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Police appreciation thread * 2
    #25442734 - 09/07/18 02:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

This thread is to post anything and everything about the police. Crimes, fuck ups, funny stories, incompetence etc. Think of it as a cop block thread. Ill start first.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/07/us/dallas-police-shooting/index.html

This cop gets off shift, enters the wrong appartment and fatally shoots the occupant. How the fuck do you walk into someone else's appartment thinking its your own?:justkillmenow:

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 11
    #25442859 - 09/07/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

How do you get the wrong apartment then immediately shoot the guy living there. Oh sorry my bad. I’ll take a week off paid leave.

You think the resident would have gotten a paid vacation if he shot the cop who broke into his apartment?

American police forces are the most corrupt institutions in America. They are rotten to the core.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25442900 - 09/07/18 03:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

acab


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25442959 - 09/07/18 04:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Hahaha, you had me coming in here ready to shut down some cop lovers. Nice surprise. Here are a few of my favourite acab songs:

Thanks Bastards! by the Mischief Brew


One Dead Cop, by Leftover Crack


Cop Killer, by Body Count


Deep Cover, by Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #25442972 - 09/07/18 04:11 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Polic Break Bad Series; aims to raise awareness of police brutality and remember the victims


1993, Waco seige


1999, Seattle WTO protests


2001, Genoa G8 protests


2010, Toronto G20 protests


2011, Egyptian protests


2011, Occupy protests


2012, Québec student protests


2013, Turkish protests


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25442982 - 09/07/18 04:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 2
    #25442983 - 09/07/18 04:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

When Protesters Strike Back; because we have to remember we aren't powerless


2017 edition


We are #1 (a personal favorite)


2016 edition


2016 French labour reforms


2015 edition


2015 extended edition


2014 edition


2013 edition


2013-14 Ukrainian protests


2012 edition


Anti Narita airport protests


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: wannabmckenna]
    #25443000 - 09/07/18 04:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 2
    #25443110 - 09/07/18 05:15 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Cops is a good show. I like watching the crack heads in Florida claim someone planted drugs in their car.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25443222 - 09/07/18 06:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Hahaha, you had me coming in here ready to shut down some cop lovers. Nice surprise. Here are a few of my favourite acab songs:

Thanks Bastards! by the Mischief Brew


One Dead Cop, by Leftover Crack


Cop Killer, by Body Count


Deep Cover, by Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg





I saw Body Count at Lollapalooza in
1991. Lol. Anyway, the paramilitary patrols that some cops do... have to go along with racial aspects of their work. I can tell you there is no way I could be a cop (I don't have the restraint) nor want to be one. I think the crooked ones really fuck it up, for the decent ones(and society as a whole).


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #25443234 - 09/07/18 06:14 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Anyway, the paramilitary patrols that some cops do... have to go along with racial aspects of their work.



Can you clarify what you mean by this?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25443467 - 09/07/18 07:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

The gear and tactics they get resemble a militarized unit. Yes, swat teams are needed in some situations..... it currently is more prevalent than needed. Insert prejudice, racism to amplify it.

https://amp.economist.com/united-states/2014/03/20/cops-or-soldiers


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (09/07/18 07:36 PM)

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot] * 2
    #25443533 - 09/07/18 07:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Blue lives matter.

Love the police and all the times they helped me out.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: XUL] * 4
    #25443558 - 09/07/18 08:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, being white can be pretty cool


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 2
    #25443631 - 09/07/18 08:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, being white is cool.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 3
    #25443707 - 09/07/18 09:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I was driving through the States with my buddy from Philly - he comes from an upper-class Ukrainian family - self-admitted bourgeois.

His car had a slow leak in one tire, and we needed to find a garage to get it patched. He sees a cop parked at a gas station and his first reaction was to say "I'll go ask the cop for directions," because in his mind police are there to help you.

I put a stop to that, saying "never involve the police in your life voluntarily." Then a little lecture on the topic of acab.

It was seriously surprising to see how rich white people view the police. Personally, the police have rarely helped me; but they've definitely gone out of their way countless times to hassle me, threaten me, and try to ruin my life. I don't feel safe around cops. I don't involve them in my life unless they force it on me.

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Love the police and all the times they helped me out.



Why are you getting into multiple situations that require police assistance? In what ways have you been helped?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25443713 - 09/07/18 09:15 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Car was towed. I waved down an officer and he helped me find and took me to my car.

My identity was stolen. I called 911 when I knew where the guy was. They picked him up.

Occasionally on fire calls they were useful.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #25444571 - 09/08/18 07:41 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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The gear and tactics they get resemble a militarized unit. Yes, swat teams are needed in some situations..... it currently is more prevalent than needed. Insert prejudice, racism to amplify it.

https://amp.economist.com/united-states/2014/03/20/cops-or-soldiers




This is how they get around posse comitatus. If you can't use the military as police, then turn the police into the military.

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MycoMinded]
    #25444723 - 09/08/18 09:05 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CVy36_1536262313

"slammed my neck man ahhhhhhhh" too fucking funny



17 offences including having a firearm and running from cops, out on signature bond before cops can do their paperwork.



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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: JHOVA]
    #25444761 - 09/08/18 09:28 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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running from cops




You say that like it's a bad thing.



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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #25444770 - 09/08/18 09:30 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

This whole album is great - but this song in particular really gets my acab spirit fired up.



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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25445365 - 09/08/18 03:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Here's some more police appreciation...

Angry, angry, spiritually immature cretins devoid of compassion herd the common man like cattle to keep them out of sight of the so-called elite who exploit them.  That's police work.

Shoot your fucking heroin and die


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: JHOVA] * 3
    #25445374 - 09/08/18 03:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CVy36_1536262313

"slammed my neck man ahhhhhhhh" too fucking funny



17 offences including having a firearm and running from cops, out on signature bond before cops can do their paperwork.






Running from cops? Cops are the most dangerous demographic in America. They are responsible for 8% of all homicides despite only making up 1% of the population. You should run. They are the menace.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 2
    #25445394 - 09/08/18 03:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

That is the worst advice I have ever heard.

If you want to get shot, electrified, or tackled, then run.

If you want to ensure life, then follow their instructions.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: XUL] * 4
    #25445416 - 09/08/18 03:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What exactly do conservatives think the tyranny they are so afraid of looks like? To me tyranny is an unaccountable police state.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 1
    #25445451 - 09/08/18 03:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

you get a darwin award


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25445464 - 09/08/18 04:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I dislike when cops overstep their boundaries. In my past, I have held them accountable and even beat them in court.

Me? I fear massive government control and the inability for the populace to fight back against it. beIN disarmed, being told what is appropriate to say, and letting the government take control


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: XUL]
    #25445485 - 09/08/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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If you want to ensure life, then follow their instructions.




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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: wannabmckenna] * 2
    #25445498 - 09/08/18 04:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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im such a snitch im on a website for CLASS A  OR SCHEDULE 1 SUBSTANCE but i like the police because they found my car wait till they find youre electronic devices and throw away the key


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: wannabmckenna]
    #25445523 - 09/08/18 04:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Like Tommy Robinson and his camera?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: XUL]
    #25445529 - 09/08/18 04:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yes like him you hotdog


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: wannabmckenna]
    #25445721 - 09/08/18 05:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I'm joining the crips on the inside.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: wannabmckenna]
    #25447402 - 09/09/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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im such a snitch im on a website for CLASS A  OR SCHEDULE 1 SUBSTANCE but i like the police because they found my car wait till they find youre electronic devices and throw away the key



that makes up for everything else?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25447412 - 09/09/18 10:55 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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This thread is to post anything and everything about the police. Crimes, fuck ups, funny stories, incompetence etc. Think of it as a cop block thread. Ill start first.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/07/us/dallas-police-shooting/index.html

This cop gets off shift, enters the wrong appartment and fatally shoots the occupant. How the fuck do you walk into someone else's appartment thinking its your own?:justkillmenow:



this story is bizarre. I've seen allegations that she knew the victim.. I wouldn't put anything past American cops.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Tipote]
    #25455615 - 09/12/18 06:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

No kidding. How did she even get in? Does she not lock her doors? Does she have the exact same furniture and lay out? And as koods said, why would she immediately shoot him?

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25455617 - 09/12/18 06:01 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Polic Break Bad Series; aims to raise awareness of police brutality and remember the victims


1993, Waco seige


1999, Seattle WTO protests


2001, Genoa G8 protests


2010, Toronto G20 protests


2011, Egyptian protests


2011, Occupy protests


2012, Québec student protests


2013, Turkish protests




Excellent post. Thanks for sharing :thumbup::thumbup:

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #25457643 - 09/13/18 02:30 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I had 5 years of my life and 100 grand thrown down the toilet after I got illegally detained for walking my dog.
A cop came up and hassled me for literally no reason, illegally detained me for 45 minutes, "charged" me with several BS charges, that were so BS that even though he filled out the paperwork for them I was never actually charged, I never had a court date or any charges on my record. I did however have an "extreme incident involving the police" on my college campus and got kicked out for it 2 weeks before graduating.


I got arrested on thanksgiving for a violent felony. The incident that I was arrested for did not even happen. The charge I got was completely unrelated to the made up incident, so even if it did happen it was an entirely inappropriate charge, to the point that the magistrate was asking me why i had been charged with it when she was reading the report and told me that I needed to take an official complaint out against this cop. When a magistrate is telling you to take out a complaint against an officer unprompted I'm pretty sure that's fucked.

