, it could create super diseases, resistant to antibiotics. If the gene that creates Bt-toxin in GM corn were to transfer, it might turn our intestinal bacteria into living pesticide factories. Although no studies have evaluated if antibiotic or Bt-toxin genes transfer, that is one of the key problems. The safety assessments are too superficial to even identify most of the potential dangers from GMOs.


What does the Bible say?

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LEVITICUS 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle engender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee.





The injunction is not to mix! And when there is an injunction, there is a purpose – to the best of man.
Nature is governed by laws but nature has not the capacity to formulate the law of nature. How can something that will exist, before its existence determine the law it will follow during its existence? Someone superior in knowledge and strength, someone above nature, a supernatural, called in the Bible “God,” ordained the laws of nature.

Obviously, the interdependence of living creatures upon each other is formulated by a Designer. It is absurd to think or hypothesize, for example, that evolution or natural selection formulated the symbiotic benefits being derived by humans from the billions of bacteria that thrive within human alimentary canal! It is purposed by the Designer of life. No way could it be otherwise.

My eyes are located in a place where they can be most efficient to serve their purpose: to see. It was placed by the Intelligent Designer at the front because the most convenient way of mobility is to look forward where you are heading to. And if you want to see what is at the back, you can simply turn around easily, or you can use a mirror or a camera! How awkward it would be if the eyes of an atheist were placed at the back of his head. That’s laughable but it’s a possibility – without an Intelligent Designer!

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PSALMS 94:9
He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see?





Even the godless Charles Darwin admits that it is absurd to think that the complexity of the functions of the human eye could have been formed by natural selection! (Ref: Charles Darwin, “On the Origin of Species, Chapter 6 – Difficulties on Theory, p.80)

ORGANS OF EXTREME PERFECTION AND COMPLICATION.
To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree.


Mathematical exactness cannot be determined by mutation and evolution. Mutation, as science knows it, is a kind of accidental mishap. How can it be logically and scientifically possible that the billion cells in the human body have exactly 46 chromosomes each – if there is no designer? Take note that with the exception of the sperm cell of a male person having only 23 chromosomes and the egg cell of a female person also having the same number, the combinations are necessary to make up 46 chromosomes that will start a new cell life – an exact one half coming from the father and an exact one half coming from the mate, having the exact number, and exact codes of information to pass on character traits to the offspring.



Some warm little pond, natural selection, survival of the fittest elimination of the unfit, or the whole idea of evolution cannot put all these things together with mathematical preciseness! The following are excerpts from LiveScience.com (Ref: http://www.livescience.com/474-controversyevolution-works.html) -

In the first edition of “The Origin of Species” in 1859, Charles Darwin speculated about how natural selection could cause a land mammal to turn into a whale. As a hypothetical example, Darwin used North American black bears, which were known to catch insects by swimming in the water with their mouths open:

“I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale,” he speculated.

The idea didn’t go over very well with the public. Darwin was so embarrassed by the ridicule he received that the swimming-bear passage was removed from later editions of the book.


Here is that part from Darwin –

Random mutations resulted in at least one whale having its nostrils placed farther back on its head. Those animals with this adaptation would have been better suited to a marine lifestyle, since they would not have had to completely surface to breathe. Such animals would have been more successful and had more offspring. In later generations, more mutations occurred, moving the nose farther back on the head.

Other body parts of early whales also changed. Front legs became flippers. Back legs disappeared. Their bodies became more streamlined and they developed tail flukes to better propel themselves through water.


The term random mutation is unacceptable to a real scientific mind! At the same time it is squarely unbiblical!

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ECCLESIASTES 3:14
I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.





Scientifically, all living things have DNA and genes – unknown to Darwin – that protect and preserve a definite species! God meant living things to produce its kind perpetually.

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GENESIS 1:21-22
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.





The phrases “after his kind,” and “after their kind,” means a definite species for every living thing. Findings in the Cambrian explosion prove this account in the Bible that most species existed simultaneously at the same time and not through natural selection. This denies the foolish idea of evolution. Notice the following in Darwin’s writings –

“If numerous species, belonging to the same genera or families, have really started into life all at once, the fact would be fatal to the theory to descent with slow modification though natural selection.” (Ref: Charles R. Darwin, ”The Origin of Species: The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life’ A Facsimile of the First Edition, Harvard University Press, 1964, p. 302).