Cops are pieces of fucking shit. All of them. If you aren't actively harming people as a cop you are at the very least helping facilitate your coworkers harming society.

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: GrowinDaMushies]
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25474457 - 09/20/18 05:42 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Slave Patrols and Civil Servants: A History of Policing in Two Modes
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The police are the absolute enemy. Grounded in slave patrols in the early American South, the institution has an unbroken history of protecting and upholding white supremacy. Recent movements in the United States have clarified this lineage of racist violence, beginning with slave patrols and culminating in indiscriminate police killings of black bodies. But white supremacy is not the only function of the police: the history of British policing is one of capturing and controlling unruly workers—of the creation of “white working class” subjects through a process of inclusion, discipline, and education. The police have a dual history: one of violent exclusion, one of insidious inclusion. If our opposition to the police rests only on their heritage of racism or class oppression, then we risk attacking a symptom instead of uprooting the whole. We are against the police not only for their clubs and their guns, but also for the ways they infiltrate our minds, making us citizen-cops and unwitting accomplices.




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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25475297 - 09/20/18 12:58 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I can get behind a lot of the article's you have sent, but these articles that want to blame everything on the white man are hard to digest. This one, and the violence is necessary article seem to want to blame the world's problems on the white man. Im not sure why they cant write the same articles without referencing and blaming whites. I don't know if its a cop out or if they're just race baiting whites to try and hold the readers attention. I just feel that the white bashing is unwarranted and they can get their points across without such

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 5
    #25475379 - 09/20/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

You need to make sure that you don't mistake criticism of white supremacy with blaming all white people.

It's undeniable that western society was built on, amongst other notions, the idea of white supremacy. Because of this, it's impossible to fully criticize things without including a criticism of white supremacy, the power structures that were built in support of white supremacy, and how these power structures may still remain to be dismantled.

For example, in the article white supremacy is brought up in discussing the roots of modern day policing in slave patrols of the American south. How does one discuss slave patrols and their development into modern day police forces without discussing white supremacy too?


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    #25531519 - 10/12/18 06:39 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

https://youtu.be/dOqzPm7NgVQ

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    #25531572 - 10/12/18 07:13 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Get a haircut, and get a real job!


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    #25532256 - 10/12/18 12:59 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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    #25532419 - 10/12/18 02:17 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Laws.


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    #25532689 - 10/12/18 04:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

And yet when the police break the law you defend the police


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    #25532691 - 10/12/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Hell, when judges break the law you cheer on their promotion.


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    #25532848 - 10/12/18 05:30 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.

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    #25532852 - 10/12/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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    #25532866 - 10/12/18 05:38 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




The issue is, what do "good" cops do when the bad one's violate rights and break the law? 

Turning a blind eye doesn't mean they're not complicit.

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    #25532875 - 10/12/18 05:43 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

There are no good cops. Good cops get rats stuck under their windshield wipers. Good cops get death threats. Good cops quit or get fired. The police forces in America are utterly corrupt organizations that act more like street gangs than public servants.


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    #25532963 - 10/12/18 06:31 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

That's not far off base.

All my experiences with police have left a lot to be desired.

I just wish they stuck to dealing with violent crimes and left us horrible satanic drug users to our own volition.

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    #25532968 - 10/12/18 06:36 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Here’s a good story about a cop who tried to be good

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent/act-two-0

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For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do. For example, downgrading real crimes into lesser ones, so they wouldn't show up in the crime statistics and make their precinct look bad. Adrian's story first appeared as a five part series in the Village Voice, written by Graham Rayman. (41 minutes)




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    #25533134 - 10/12/18 07:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Here’s a good story about a cop who tried to be good

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent/act-two-0

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For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do. For example, downgrading real crimes into lesser ones, so they wouldn't show up in the crime statistics and make their precinct look bad. Adrian's story first appeared as a five part series in the Village Voice, written by Graham Rayman. (41 minutes)







That's a very interesting and disturbing recording regarding the police in New York. Very disturbing.


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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




Listening to that recording koods posted brought a wave of stress over me as I remembered the numerous occassions that I've been fucked over by the police.
20 years old, growing 120 plants, I was looking at imprisonment, the only thing in my favour was it was my first offence. Police stole my rent money and electricity money and I ended up into forced rehab, 2 years probation reporting, psychiatric evaluations, for growing cannabis.
The reason I was growing? It was the only thing that calmed me down as I wasn't aware I had/still have a mild case of PTSD after having the shit flogged out of me a year earlier in the local watch house for the heinous crime of being drunk.
Go forward a few more years, 3 more police raids for cannabis, twice I have had my house trashed during a raid. There are a few more situations I could blab on about but you get the picture.
People want and need a police force they can TRUST and RESPECT, I want to be able to trust and respect police but I physically can't even be around you lot without my stomach twisting into a knot, waves of nausea flooding my body, and sweating profusely. That's just how it is now.
Something has to change. The pot helps but it isn't working quite as well as it used to, that's why I've ended up here, looking at using mushrooms and maybe dmt. That's how the police have helped me grrrrrrr

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    #25533980 - 10/13/18 08:27 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Oklahoma Police Chief Who Lost Job Because of Neo-Nazi Ties Gets Hired for New Police Job

In the Uk this is a terrorist organisation

Cops are not only entitled little shits with delusions of grandeur to lord over non-cops but that mentality attracts some of the most bigoted, fascist, authoritarian shits in the world. They are control freaks with anger issues and often deeply held prejudices. and the few half decent cops that exist tend to get coopted or end up dismissed for raising the issue to their superiors. 

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    #25534111 - 10/13/18 09:38 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

90% of cops were those under-achieving jock asshole types with a huge chip on their shoulder and a fascination with violence and a craving for praise and to be hero worshipped. Many have lived their lives on the edge of the law and some would live a criminal lifestyle were it not for their job. A decent number legitimately want to kill people.


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    #25534368 - 10/13/18 11:51 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Slave Patrols and Civil Servants: A History of Policing in Two Modes
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The police are the absolute enemy. Grounded in slave patrols in the early American South, the institution has an unbroken history of protecting and upholding white supremacy. Recent movements in the United States have clarified this lineage of racist violence, beginning with slave patrols and culminating in indiscriminate police killings of black bodies. But white supremacy is not the only function of the police: the history of British policing is one of capturing and controlling unruly workers—of the creation of “white working class” subjects through a process of inclusion, discipline, and education. The police have a dual history: one of violent exclusion, one of insidious inclusion. If our opposition to the police rests only on their heritage of racism or class oppression, then we risk attacking a symptom instead of uprooting the whole. We are against the police not only for their clubs and their guns, but also for the ways they infiltrate our minds, making us citizen-cops and unwitting accomplices.





That's kind of ridiculous. I'm sure it happens in some places, but for the most part, a black cop will keep an extra close eye on blacks, mexican cops on mexicans, etc.

Nothing wrong with looking out for your own people as long as you don't go to the extremes with it and start giving people a free pass to do fucked up shit based on their race.

Which is what the federal government's job is.

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    #25534370 - 10/13/18 11:52 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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There are no good cops. Good cops get rats stuck under their windshield wipers. Good cops get death threats. Good cops quit or get fired. The police forces in America are utterly corrupt organizations that act more like street gangs than public servants.



Care to point out a single government in the world that isn't corrupt?

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    #25534376 - 10/13/18 11:58 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Here’s a good story about a cop who tried to be good

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent/act-two-0

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For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do. For example, downgrading real crimes into lesser ones, so they wouldn't show up in the crime statistics and make their precinct look bad. Adrian's story first appeared as a five part series in the Village Voice, written by Graham Rayman. (41 minutes)







That's a very interesting and disturbing recording regarding the police in New York. Very disturbing.


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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




Listening to that recording koods posted brought a wave of stress over me as I remembered the numerous occassions that I've been fucked over by the police.
20 years old, growing 120 plants, I was looking at imprisonment, the only thing in my favour was it was my first offence. Police stole my rent money and electricity money and I ended up into forced rehab, 2 years probation reporting, psychiatric evaluations, for growing cannabis.
The reason I was growing? It was the only thing that calmed me down as I wasn't aware I had/still have a mild case of PTSD after having the shit flogged out of me a year earlier in the local watch house for the heinous crime of being drunk.
Go forward a few more years, 3 more police raids for cannabis, twice I have had my house trashed during a raid. There are a few more situations I could blab on about but you get the picture.
People want and need a police force they can TRUST and RESPECT, I want to be able to trust and respect police but I physically can't even be around you lot without my stomach twisting into a knot, waves of nausea flooding my body, and sweating profusely. That's just how it is now.
Something has to change. The pot helps but it isn't working quite as well as it used to, that's why I've ended up here, looking at using mushrooms and maybe dmt. That's how the police have helped me grrrrrrr


Well, maybe you should be more understanding of the police. A lot of police have PTSD as well. A lot, in some cases over 75% are ex military. What do you expect?

I mean people act surprised when police are jumpy or trigger happy. Who else do you think is going to do that shitty job? Sure, you get to sit in an air conditioned squad car or office, but there's still going to be the times when you get a call and some psycho possibly covered in his own shit and blood may lunge at you with a knife or shoot at you. Seriously, why would you expect nice Andy Griffith types to be doing that job?