“To the question why we do not find rich fossiliferous deposits belonging to these assumed earliest periods prior to the Cambrian system, I can give no satisfactory answer. …Nevertheless, the difficulty of assigning any good reason for the absence of vast piles of strata rich in fossils beneath the Cambrian is very great… The case at present must remain inexplicable; and may be truly urged as a valid argument against the views here entertained.” (Ref: Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species By Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of the Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life, 1872, pp. 316-317) –


While it is true that mutation happens among living things, random mutation is likely impossible in the vast periods of time that have passed. The perpetuation of a particular species is dictated and preserved in the DNA. So pollution, radiation, and harmful chemicals that may cause mutations are not as common and extant in the distant past when allegedly evolution started as it is nowadays! More so, random mutation! Hence, 23 plus 23 equals 46 cannot be a formula determined by random mutation. I must emphasize that even the godless Darwin said that “It is absurd to think that the human eye is formed by natural selection!” Darwin is much, much, much, much, much better in thinking than atheists of today!

The condition recorded in the Bible after creation is: Situation is very good!

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GENESIS 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.





There were no harmful man-made chemicals, no intermittent radiation in the environment caused by man’s invention such as microwaves, cellular phones, electrical appliances, etcetera, which can be possible causes of random mutation, why? Because the situation is very good!


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25443535 - 09/07/18 09:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

From our perspective, it looks perfect. Neat. As if it was put there and predetermined. This is us at our worst.

The simple way of thinking, deduction over all else. Nothing that I perceive is so perfect that it could not exist out of randomness. Then again I believe in an infinite. An idea, placeholder, if you will that is unfathomable. Especially considering our limited capacity to understand the mysteries we've discovered to just be awesome galactic events.


Our nature is to explain things mostly right away without any hint at what is actually physically happening. We have very powerful imaginations. Our perspectives are so vastly different form person to person that its a melting pot all on its own and an evolution too.

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While it is true that mutation happens among living things, random mutation is likely impossible in the vast periods of time that have passed. The perpetuation of a particular species is dictated and preserved in the DNA. So pollution, radiation, and harmful chemicals that may cause mutations are not as common and extant in the distant past when allegedly evolution started as it is nowadays! More so, random mutation! Hence, 23 plus 23 equals 46 cannot be a formula determined by random mutation. I must emphasize that even the godless Darwin said that “It is absurd to think that the human eye is formed by natural selection!” Darwin is much, much, much, much, much better in thinking than atheists of today!






You really could break this down until it holds no truth. Radiation is part of existence in this universe and its natural laws. Everywhere is the cosmos and it is everywhere. Time is the very thing that gives these things the infinite possibilities to occur (life.)

Thinking our world and everything on it is perfect and balanced is so impossible to judge. perfect lifeforms may already exist, and have transcended a physical form because it is messy, hard to maintain (wasteful) and prefer to take on the purest form possible in our universe/reality/dimension, energy.


We are such odd looking being, gangly, patchy haired, soft, and most importantly, ultra-violent. We take whatever we want, from wherever, however without regards to any other sentient being. The ultimate Shepard, and the ultimate destroyer of this world. We could chose to nurture with our perspective and knowledge and technology, selflessly, harmoniously. Yet we could also end everything this 4.6 billion year old rock has ever had. We could burn this mother***er down and leave every single future lifeform bound to its fate because we put so much space garbage around our pale blue dot, that leaving is impossible (70,000mph grains of sand? try the pebbles not!)

We could be better as a species. For everything that ever was, or ever will be. Right now, God isn't deciding, we are.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25443565 - 09/07/18 10:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah well I'm going to keep on eating gmo foods as long as selective breeding hasn't hurt me this far and those ever ripe tomatoes haven't arose  from the dead and cut my face up as well, thanks for the warning in advance , but I'll stick with the enhanced foods program if you will . God knows we need more food in a ever increasing populated world and good ole fashion farming prob isn't going to perform like it used to .


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25443676 - 09/07/18 10:58 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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You really could break this down until it holds no truth. Radiation is part of existence in this universe and its natural laws. Everywhere is the cosmos and it is everywhere. Time is the very thing that gives these things the infinite possibilities to occur (life.)