I've had my share of encounters with the bad ones. But I know how to act around different kinds of people. The first time I got handcuffed for talking shit and thrown into a squad car. After that, I learned my lesson. Treat cops with respect and talk articulately and usually they'll treat you accordingly. That has been the case with myself and the various black and mexicans I've known throughout the years that've encountered cops and sometimes been arrested for different crimes.

Remember, they don't make the laws. If they did, most cops wouldn't want to arrest you for pot or mushrooms. Those laws wouldn't exist.

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    #25534500 - 10/13/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/are-police-breaking-the-law-to-campaign-against-marijuana-legalization/

Police and prison unions have protested against the legalization of marijuana since day one across the entire US.

It's a big business for them and it's solid job security.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-marijuana-legalization_us_5876889be4b03c8a02d4f097

Only 1/3 of cops support marijuana legalization.

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    #25534558 - 10/13/18 01:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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https://www.marijuanamoment.net/are-police-breaking-the-law-to-campaign-against-marijuana-legalization/

Police and prison unions have protested against the legalization of marijuana since day one across the entire US.

It's a big business for them and it's solid job security.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-marijuana-legalization_us_5876889be4b03c8a02d4f097

Only 1/3 of cops support marijuana legalization.



Who hates cops? Democrats, antifa. Who violently assaults Trump supporters? Democrats, antifa.

What do you suppose happens to cops that don't go along with the program, even if most of them realize pot shouldn't be illegal?




Women and children were attacked as well, for supporting Trump. It's pretty rare to hear of people on the right being violent towards the left, and all too common to hear about violent leftists, even though media is mostly left.

Barry Cooper's life was sabotaged for speaking out against marijuana prohibition and the war on drugs. When people have good intentions sometimes they can't publicly reveal that, because they'll have to face backlash from those at the top.

Who do people really support, what do they really support? Since you may be violently attacked for your beliefs in this day and age, there is no way to really know. A lot of people would say they're anti marijuana just so they don't become targeted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insider_(film)

There's a lot of money behind this.

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    #25534671 - 10/13/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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There are no good cops. Good cops get rats stuck under their windshield wipers. Good cops get death threats. Good cops quit or get fired. The police forces in America are utterly corrupt organizations that act more like street gangs than public servants.



Care to point out a single government in the world that isn't corrupt?




Ok so because corruption is inevitable in any large organization, not just government, we should just give up and let it run amuck? No. That’s ridiculous. And the corruption in policing goes far beyond the kind of thing you see in other areas. The police have for the most part made themselves unaccountable. This is a serious problem when they are granted the authority and discretion to take lives .

While the police are public employees their corruption stems from the dominance of the FOP, which essentially runs police departments.

I just read today that in the PAST TWO YEARS, 500 Border patrol agents have been arrested for crimes like drug smuggling, bribery and murder. While that is insane, at least someone seems to be holding federal law enforcement to account.


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    #25534678 - 10/13/18 02:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Barry Cooper's life was sabotaged for speaking out against marijuana prohibition and the war on drugs. When people have good intentions sometimes they can't publicly reveal that, because they'll have to face backlash from those at the top.

Who do people really support, what do they really support? Since you may be violently attacked for your beliefs in this day and age, there is no way to really know. A lot of people would say they're anti marijuana just so they don't become targeted.




No shit. That is the corruption I’m talking about. Drugs need to remain illegal because the enforcement of drug laws is essentially the main business of amarican police.

Cops should have no say in what is illegal or not. It’s a total conflict of interest.

And you are just delusional if you think the right doesn’t have animus against the police and Law enforcement. There have been numerous fatal politically based attacks against police. The militia movement’s enenmy are federal law enforcement. The bundy’s spent two weeks in an armed stand off with law enforcement.


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    #25534912 - 10/13/18 04:27 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

This town is kinda close to me.

Cops used 'Big Blue' dildo to harass men and women, so town says lawsuit should be tossed
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Mountainside NJ is asking a judge to throw out an explosive sexual harassment lawsuit filed against the borough by five male police officers and a female dispatcher, partly on the grounds that alleged misconduct in the department -- including repeated displays of a large dildo -- was directed at both men and women.



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    #25535456 - 10/13/18 09:06 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




How do you justify enforcing laws which ruin peoples lives that you don't believe in? The only way I can justify that is that you are corrupt yourself. The way our system is the most "honest" cop is a corrupt one. That seems like a very conflicting view to have and I can't understand how one would maintain it.

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Well, maybe you should be more understanding of the police. A lot of police have PTSD as well. A lot, in some cases over 75% are ex military. What do you expect?





What do I expect? Are you serious?
I think I would have been a bit more understanding if I wasn't king hit while wiping the finger print ink off my hands and didn't end up with 5 stitches in my mouth, a black eye, cuts on my face and ear and missing a big chunk of hair from my head from the last punch.
If they are suffering PTSD what are they doing with a loaded gun in their possession?
Whilst I have a tiny amount of respect for you posting here as a cop it's impossible to overlook the evidence that A LOT of police are thugs and standover merchants.
You lot need to have a good look in the mirror.

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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.



Absolutely false.
Yes I only have anecdotal evidence, but the VAST majority of cops I have ever had the misfortune of interacting with beyond a passing greeting has been an overwhelmingly negative experience, and the vast majority of those negative experiences had the negativity initiated and escalated by the officer, not by me, and not a single interaction was EVER because I was doing something illegal. I even just had another horrible experience today.

I didn't suspect you to be a cop, but you are a huge crazy asshole. so I guess I'm not surprised.

FUCK YOU PIG! I hope you have a miserable life. Because you fucks have done your best to make mine miserable.



Maybe you should just pull your pants up or something and stop dressing like a gangster? I mean seriously, I live in a city that probably has way more cops than yours, and I don't get that kind of interaction. I've also lived in the hood where drive-by shootings are common-place and the cops there aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be.

Basically, if you want to draw negative attention to yourself, they'll view you that way. Just stop with the psychological projections already. The world needs peace, not "fuck da policee!!!!11"

Your mentality is the reason the world can't be more peaceful and productive. People like you are making cops even more jumpy, getting more innocent people caught in the crossfire. Your generalizations are the same thing racists do towards people of a different race than them. Prejudice.

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    #25536571 - 10/14/18 11:27 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Your mentality is the reason the world can't be more peaceful and productive. People like you are making cops even more jumpy, getting more innocent people caught in the crossfire.





What an idiotic thing to write. Words on the internet are not the reason the world can't be a more peaceful and productive place.

Words on the internet do not hurt people. That is just stupid, and its not how any of this works.

The police harass, kidnap, and imprison non-violent drug offenders over minor bullshit all the time.

Those actions aren't just words on the internet, those actions by police actually do ruin people's lives.

There is nothing peaceful or productive about ruining innocent, decent people's lives over inane bullshit like drugs.

The police are predatory, and they are the enemy of freedom loving people everywhere in the US.

I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.


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    #25536664 - 10/14/18 12:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then? Or the hood in chicago. Shit, try the hood in my city. I think you probably live in a quiet suburban area like a lot of police-hating liberals.

You'd rather take your chances with criminals than be around police, yet you live in a safe cushy area...

Police are a deterrent, they can't automatically save your ass when you're in trouble, but I guarantee they make a difference in whatever safe liberal yuppie enclave you live in.

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Cities have the highest concentration of liberals. The truth is literally the opposite of how you think the world is. In DC, 93% of the vote went to Hillary


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I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then?




As someone who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, I can tell you that going to Compton is one surefire way to increase ones odds of getting shot by a cop.  I once got pulled over on a test drive for a vehicle, thrown face down on the ground at gunpoint, handcuffed, then thrown in the back of a cruiser before they even asked for my ID.


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    #25536996 - 10/14/18 02:12 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

They don’t ask for ID from black guys. They just take it out of your pocket before your body is taken to the morgue.


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    #25537208 - 10/14/18 03:39 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

My work was based out of Carson for awhile.  I was always more concerned that the cops would fuck with me than any of the locals.  They didn't have any beef with me.  The mexicans and tongans that i worked with wouldn't go to inglewood though, so they always sent me or the other white guy to those jobs.


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    #25537505 - 10/14/18 05:39 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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think you probably live in a quiet suburban area like a lot of police-hating liberals




Cities have the highest concentration of liberals. The truth is literally the opposite of how you think the world is. In DC, 93% of the vote went to Hillary




Blacks automatically voting Democratic doesn't really mean the city is full of "liberals".  :lol:

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    #25537556 - 10/14/18 06:04 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

DC is full of liberals. White liberals. Black liberals. Asian liberals.


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    #25537635 - 10/14/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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DC is full of liberals. White liberals. Black liberals. Asian liberals.




It's full of people who vote for the Democratic Party, that's all.

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    #25537740 - 10/14/18 07:19 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

“Most liberals are secret closet conservatives who are afraid to come out and be rejected by their community, hit with bike locks and shot in an “urban” setting.”

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    #25537835 - 10/14/18 08:04 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I really like the part where you fucking pigs take little kids from their parents for shit like cannabis and hand them over to social services.

Every time a dumbass cop gets murdered, I uncontrollably blow loads all over the place.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25538785 - 10/15/18 08:46 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then?




As someone who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, I can tell you that going to Compton is one surefire way to increase ones odds of getting shot by a cop.  I once got pulled over on a test drive for a vehicle, thrown face down on the ground at gunpoint, handcuffed, then thrown in the back of a cruiser before they even asked for my ID.



Were your pants sagging? You can't honestly answer that, you probably don't know. It would be nice to see how all of you were presenting yourselves when you had these terrible encounters with police. Myself and everyone I know just about has never had these problems, even in the worst crime ridden parts of the US.

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    #25538803 - 10/15/18 08:55 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I really like the part where you fucking pigs take little kids from their parents for shit like cannabis and hand them over to social services.

Every time a dumbass cop gets murdered, I uncontrollably blow loads all over the place.



Why don't you blame the judges and lawmakers instead? You just come across as an angsty teenager and this isn't helping us get mushrooms legalized. Someone gets interested in it after hearing people want them legalized, so they google it and find this site. Reading your comments, they'll probably quickly decide it would be a terrible idea to legalize them given so many of the people on this site have your mentality or one similar to it.

Believe it or not, folks, most liberals and democrats aren't anti-police. They're the kind of people that want guns to be illegal for everyone except the police. They need the police more than conservatives do.

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    #25539014 - 10/15/18 10:14 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then?




As someone who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, I can tell you that going to Compton is one surefire way to increase ones odds of getting shot by a cop.  I once got pulled over on a test drive for a vehicle, thrown face down on the ground at gunpoint, handcuffed, then thrown in the back of a cruiser before they even asked for my ID.



Were your pants sagging? You can't honestly answer that, you probably don't know. It would be nice to see how all of you were presenting yourselves when you had these terrible encounters with police. Myself and everyone I know just about has never had these problems, even in the worst crime ridden parts of the US.



No, I was in shorts and a tee shirt. I was 35 at the time.  As soon as the cop saw my white,  blonde girlfriend in the back seat,  he apologized to her and let me go.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25539054 - 10/15/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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No, I was in shorts and a tee shirt. I was 35 at the time.  As soon as the cop saw my white,  blonde girlfriend in the back seat,  he apologized to her and let me go.



So you aren't white? I'm not sure it matters too much that your girlfriend was blond. I think you may have hallucinated that part about the cop apologizing because of your girlfriend being blond.

It's understandable, in a situation like that, if you're black for example and the cop is white, it's easy to draw conclusions like that. But if I did that, then I'd be racist too. I have been stopped in a similar manner. The problem is often the information being given to the beat cops by the dispatcher or whoever else in their chain of command.

I was stopped once for wearing a black t shirt and blue jeans and being near a convenience store. They had a call about a guy panhandling and I knew who it was, it was a gay mexican dude about a foot shorter than me who also happened to be wearing a black t shirt and blue jeans.

So I said to the cop "You got a call about a guy panhandling with a black t shirt and blue jeans, but I'm guessing he wasn't 6'5 and white"

The cop ignored that part and asked me if I'd ever been arrested. I said  "that's kind of a stupid question, I don't feel like answering it."

He said "Do you want to be arrested?"

I said "Well, you're too fat to catch me anyway so that isn't going to happen"

He tried to open his car door and I just bolted because I knew the area much better than him. He tried to chase after me with the car but there was a road block in his way, so he just shined his spotlight, but I was zigzagging.

Cops aren't trained to shoot you in the leg. If you run, they're basically trained to shoot you in the back. If you have any issue with that, you should take it to the people making the rules and training programs. Even if they don't really want to shoot you in the back, there isn't much other option.

So, it's not always "cops hate da black n brown pplz" because it works both ways. They can be dicks, they can do things they shouldn't do, but a lot of that is a problem with the higher ups in their chain of command and the shitty dispatchers giving them wrong information. The cop I ran from was a fat mexican dude, so maybe it was a racial thing when he targeted me, possibly knowing he was supposed to be looking for someone with a different complexion that was a foot shorter, but who knows.

Most of the time though, I haven't had any problems with the cops. They ask stupid questions, and they are trained to make it look like you're doing something wrong even when you clearly aren't. But for the most part, laws need to be changed, and their training needs to be reorganized. They also need better psychological evaluations. But again, in crime ridden areas and places where ex military are having a tough time finding a job, there aren't a lot of other people willing to do it.

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    #25539270 - 10/15/18 12:27 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

No, YOU made up the part about him apologizing because she was blonde.  I said he apologized to her when he saw her. 

Even you felt the need to run from a cop.  I've never run from a cop, but I've been pulled over and searched dozens of times.  I've had guns drawn on me at least a dozen times.

On top of that, I've had clients arrested for being black in starbucks.

Your love of cops is your choice.  That doesn't mean that this nation doesn't objectively have a problem with police oppression. I'm all for the right to carry a weapon, but police should not be allowed to carry while on duty.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25539392 - 10/15/18 01:14 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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No, YOU made up the part about him apologizing because she was blonde.  I said he apologized to her when he saw her.



You implied that's why he let you go and apologized. I'm guessing you're one of those people that just gets nervous around cops. Since this is a drug site you probably have your reasons. Now since you felt the need to point out your girlfriend was blond and white and implied that's why he let you go,... I'm guessing you're a hispanic jew that works at starbucks? If that is the case then I can understand your nervousness in a situation like that.

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police should not be allowed to carry while on duty.



Why don't you move to England? That's exactly how it is in much of England. Police and guns aren't the problem. It's the way police departments are managed. It's the information.

All this cop bashing, like I said, is the reason we can't legalize weed or mushrooms beyond some stupid overly commercialized state level.

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    #25539528 - 10/15/18 02:14 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

England has terrible free speech protection.  And you're wrong.  I'm a white atheist attorney.  I talk to cops all of the time.  I don't get nervous at all.


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    #25539564 - 10/15/18 02:26 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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    #25539669 - 10/15/18 03:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Geez I was sure you were a cop?
Now I see by your post you're just another redneck, rascist, Trumptard.
PS, you don't need to live in the country to be identified as having a red neck either.



What in the world gives you that idea? I don't like tobacco, I smoke weed, I don't vote, I don't wear flannel... maybe you just hate white people that believe in protecting constitutional rights. Oh wait, you're british. Nevermind. Rhetorical statement/insult, you hate guns/yourself. Gotcha.

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    #25539687 - 10/15/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Geez I was sure you were a cop?
Now I see by your post you're just another redneck, rascist, Trumptard.
PS, you don't need to live in the country to be identified as having a red neck either.




Why is he a "redneck, racist, Trumptard?" 

Because he suggested BOTH whites and blacks are on the receiving end of police abuse?

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    #25539933 - 10/15/18 04:55 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Blacks are disproportionately affected. This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times on this forum and that’s lowballing it.


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    #25540099 - 10/15/18 06:13 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Blacks are disproportionately affected. This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times on this forum and that’s lowballing it.



They also have a disproportionately higher rate of violent crime, even in countries where blacks were never enslaved.

That would equal more interactions with police, which would statistically equal higher rate of being "affected" in that sense. Not to mention, it's going to make cops more jumpy.

But I must be a racist(and redneck) because I pointed this out and a british/australian dude using a generic insult says so.

EDIT: someone is trying to oppress blacks, and it isn't necessarily the police. Certain police officers of course, but that not all cops are white. Any cop, regardless what race he is, can be racist, and do his job unfairly. But like I keep pointing out, regardless of how you think math and statistics are racist, it's not the fault of the police doing their jobs. Most of them aren't contributing to this sort of thing on purpose. It's the policy makers and management.

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    #25540212 - 10/15/18 07:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Blacks are disproportionately affected. This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times on this forum and that’s lowballing it.




Males are also disproportionately affected (more so than blacks), so are people in the 18-45 year age range. 

Those facts don't mean there's any sort of conspiracy taking place.

"This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times"

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    #25540228 - 10/15/18 07:05 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Do you actually believe this shit or is it just what your training manual tells you to say in response to institutionalized racism?


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    #25540242 - 10/15/18 07:10 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Is it institutional sexism and ageism too?

Or do more males commit more crimes?


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    #25540276 - 10/15/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you actually believe this shit or is it just what your training manual tells you to say in response to institutionalized racism?




You have stated in the past you're just as concerned about the institutional sexism facing males in the criminal justice system, have you had a change of heart on the issue?

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    #25540384 - 10/15/18 08:16 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you actually believe this shit or is it just what your training manual tells you to say in response to institutionalized racism?




You have stated in the past you're just as concerned about the institutional sexism facing males in the criminal justice system, have you had a change of heart on the issue?




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    #25540932 - 10/16/18 12:44 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Well I read his posts?
And his comments are clearly rascist, and democrat bashing, also, I forgot to add homophobic. Go back and read them yourself if it's such a concern.

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    #25541964 - 10/16/18 12:51 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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democrat bashing



The only part of your post that isn't a lie.

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    #25544087 - 10/17/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Tarrio and other people of color at the far-right rallies claim institutional racism no longer exists in America. In their view, blacks are to blame for any lingering inequality because they are dependent on welfare, lack strong leadership, and believe Democrats who tell them “You’re always going to be broke. You’re not going to make it in society because of institutional racism,” as one mixed-race man put it.





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If racism doesn’t exist, I ask Tarrio, how would he explain the disproportionate killing of young black men by police? “Hip-hop culture,” he says. It “glorifies that lifestyle… of selling drugs, shooting up.” Because of that, “Obviously you’re going to have higher crime rates. Obviously you’re going to have more police presence and more confrontations.”






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Sanchez says, “If black people are committing more murders, more robberies, more thefts, more violent crime, that’s why you would see more black men having encounters with the police.”

Also in Seattle, Franky Price, who said he is  “black and white,”wore a T-shirt reading, “It’s okay to be white.”