Ofcourse it is natural and is a part of creation, the perspective is can a body hold long enough to man made technological radiations? They have they usefulness together with its negative impacts and dangers.


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We are such odd looking being, gangly, patchy haired, soft, and most importantly, ultra-violent.



My wife is soft with a long hair.
We are the most beautiful part of the creation.
Though weve been infected by that ugly greed.


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Gorguss said:
God isn't deciding, we are.



Every individual are just a single tiny part of Him gifted with free-will.


Edited by pacmanbreed (09/08/18 12:47 AM)


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25447095 - 09/09/18 10:52 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

If it wasn't for your amount of posts, i'd guess troll and never have posted. Truth is people who understand what most of us (atheists) do, do not need an answer. We are discovering them as we progress along and seek out the truths. We look down on most people who have the tie to a greater power as watered down fear and ignorance. Its caused many more problems than it has ever solved. It was born out of greed my friend, not corrupted by it. The very thing you call free will is in fact your chains. Wrapped around your mind so tightly it isn't bound unwillingly, but bound unknowingly, a slave to a fantastically inconsistent and horrible story. Me not believing in a place where friends, family and equally innocent strangers burn forever in lakes of hell for (insert reason here.) Is freedom of fear of death AND existence.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Ferrum]
    #25447122 - 09/09/18 11:02 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah well I'm going to keep on eating gmo foods as long as selective breeding hasn't hurt me this far and those ever ripe tomatoes haven't arose  from the dead and cut my face up as well, thanks for the warning in advance , but I'll stick with the enhanced foods program if you will . God knows we need more food in a ever increasing populated world and good ole fashion farming prob isn't going to perform like it used to .





We dont need more food. We need less animal food. There is a gigantic surplus of food on the planet right now. If it wasnt for certain countries thrist for meat, and we didnt slaughter 80 billion animals a year, we would have so much food to go around.

This is not to say I try to avoid meat because I care about the animal, I kind of do, but the main reason we need a shift in the American diet to plants over all other things is because it takes many times over pounds of feed (corn) to a pound of meat. Its like 24lbs of corn to 1lbs of Beef. Not to mention the water conversion, which is like 80gallons to 1lbs of beef. GMO's will have their issues along the way, but its not goign to be an issue that can't solved. Calorie dense food over nutritionally dense food is not a problem we can't fix either, but we need to fix it now.


Animal proteins is our cause of cancer, higher blood pressure, cholestrol, fats, and a poor microboime in our gut.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25447319 - 09/09/18 12:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Ferrum said:
Yeah well I'm going to keep on eating gmo foods as long as selective breeding hasn't hurt me this far and those ever ripe tomatoes haven't arose  from the dead and cut my face up as well, thanks for the warning in advance , but I'll stick with the enhanced foods program if you will . God knows we need more food in a ever increasing populated world and good ole fashion farming prob isn't going to perform like it used to .





We dont need more food. We need less animal food. There is a gigantic surplus of food on the planet right now. If it wasnt for certain countries thrist for meat, and we didnt slaughter 80 billion animals a year, we would have so much food to go around.

This is not to say I try to avoid meat because I care about the animal, I kind of do, but the main reason we need a shift in the American diet to plants over all other things is because it takes many times over pounds of feed (corn) to a pound of meat. Its like 24lbs of corn to 1lbs of Beef. Not to mention the water conversion, which is like 80gallons to 1lbs of beef. GMO's will have their issues along the way, but its not goign to be an issue that can't solved. Calorie dense food over nutritionally dense food is not a problem we can't fix either, but we need to fix it now.




Animal proteins is our cause of cancer, higher blood pressure, cholestrol, fats, and a poor microboime in our gut.




The human population will be at 12 billion near 2050. And you think our current food production, plant or meat will cover that ??? Ok buddy , we re going to have to adapt to faster producing plant products eg gmo that include plant foods that ripen faster and last longer . God knows people aren't going to stop fucking sorry , or eating meat, just how it is .


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25447387 - 09/09/18 12:45 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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If it wasn't for your amount of posts, i'd guess troll and never have posted. Truth is people who understand what most of us (atheists) do, do not need an answer. We are discovering them as we progress along and seek out the truths. We look down on most people who have the tie to a greater power as watered down fear and ignorance. Its caused many more problems than it has ever solved. It was born out of greed my friend, not corrupted by it. The very thing you call free will is in fact your chains. Wrapped around your mind so tightly it isn't bound unwillingly, but bound unknowingly, a slave to a fantastically inconsistent and horrible story. Me not believing in a place where friends, family and equally innocent strangers burn forever in lakes of hell for (insert reason here.) Is freedom of fear of death AND existence.