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They are among nearly a dozen black, Latino, and Asian participants at far-right rallies on the West Coast interviewed by The Daily Beast recently. They represent the new face of the far right that some scholars term “multiracial white supremacy.”




lol except not even the white ones are "supremacist"

Good points in the article, but it's leftist propaganda in the title.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-young-men-of-color-are-joining-white-supremacist-groups

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    #25544139 - 10/17/18 09:41 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

So a demographic that commits more crime increases the potential interactions with law enforcement, which potentially leads to more violent interactions relative to the general population?  That's too much basic commonsense there. :lol:

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    #25544177 - 10/17/18 09:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?


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    #25544204 - 10/17/18 10:03 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?



That's actually a decent question. Nobody can give you the 100% true answer to that, but an estimate may suffice.

A lot of people get a thrill from running from the cops. I've known a lot of people that did from every race. In Colorado for example, there is way less cops than there is in Texas. The crime rate is also significantly lower. If certain things aren't illegal and aren't policed, then there is no profit. The cops actually make the criminals money. Without laws and police, a lot of criminals would be losing their profits and thus wouldn't be committing as much crime. That's capitalism. One form of it anyway.


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    #25544315 - 10/17/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?




Police respond to violent acts from calls by the public, they don't find it more often with "increased policing". 

Does increased policing results in more traffic stops or drug arrests?  Yes.

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    #25544455 - 10/17/18 11:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

“There’s no way to avoid this” says nation with the highest incarceration rate in the world.


We have more people in prison today than the Soviets did at the height of the gulags. Land of the free though because uhhhh free enterprise.


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    #25612291 - 11/13/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I just came here to look for anything about this.  So many “good guy with a gun” posts over the years, I’m curious about what the proponents of that line of thought have to say about this killing.  AFAIK, the NRA hasn’t addressed it yet.

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    #25612699 - 11/13/18 06:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Wow....

Fucking deplorable.

No 2A gang member will comment on this most likely. This is fucking sad


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    #25612711 - 11/13/18 06:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Come on, we all know in practice that the second amendment is really for white people. The only gun problem these people see is black people with guns. I’ve never heard a single one of them argue that the black residents of Chicago have the right to their guns, even when they make the most extreme arguments for permissive gun laws for everyone else.


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    #25612750 - 11/13/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thats the 2A gang for ya. This is a fucking tragedy :sad:


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    #25613630 - 11/14/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.


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    #25613651 - 11/14/18 06:11 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Couldn't they see he was wearing a uniform?

Black people with guns is why CA has stricter gun laws than most states. They weren't fond of armed black panthers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25613677 - 11/14/18 06:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.


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    #25613791 - 11/14/18 08:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




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    #25613828 - 11/14/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




I thought they were talking about the 14th though.  Certainly the implications of the 14th amendment with regard to people of color would have been well understood in its time.


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    #25614015 - 11/14/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.



Sure and I don't dispute that, but using historical racism as an argument for how the laws of today should be interpreted makes little room for dodging claims of wishing to preserve institutional racism.


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    #25614057 - 11/14/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Sure and I don't dispute that, but using historical racism as an argument for how the laws of today should be interpreted makes little room for dodging claims of wishing to preserve institutional racism.




What institutional racism?


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    #25614062 - 11/14/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.


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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.




A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants.  That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship. 

I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.

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Innocent sovereign citizen harassed while traveling.



The same sovereign citizen being fatally harassed at gun point.



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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.




I know what institutional racism is,  I’m asking WHAT institutional racism?


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Innocent sovereign citizen harassed while traveling.



The same sovereign citizen being fatally harassed at gun point.






Sovereign citizens are almost as bad as the police. I’m not surprised that the black ones have worse outcomes.


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    #25614213 - 11/14/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

All she was doing was traveling.  That cardboard license plate of her’s was totally legit.


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    #25614286 - 11/14/18 12:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants.  That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship. 

I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.



Yes, but if that metric is one intended to favour only white people, than you have a racist immigration policy.

Would it be legal for a nation to do this? Sure, we all know international law is a joke. Would it be ethical? Most would consider discrimination based on race to no longer be ethical.





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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.




I know what institutional racism is,  I’m asking WHAT institutional racism?



Sorry, misread that.

I understand the argument to be that, since the laws were originally written with the intention that they specifically benefit white people, and since these laws are no longer being applied in this way, that these laws must be rewritten to once again reflect the original intention.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would this not be wishing to uphold institutional racism?


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    #25614528 - 11/14/18 02:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

The best is the 911 call where the cop od's on weed. Shit is hilarious.  Yea most cops suck. The way they get the same types of assholes is by pushing out the ones that won't fall in line with what the group does or says. Then they know in the future they will all back each other up no matter how wrong. Color is a none issue.  As a white felon I can tell you all they care about is fucking people over, makes the little guys feel big and tough


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A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants.  That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship. 

I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.



Yes, but if that metric is one intended to favour only white people, than you have a racist immigration policy.

Would it be legal for a nation to do this? Sure, we all know international law is a joke. Would it be ethical? Most would consider discrimination based on race to no longer be ethical.





The metric should be if the immigration or not benefits US citizens.

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Illegal immigrants benefit the US. They pick your food.


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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




I thought they were talking about the 14th though.  Certainly the implications of the 14th amendment with regard to people of color would have been well understood in its time.



The founding fathers were long dead before the 14th amendment was ratified


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    #25615333 - 11/14/18 09:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Innocent sovereign citizen harassed while traveling.



The same sovereign citizen being fatally harassed at gun point.





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Sovereign citizens and cops are the same type: they don’t believe the law applies to them. it’s always entertaining to watch them clash.


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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




I thought they were talking about the 14th though.  Certainly the implications of the 14th amendment with regard to people of color would have been well understood in its time.



The founding fathers were long dead before the 14th amendment was ratified



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    #25615760 - 11/15/18 06:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Can you quote the portion about anyone being dead?  I missed that part.


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I assumed you were smart enough to figure that part out seeing as how the 14th was ratified in 1868 and the founders were already older men 100 years prior...


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    #25616140 - 11/15/18 10:36 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Illegal immigrants benefit the US. They pick your food.




It's not for you to make the determination, it's for US citizens to make it. 

For all I know, you could be a person that profits off immigration and doesn't give two shits on how it affects the rest of the US population.

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Actually it’s not an opinion for the American people to make. It’s a fact.


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Actually it’s not an opinion for the American people to make. It’s a fact.




No, it's your opinion that illegals benefit the US population, many people obviously disagree. 

Either way, it should be up to US citizens to make that determination, not you.

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We did. We voted for democrats last week. That’s an endorsement of open borders. Tear down those  walls and make magaheads pay for it!


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I assumed you were smart enough to figure that part out seeing as how the 14th was ratified in 1868 and the founders were already older men 100 years prior...



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Initially, you posted:

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That's what I just said.




Now, you're saying:

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Was it implied or said?  I'm so confused.:thisfuckinguy:


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    #25618306 - 11/16/18 09:32 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

"the founding fathers never meant for women to vote"
"yeah, but the 19th amendment was certainly well understood in it's time"
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What we have here is a failure to communicate.


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What we have here is a failure to communicate.




so it would seem.  let's try this a different way.

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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




I thought they were talking about the 14th though.  Certainly the implications of the 14th amendment with regard to people of color would have been well understood in its time.



The founding fathers were long dead before the 14th amendment was ratified



Exactly.  That's why the founders' intent are irrelevant to a discussion of the 14th amendment.





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Yeah, it is.  Nonetheless, they are right about the founding fathers.


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Dude,  why must you take from them what little they have?


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Excellent. This thread has been coming along nicely.  I was meaning to post about about this cop but ive been kinda busy. Its kind of old but check out this fine fellow

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    #25726483 - 01/06/19 04:36 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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"Once they arrived, a deputy threatened to shoot one of the small dogs if it became too aggressive, and he did just that no more than 20 second later. "To see that little dog get shot for no reason, it wasn't a threat," said Canady."

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    #25726942 - 01/06/19 10:59 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, those are both great examples of what pieces of shit police officers are. My uncle is a cop. He's a piece of shit. Every thanksgiving he sits there bitching about welfare moms and poor people.


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    #25727729 - 01/06/19 05:58 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

If ya'all think cops are bad, try the military.  Most cops were in the military. 

I don't think cops ever did shit about anything I've ever reported.  But once, a dude hit me in jail and I didn't want that or more time fighting.  The dude was injured cause he's a tool that got raped in prison for being a bitch.

The whole system is about serving itself.  Social control.  Ideas of morality, not kindness.  Built upon eons of religious fiction.

I lived above a pizza shop, two actually.  Never thought shit about it.  Wasn't long till there were rumors of drug activity.  Flying in drugs to the local airport and cops being paid off.

It's all a game and it all has it's own rules.  Either you can mingle with their culture or best keep quiet.  These days you see cops with bastard kids and tatoos that look like drunken sailors ( some actually were drunk sailors).  They use all sorts of media to subdue those who fear them the most to 'liking' them.  Carefully scripted and censored news stories.

Cop visits sick kid in kids hosptial.  Aw how cute!  They'd treat that same kid like dirt less then serious situations where there are no cameras and media.


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    #25727791 - 01/06/19 06:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Just watched the video of the sheriff that shot the small dog.  I read on that sheriff departments webpage that the dog is ok.  The bullet entered behind the neck and exited under the eye.