As usual we are born with that greed, That grows as we gets older, Even a mutation/infection can be passed on to the offsprings(Romans 5:12). Even as those divine instincts are inherited no matter what an indivual brand is(heathen etc), which is foremost important Instead us becoming nothing more than a mere wild animals. One thing for sure there is no instant hell after this life though there is an eternetity just like how buddha percieved it..
And by the way (many atheist have told me that) though i onced viewed spirituality & the Bible as nothing more than a fiction for a long time, i cant consider my-self as slave feeling this free from the world govern by hard to percieve undercover slavery.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25447394 - 09/09/18 12:48 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: Agreed, though its not prohibited to eat them, too much animal protien intake is one of causes speacially with those boosting hormones.

One issue of GMO's is that combining 2 unrelated species (eg. B. thuringiensis Cotton) will always have its issues.
That they must search closely related plants instead and combine those.
Just like what we do on shrooms like cubes. The only down fall is stabilization has much workload and needs time.

Being me a lover of greens and fruits etc just the way you do and I am retiring towards farming. What ive noticed is that even the locals without modifications have their way of balancing itself.
My tomatoes are dying and not producing well, infected with some kind of fungus. Despite the discouragement ive still planted their seeds from the last season of fruits produced. After 3rd generation they are quite hardened and producing abundantly.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Ferrum]
    #25447411 - 09/09/18 12:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Who knows by 2050 science will have a huge lift forward against its current state eg. Better plant to plant hybreeds.

I can sense it now, after being bombarded by chemical farming during ww2, we are currently producing great crops here in the tropical east, using scientific organic farming approach eg.(Probiotic farming), that resuslted in lessened mortality rates of our live stocks aswell.


Edited by pacmanbreed (09/10/18 11:53 PM)


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #25454401 - 09/12/18 11:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Yea look, I'm not trying to argue too many points here. I just wanted to let you know my honest opinion, religion and god are dying.  Spirituality and our connectedness to the rest of life on the planet and its place among rocks and gas giants falling towards our star. This imo is a good thing. We need to lean on each other like never before and understand what we are and grow. --Philosophy of Future Humans, Optimistically

As far as GMOs, I think the real problem is that its viewed as a product and nothing more. Making it better by spraying it is analogous to Humans taking pills for their health problems. Often times the answer is poor nutrition and diet. If you have arthitis and you consume almost an exclusively inflammatory diet, what do you expect to happen? If you have a diet exceedingly high in Omega-6s and your fatty acids are out of balance (theres a proper ratio for this in our bodies and its something like 1:3 or 1:4, Omega-3s to your 6's.) Though today its more like 1:25 or 1:30. So this idea of taking MORE OMEGA-3s to fix this imbalance is freaking crazy!
--Humans problem solving: A Pill for every Ill


The plant, reguardless of wether its enhanced by another plants genetic advantages, STILL needs a proper balance. There is something like ~52 minerals a plant needs to grow and be able to defend itself, as humans would do getting an infection. Where are the fertilizers with the Zinc, Manganese, Magnesium, Copper? Where are is the biodiverse in our commercial soils we once spent our lives building up to pass on for generations to come?Biodiversity in soils is more effective at growing large, healthy and tasty plants than any fertilizer we've ever produced. Roundup effectively sterilizes and kills such a large percent of the life in the ground. The shift from our misuse and dependence on this chemical age will baffle the future. Our time will be looked at as a stubborn and possibly willfully ignorant one. 
--GMOs

I understand the old ways* will not make sense to those in it as, well, old. People leaving behind this notion that we are different from any other sentient being should, hopefully sooner than later, be learned from.
--My understanding of most Christian views/out comes, condensed*:

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We have a special, immortal, part of us that lives on in paradise; Or conversely suffers in the most horrible agony imaginable.




*Whenever I refer to god or the like this is basically what I think. No one I've ever met has taught me anything more than very basic and finite black and white principles that just don't make sense.
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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25454561 - 09/12/18 12:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I choosed partially in honest manner, I get your point of views as a citizen in the west with a keen observation & i agree that most religious groups(specially originated there) in our time teach it in a black & white manner for self-benefit specially for the love of money, creating fear among men instead of teaching it not to loose hope, faith, & love. That it is dying, and we actually consider it as long been burried for a long time as a country in the east though its finnaly reviving in our part.

we may have different spiritual beliefs but i really appreciate you, specially have mentioned those chem-ferts, pill for every ill, symbiosis diversiry, care for life forms, and not good animal protien diet,

Speaking of all those that mentioned above. In a grand picture We as a part of symbiosis are not actually carnivores, omnivores, granivores, pure vegetarian(herbivore) but are frugivore.
Ive gradually switched to more fruits and veg diets for good, after suffering weakened kidneys.
Source: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #25468191 - 09/17/18 10:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I choosed partially in honest manner, I get your point of views as a citizen in the west with a keen observation & i agree that most religious groups(specially originated there) in our time teach it in a black & white manner for self-benefit specially for the love of money, creating fear among men instead of teaching it not to loose hope, faith, & love. That it is dying, and we actually consider it as long been burried for a long time as a country in the east though its finnaly reviving in our part.

we may have different spiritual beliefs but i really appreciate you, specially have mentioned those chem-ferts, pill for every ill, symbiosis diversiry, care for life forms, and not good animal protien diet,

Speaking of all those that mentioned above. In a grand picture We as a part of symbiosis are not actually carnivores, omnivores, granivores, pure vegetarian(herbivore) but are frugivore.
Ive gradually switched to more fruits and veg diets for good, after suffering weakened kidneys.
Source: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm




If I'd known you knew so much, I may have responded differently all together. Yes, frugivore is spot on. It is unfortunate people are spoon fed things and they do not know, making them innocent. But the people doing it are so goddamn wrong, it is in fact, about as "evil" as one can be. I have a friend, whos friend is..."battling" cancer and standard "treatment." I know he will die of it. Though he may be immortalized as a cancer "survivor" after 5 years from diagnosis, even if it is the very same cancer that kills him. This is just one example of a system born out of ignorance and too stubborn to change its mind. Too much time has been sunk into it. Though fundamentally wrong, it has proven a highly profitable mistake, to those running this flawed system; of course I am referring to standard cancer treatment methods of the west, Chemical and Radiation. Killing the body seems to be our solution to the body already dying of cellular malfunction. Why not throw gasoline on the fire to put it out faster? I mean I really dont understand how this has gone on with our knowledge today without a full on rebellion.

The Gerson therapy may not be perfect (this isn't suggesting it isn't either) But I think realizing our "treatments" and "therapy" is wrong and searching for a "cure" is wrong is step one. Then we need to work our way back up starting from the reasons why the disease may exist in the first place, what caused it? Approaching it this way will unveil the root of the problem and can be removed of it. The body has a natural want to be healthy and normal, "Homeostasis." Virtually every food has one of two things, from my understanding. It either has Anti-oxidants, or it has or turns into Free Radicals. If one were to consume a diet 95% or greater in anti-oxidant rich foods, is there really a probability of getting cancer? Conversely eating a diet containing 95% or greater, free radical rich foods, you see where I'm going with this?

It is super cheap to eat a nutritionally dense, calorically adequate diet rich in anti-oxidant foods. It is, by factors of hundreds of times more environmentally sound and sustainable.

Anyway... I'll end this little rant. I thank you for appreciating my perspective. There may be hope left in us humans after all. Here's hoping, cheers.


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Re: AN EXISTING DESIGNER (beware of GMO) [Re: Gorguss]
    #25468928 - 09/18/18 07:43 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for mentioning Gerson therapy gonna dig into it, im juicing greens & fruits for months now. As a man of the east alternatives are highly appealing to us eg. O3(ozone) instead of antibiotics etc, even statin drugs for cholesterol is purely wrong for it blocks the production of coenzyme Q10(COQ10) in the liver which can aggrevate heart attack.

well said & spot on, finding the source is much cheaper and sustainable, its much important than the cure.
There is still hope that someday there will a be a revolution(just like the digital age) interms of this for our little ones.
Well pleased & glad to meet such great minds & hearts w/ good perspective here in the forums.
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