They do some sick shit that's for sure.  Sad that there is so much rightful insecurity in the country that is supposed to be held to higher standards of liberty.

For too long it's been about the liberty of uncle sam and not the people.  This sort of thing happens a lot.  Cops get power trips easily.  Most of them likely are sociopaths.  Police work is one of the trades that sociopaths are attracted to.

Shooting a dog to make a point.  That's some weak shit right there.  People seeing things like that, doesn't help their sympathy propaganda when police get shot.  It's a brotherhood against the people.


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    #25727811 - 01/06/19 06:42 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

It's actually a really great thing, that videos of police misconduct are coming out.  It will get more people to see through their lie of credibility.

The less credible the abusive system of authority has, the better it is for truth to come out.  They convict a lot of people based on the assumed credibility of law enforcement.

They do ton's of shit to cover up what really goes on in police, departments, and their families.  Like I said, it's like the military.  As long as they are in good standing with judges and other officers, they can get away with anything.

It's appearing that in the next several decades, that will change.


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    #25727890 - 01/06/19 07:23 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Cops are scum, true.

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    #25727914 - 01/06/19 07:35 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That really pathetic part is both military and police use their hero identity to excuse their scumbag ways.  Even as pathetic is the public that supports their deplorable behaviour.


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    #25728996 - 01/07/19 12:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I fucking hate police. My brother is doing 7 years right now on some charges that I find to be utterly ridiculous. It was a fairly new law in Michigan, and they decided to make an example of him.

I guess I'm biased. As fuck. I hate cops.

Every time police have ever been involved in anything in my life, they've made the situation worse, without fail.


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    #25728999 - 01/07/19 12:45 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)



This video is very relevant to this thread. I wish every person in America would watch this video. It would save a lot of people a lot of trouble and heartache.


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    #25729452 - 01/07/19 04:00 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Good one, I only remembered the first half of that video. Seeing the cop spell out their method in the second half is worth understanding :thumbup:

That type of thinking can be used against the cops as well though  :super:
By sifting through the cops paperwork, the amount of mistakes/typo's they make, the differing accounts from different officers, etc, is something that shouldn't be easily overlooked.

Say someone was defending charges relating to 2 kilo of weed/speed.
Unless that person has $100 000 ready to waste on leg work, and examine the evidence properly, a defense attorney usually won't do shit and seem to prefer to cut deals with prosecutors instead.

People get the justice they can afford.

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    #25729504 - 01/07/19 04:21 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

If you don't speak to police they will assault and section 8 you.


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    #25729518 - 01/07/19 04:26 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I had a client who was arrested for not giving his name.  I got that client a $40k settlement for that.


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    #25729569 - 01/07/19 04:47 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Nice work :thumbup:

I was extremely lucky to have a friend with a law degree help me.

They say anyone who represents themselves has a fool for a client, however luck prevailed in my case and the fool had a win.
Walking out of court, free, seriously... talk about happiness... it was unparalleled

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    #25729573 - 01/07/19 04:49 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck the police, can’t god damn stand em.


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I had a client who was arrested for not giving his name.  I got that client a $40k settlement for that.




Like a boss! :rockon:

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People get the justice they can afford.




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    #25729857 - 01/07/19 06:31 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I had a client who was arrested for not giving his name.  I got that client a $40k settlement for that.



Got a link?

Just curious if it made the news

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Read up on it and in Ohio we don't have to ID our self unless driving.  BUT cops usually search for warrants.  Got a friend that was picked up cause he ID'd himself and he had a warrant.

Cops like to play head games a lot.  They ask a lot of questions and they don't train civilians in the 18 years we are minors in state schools.

Not answering questions is a big issue with most cops.  It's a good way to have the k9 show up.

It's also really easy for people to call the cops on someone.  I've been pulled over walking after someone else was shooting out windows with a BB gun.  I had a poster and they thought it might have a bb gun in it.  That was one of the easier times.

I did get pulled over once cause who I was driving.  Pulled into a gas station and they saw who was in the car.  So we left and they pulled us over.  They searched the car and said they pulled us over for a light out.  I asked which light was out and if I could put the keys in the ignition to test the light. 

OF COURSE the light worked just fine.  They lie and do whatever they can because they have low morals and cheat.


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I had a client who was arrested for not giving his name.  I got that client a $40k settlement for that.



Got a link?

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Officers kill man with no active warrants at wrong house.

"Man with no active warrants" is code for 'innocent man'.


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    #25742898 - 01/14/19 02:27 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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The former US police officer who allegedly shot Australian yoga instructor and life coach Justine Damond Ruszczyk dead in 2017 says he will use a 'defence of others' strategy at his trial later this year.
Ms Ruszczyk Damond had earlier called police after hearing a woman's screams near her Minneapolis home.

She was unarmed and dressed in her pyjamas when she walked out to meet the officers.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6586075/Former-cop-charged-murder-Australian-woman-argue-shot-self-defence.html

This is a tragic story.
Is the cop taking responsibility for his actions? or attempted to ease some of the families pain with the truth?
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    #25743415 - 01/14/19 10:56 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Holy shit that's sad. We need police reform.


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    #25744859 - 01/15/19 03:05 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

7 years is a long stretch BigBadWoof, I hope your brother can keep it together.
Sending you and your bro good vibes :thumbup:

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    #25745099 - 01/15/19 08:15 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Read up on it and in Ohio we don't have to ID our self unless driving.  BUT cops usually search for warrants.  Got a friend that was picked up cause he ID'd himself and he had a warrant.

Cops like to play head games a lot.  They ask a lot of questions and they don't train civilians in the 18 years we are minors in state schools.

Not answering questions is a big issue with most cops.  It's a good way to have the k9 show up.

It's also really easy for people to call the cops on someone.  I've been pulled over walking after someone else was shooting out windows with a BB gun.  I had a poster and they thought it might have a bb gun in it.  That was one of the easier times.

I did get pulled over once cause who I was driving.  Pulled into a gas station and they saw who was in the car.  So we left and they pulled us over.  They searched the car and said they pulled us over for a light out.  I asked which light was out and if I could put the keys in the ignition to test the light. 

OF COURSE the light worked just fine.  They lie and do whatever they can because they have low morals and cheat.




I remember walking my dogs late like midnight after work one night,  3 big dogs and my roommate, in a residential neighborhood and a cruiser drives up and started asking us questions.

After the 3rd question I asked what exactly it was about... the officer then says there was a report of breaking and entering...

I looked at him and said do people usually bring their 3 dogs and their collected poop in a bag along when breaking and entering then casually walk around the area that they also live blocks away from?

Good times,  good detective work.


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    #25745563 - 01/15/19 01:32 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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7 years is a long stretch BigBadWoof, I hope your brother can keep it together.
Sending you and your bro good vibes :thumbup:




I appreciate it man. It's been pretty rough. I don't know why, but I just never expected him to do the better part of a decade in prison.


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I remember walking my dogs late like midnight after work one night,  3 big dogs and my roommate, in a residential neighborhood and a cruiser drives up and started asking us questions.

After the 3rd question I asked what exactly it was about... the officer then says there was a report of breaking and entering...

I looked at him and said do people usually bring their 3 dogs and their collected poop in a bag along when breaking and entering then casually walk around the area that they also live blocks away from?

Good times,  good detective work.




They stopped my brother several times in the span of a couple of weeks, just walking down the street. Each time they said that there had been break-ins/burglaries. That's just a standard thing cops say when they are harassing people. There hadn't been any break-ins or burglaries in that area.


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    #25746225 - 01/15/19 07:01 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Going to jail for 30-45 days.

Was charged with DUI, after pulled for driving on a suspended. Wasn’t drunk, had no drugs in the vehicle, was half baked at best, had a couple tokes after work and it was at least an hour before I got in the car.

Wasn’t my driving that got me pulled, it was simply picked out for driving an older beat up vehicle.

Anyway after searching the car, finding nothing, ran me through a sobriety test, which I made no mistakes, blew .000.

Asked me if I smoke marijuana, I said yes, then he said he was going bring me to hospital for blood test because he suspected  “I was too impaired to drive” if I didn’t consent he was going to get a warrant.

Didn’t consent, took him like 10 minutes to get the warrant couldn’t believe it.

Brought to jail after I got out the hospital. Sat like 30 days, got out was sentenced to 60 days, 12 months probation, and $1400 in court fines.

All that was in my system was THC, the DUI was dropped to Intoxicated driving in a plea I took after I got out.

In a now recreational state, Michigan.

Probation isn’t working for me because how much of pain in the ass it is to hike my ass across the city first thing in the morning to pay $20 to drop my drawers in front of grown men for drug testing.


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    #25746280 - 01/15/19 07:29 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Wow man, that's fucked. My brother's in prison in Michigan. He's up in the UP. It gets like -30*F up there in the winter time.

You really shouldn't have said that you smoked cannabis. Had you not, you would have been fine. I would seriously recommend you watch the video in my signature, and show it to your friends and family. It's quite entertaining, and it illustrates very clearly how people should handle interactions with police officers.


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The yoop is all I know, never really ventured far, prefer the backwoods.


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    #25761429 - 01/22/19 05:31 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Just posting for the lols

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/cop-cutout-stolen-days-after-being-installed-2019

Just days after being assigned to local school zones with the safety of young students in mind, a life-size cutout of a Kelowna RCMP officer cut-out has been “unlawfully removed” from his position outside an elementary school.


Police said that late last week, they were alerted to the disappearance of one of the cut-outs from a position outside AS Matheson Elementary school.

Now they’re urging the public to contact the police if they spot one of the Mountie cut-outs away from school-owned property. :rofl:

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    #25761472 - 01/22/19 05:47 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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The yoop is all I know, never really ventured far, prefer the backwoods.




I had a yooper ask me what it was like to work in an auto factory once. He was in a college class with me. He had no interest whatsoever, after I told him of my experiences lol. They're a different breed of Michigander, for sure.


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    #25761612 - 01/22/19 06:48 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Didn't know there were so many MI people on here.  I was born and raised but only have been back once since high school. Still keep up with some old buddies and it seems like nothing has really changed. 

Used to barter firewood,  berries, fish/pheasant/deer growing up.

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    #25761689 - 01/22/19 07:21 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

To live and let live is a good policy.

I'm so deep in the states brainwashing attempts it's not funny.  Half stubborn, possibly for illusion, possibly from truth, half wise.  To go deeper it's the mental health, better than court, to have some ability to not be totally lost in dark negative, sometimes terrifying reality.

I got myself in this mess.  No courage yet and not wanting to be haste in getting out.  Lost years with no socially approved voice.  Society has a lot of power in dissaproval.

The police and police that was my family failed me and I failed them.  I just didn't know the world.  So somewhere there is lingering karma.  In my dreams there is a cloud of truth and fiction. (Unprocessed trauma from being sxually assaulted very young)

One thing I do know is in our moments, we can feel trouble.  Cops aren't hired under live and let live policy.  Our Government is not mature.  Has a lot of power, but not wise as much as afraid.  So being the better person, we can make things less complicated.  They generally do live and let live but a lot of these police very much like to prove themselves.  All you can do to prove youself, if against the law, is drop ego.  Not one person is in court, from having a dropped ego.

Drugs have complicated society.  Far too late to get ride of drugs.  The drugs were always there, a part of our early societies.  What we think of them has changed.

So use drugs if you are going to, with mindful awareness.  I forgot long ago simple immature people are afraid of complications outside their definitions of understanding.  It's hard to commincate ego loss when they obviously boost well being.  Well being and ego are much more complicated the tripper knows that.  There is no ego in true bliss.  There is only bliss.  But to have that tool without a drug, is religion.  That is why I meditate


I used to email and harrass the local dea.  I was very confused by well respected armed group of our Government having a covert drug policy that appeared quite pleasing (to a user who is aware of benefits).  But I was very immature myself.  Not knowing much of the complicated world and how to be simple me without much of that world creeping in.  Religious about the drugs possibilities.

I suppose the Governments brainwashing efforts removed much of my resistence and forced me to develope other tools than using a illicit drug.  Even if drugs were legal, they have me in a strict catagory.  So part public property and part defining my own liberty.  Americans have a tramendous way to go to define their liberty.  We know the risks better as we get experience.

All I suggest is not risking it all in hope.  Don't throw it all away on risk.  The internet empowered a lot of young minds, for legal and illegal.  Temptations.  Grey legal zones!  Some strait black legal zones.  Even if it is right.

Not really having a point to make.  I guess a lot of us want our freedom.  And have a hard time communicating the respect we have.  We get angry at what we respect and fear.  Fear and respect have a lot in common.  But it clouds judgment.

So it's a political standstill.  Not trully order.  A lot of people getting sick over the reality.


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    #25765788 - 01/24/19 04:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)



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    #25765850 - 01/24/19 05:25 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:laugh2:  oh man the school bus, that's funny

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    #25766474 - 01/24/19 10:17 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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    #25766612 - 01/25/19 12:37 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Ah. fooled again! Had me laughing hard though :thumbup:

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Pretty good movie. :cool:  :thumbup:


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    #25766822 - 01/25/19 05:41 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

My thing right now is appreciating police cam videos that depict cops pulling over other cops. Some of the videos reveal the "professional courtesy" one pig offers another, like this video that shows a cop being unarrested for dui once the arresting officer finds his id:




Videos that so painfully make it clear that the kiddie gloves come on when cop pulls over cops. This is another reason why police oppose body cams:




But the cams are rolling out, and the cops are starting to learn that the 'good ol days' just might be ending. It's amusing to see their confusion when they realize they aren't being let off with a handshake:




In the words of the sheriff on scene: "The cat’s out of the bag. You know, it’s not like the old days. I know you were hoping this would turn out differently, but there’s nothing I can do.”




Lastly, appreciate this cop breaking down into blubbering once he realizes that he's going to be treated like the general public:



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That was from the closing credits of the comedy "Super Troopers"




Is is a real clip? It seemed fake to me lol.


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    #25767464 - 01/25/19 11:06 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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My thing right now is appreciating police cam videos that depict cops pulling over other cops. Some of the videos reveal the "professional courtesy" one pig offers another, like this video that shows a cop being unarrested for dui once the arresting officer finds his id:





My uncle is a cop, and my aunt gets let off whenever she gets stopped. She just tells the police who her husband is. It's pretty fucked up.


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    #25767472 - 01/25/19 11:09 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Is is a real clip? It seemed fake to me lol.



No.  The cop is one of the actors in the movie.


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    #25767574 - 01/25/19 11:50 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?


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    #25767805 - 01/25/19 01:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Is is a real clip? It seemed fake to me lol.




:smile:  I could imagine the kids here ganging up on one cop lol second time viewing yeah it looks too unlikely.

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    #25768070 - 01/25/19 03:34 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?



Why do you feel sympathy for drunk drivers who selfishly put other lives at risk?

My brothers a cop and I still love him, so despite my firm commitment to the truth of 'all cops are bastards' I am able to recognize that behind the uniform is still a human and I don't wish disproportionate violence on any of them.

That being said, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. I especially have no sympathy for drunk driving cops who have almost certainly arrested other people for this exact crime before and are only upset because they were wrong to consider themselves above the law.

Punitive justice is not ideal. I think a reformative system is the direction we should move in. I'm still not going to shed any tears for a cop being force fed their own medicine.


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Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?



Why do you feel sympathy for drunk drivers who selfishly put other lives at risk?

My brothers a cop and I still love him, so despite my firm commitment to the truth of 'all cops are bastards' I am able to recognize that behind the uniform is still a human and I don't wish disproportionate violence on any of them.

That being said, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. I especially have no sympathy for drunk driving cops who have almost certainly arrested other people for this exact crime before and are only upset because they were wrong to consider themselves above the law.

Punitive justice is not ideal. I think a reformative system is the direction we should move in. I'm still not going to shed any tears for a cop being force fed their own medicine.




I have sympathy for anyone who finds themselves having gone too far down the wrong path. I've been there many times myself, and I can't help but feel empathy. I understand perfectly well that that empathy isn't always rational. People who get super-drunk, particularly by themselves, have some serious personal issues, in my opinion, and you can bet that their lives are already spiraling out of control in many ways. I hate to watch that happen, no matter who it is happening to.

With that said, I do loathe police, and I'm glad to see that body cams are making them accountable.


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Fair enough. I can relate to that. Especially the last video, buddy was definitely not in a good space.


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The third one was the worst. That guy was completely indignant, and deserved what he had coming to him. The second to last, I kinda felt bad for that guy. He knew he fucked up, and he felt bad about it. In my mind, he clearly has a problem. He blew like a 0.250... That's pretty fuckin drunk.


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Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?



Why do you feel sympathy for drunk drivers who selfishly put other lives at risk?

My brothers a cop and I still love him, so despite my firm commitment to the truth of 'all cops are bastards' I am able to recognize that behind the uniform is still a human and I don't wish disproportionate violence on any of them.

That being said, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. I especially have no sympathy for drunk driving cops who have almost certainly arrested other people for this exact crime before and are only upset because they were wrong to consider themselves above the law.

Punitive justice is not ideal. I think a reformative system is the direction we should move in. I'm still not going to shed any tears for a cop being force fed their own medicine.




So your brother is a cop, very interesting.

If I can ask, do you have a decent relationship with him?

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If I can ask, do you have a decent relationship with him?




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So your brother is a cop, very interesting.

If I can ask, do you have a decent relationship with him?




He said he loves him.




I understand that fact, many times we love our family members but don't have decent relationships with them. I think he can answer for himself, if he so chooses to do so.

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    #25769496 - 01/26/19 07:00 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I spend most of my time travelling around and usually have an ocean or several provinces separating us, plus I'm a fairly reclusive individual, so I'm not really involved with the daily life of any of my family.

But, I'll see them maybe once or twice a year, and there's no bad blood - despite the fact that I make no attempt to hide my opinion of police from them - and beyond his career choice, I vibe pretty well with my brother so I would describe it as a descent relationship.

I definitely wish he had got work as a firefighter, as was his original hope, because then I could actually respect the work he does.

And I don't know what he would do if we ever found ourselves on opposing sides of a revolt.

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I spend most of my time travelling around and usually have an ocean or several provinces separating us, plus I'm a fairly reclusive individual, so I'm not really involved with the daily life of any of my family.

But, I'll see them maybe once or twice a year, and there's no bad blood - despite the fact that I make no attempt to hide my opinion of police from them - and beyond his career choice, I vibe pretty well with my brother so I would describe it as a descent relationship.

I definitely wish he had got work as a firefighter, as was his original hope, because then I could actually respect the work he does.

And I don't know what he would do if we ever found ourselves on opposing sides of a revolt.





Thanks for the honest response. :thumbup:  Glad too hear you are on good terms with each other.

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    #25770294 - 01/26/19 03:06 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

This smells like a bullshit story to me.

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A St. Louis police officer has been charged with involuntary manslaughter after the authorities said he fatally shot another officer during a game of Russian roulette.

Officer Hendren had been on duty when he met Officer Alix, who was off duty, at his home on Thursday and the two began playing with guns, according to a statement of probable cause.

Officer Hendren produced a revolver, emptied the cylinder and put one round back in, the statement said. He then spun the cylinder, pointed it away and pulled the trigger. The gun did not fire, the authorities said.

Officer Alix took the gun, pointed it at Officer Hendren and compressed the trigger. The gun still did not fire, the statement said.

Officer Hendren then took the gun back, pointed it at her and pulled the trigger. This time, the gun went off. Officer Alix was fatally shot in the chest, the authorities said.

Officer Hendren’s partner, who was also there and who was not identified, told the authorities that he had felt uncomfortable that the others were playing with guns and started to leave before he heard a gunshot, the statement said.




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    #25772383 - 01/27/19 02:16 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Cops on MDMA.

They can already be on SSRI's.  Host of other drugs.

I think the real issue aside from grumpy aggressive cops and/or 'criminals' is what we allow to influence our fabricating society.

If cops were doing drugs, they too would avoid authorities.  They can just give and get a little professional courtesy.  Yet the pressure is on them and always has been.

I think societies expectations of law and enforcement is a little unrealistic.  Even a lot of criminally inclined play the call a cop game.


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Officer Hendren’s partner, who was also there and who was not identified, told the authorities that he had felt uncomfortable that the others were playing with guns and started to leave before he heard a gunshot, the statement said.




Particularly this line here.

Sounds like murder, and it sounds like his partner didn't want anything to do with it, though I'm sure he knows what happened. The fact that they were playing Russian roulette doesn't make it less murder. Aren't you supposed to put the gun to your own head during Russian roulette anyway?


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    #25773655 - 01/28/19 12:04 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Above the law?

Professional courtesy says give grace.  So perhaps transcendtal meditation in prison can teach judgment.

Being judged makes judgment difficult.  Prison is a lot of being judged.  The shame one carries of failure, loss, being misguided.

Military and cops mess up a lot, a ton.  But they also have fear of real let downs.  Real fails.


We all know orders stink.  As much to give orders as carry out.  Desire is like an order.  There is an order to things and we don't see everything.

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Wait, wut?
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Joe Gamaldi, the union president, gave an impassioned statement after the incident, saying “enough is enough.” Two suspects also were killed in the incident.

“Now I want to speak on behalf of the 5,200 brave men and women who work in the Houston Police Department and the other 800,000 police officers who are working these streets every single day, are putting their lives on the line,” Gamaldi said. “We are sick and tired of having targets on our back. We are sick and tired of having dirtbags trying to take our lives when all we’re trying to do is protect this community and protect our families. Enough is enough.”

He also had a message for those calling police officers the “enemy.”

“And for the ones who are out there spreading the rhetoric that police officers are the enemy, well just know we’ve all got your number now and we’re going to be keeping track of all y’all and we’re going to be making sure we’re going to be holding you accountable every time you stir the pot on our police officers,” he said.





I'm sorry, but what does a narcotics raid gone bad have to do with anti-police sentiment?  And did this guy just admit to some vast cointelpro-style operation to go after folks that who criticize the cops?  Is he talking about something official, or some sort of vigilante action?


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    #25777618 - 01/29/19 07:29 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm sorry, but what does a narcotics raid gone bad have to do with anti-police sentiment?  And did this guy just admit to some vast cointelpro-style operation to go after folks that who criticize the cops?  Is he talking about something official, or some sort of vigilante action?




That's a good question. It sounds like and idle threat, but who knows these days. Maybe they do have access to personal phone data.


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    #25777779 - 01/29/19 08:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

They have overwhelming evidence that can provoke fear in anyones heart by mere suggestion.

I do a lot to avoid prison and death but sonetimes I get mad.  Mescaline made it pretty seeing self projection.  But it got complicated.

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    #25789308 - 02/03/19 09:35 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

U guys are gunna love this, an undercover cop drug deal turf war. Police attacking police. Doesnt get more ridiculous!

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/detroit-police-officers-fight-each-other-in-undercover-op-gone-wrong

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    #25789476 - 02/03/19 11:36 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

That's hilarious! lol

Sounds like some shit out of a movie.


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    #25789726 - 02/04/19 05:47 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

The cops been over at my house cause I drank.  I think we all just want everyone to live good lives.  It's hard though because the power of death is very scary and a scared mind doesn't think well.

Ohio just lost a deputy.  So that's real sad.  Cops party too, they are just real smart.  Just like the military parties, they are smart.  The mind does stupid shit like try to figure out what death is and what the  afterlife may be.

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    #25790112 - 02/04/19 10:22 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Ouuu!

I hope the comic side of Hollywood makes a movie about it :yesnod:

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    #25794846 - 02/06/19 10:53 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

No charges for the cop who murdered a “good guy with a gun.” Where’s the NRA? Why aren’t they outraged that a man with a concealed weapons permit who drew his gun during a mall shooting was shot 3 times in the back by the police?


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State Attorney General Steve Marshall announced Tuesday that his investigation found the officer did not break the law and will not be charged in the death of Emantic “E.J.” Bradford Jr.

Bradford's shooting at the Riverchase Galleria in Hoover happened in the immediate aftermath of gunfire at the mall, to which the officer — who has not been identified — was responding.

The attorney general's report says the officer mistakenly believed Bradford had fired the earlier shots and was justified in shooting him. The officer saw Bradford running toward the shooting scene with a gun and believed he was trying to kill the shooting victim, according to the report.




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    #25795034 - 02/06/19 12:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

That was an unfortunate incident.  I normally would jump all over the cops on something like this, but it seems like it was just one of those rare times when there was a cop around when you need one.  Enlil would probably say that this is an example of why cops shouldn't be armed while on duty.


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    #25795070 - 02/06/19 12:41 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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That was an unfortunate incident.  I normally would jump all over the cops on something like this, but it seems like it was just one of those rare times when there was a cop around when you need one.  Enlil would probably say that this is an example of why cops shouldn't be armed while on duty.




I think at this point, if you took away police officer's guns, a lot of boys in blue would be soaked in red.


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    #25804382 - 02/10/19 07:33 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

https://vancouversun.com/news/world/indonesia-police-admit-using-snake-to-terrorize-papuan-man/wcm/c995ad5a-09c8-4f02-aa0e-2fcfd26e2405

Wow, maybe i was just being naive when i thought that cops wouldn't utilize animals or reptiles for interrogation techniques :lol:

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    #25826895 - 02/21/19 06:52 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Blue lives!!!!

Where is that police appreciation thread when we need it?

Thank you officers for forcing CNN to face reality!

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    #25827236 - 02/21/19 09:19 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Tear down the true democrat racists and supporters of the government controlled America.

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    #25827384 - 02/21/19 10:12 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

You have the right to be as sober as you can.  Anything stupid you say will burn your ass in hells fire.

I'm trying to get right with cops but sometimes I have unworthy moments.  I'm just not a worthy person cause I do see so much suffering in the world.  Cops don't enjoy watching people suffer either.  They can be tuff on criminals.  It happens.

It seems to be a liberal agenda to be weak on crime.  Everyone's got a heart, it's all about how we feel about ourself at a given moment.  So choose moments WISELY.  Sadly that happens with age and we are not born knowing much of anything at all.


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    #25827435 - 02/21/19 10:30 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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What rights are Dems after?  The right to healthcare?  Affordable college?  Social Security? :shrug:


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    #25828487 - 02/21/19 06:22 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Dems are after our rights.



What rights are Dems after?  The right to healthcare?  Affordable college?  Social Security? :shrug:



Maybe guns and free speech

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    #25828489 - 02/21/19 06:23 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Blue lives!!!!

Where is that police appreciation thread when we need it?

Thank you officers for forcing CNN to face reality!

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Jussie Smollett arrested and faces a felony charge for allegedly filing false police report

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/21/entertainment/jussie-smollett-thursday/index.html







They indeed did great detective work and deserve a round of applause :congrats:

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    #25829335 - 02/22/19 06:24 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I had a wicked dream lastnight.  I was flying through walls and it somehow became a police station I was flying away from.  It was really goofy.  I remember a black girl in there and I thought she was cute.  Then I got really spooked and at some point got tired of flying away.  I remember thinking about an ex-girlfriend and how she moved away for pot.  I don't think I could be stupid enough to move away for pot after this dream.

I think if I won the lotto I'd consider living in Montana.  I would have no idea where to live though.  I've only been there a little while.


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    #25829932 - 02/22/19 12:05 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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    #25833860 - 02/24/19 02:50 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Since you named this the Police Appreciation Thread, I guess this goes here:




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    #25833894 - 02/24/19 03:20 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

i lol'd.  then i looked into it more and i don't think this dude is being ironic.  he really loves cops maybe.


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    #25833903 - 02/24/19 03:27 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

He calls himself Pol1z1stens0hn - Son Of A Cop so he might just be. He's serious.

As I saw in the comments:


Pol1z1stens0hn: "The cops shot 7 people this year."

American cops: "Hold my beer"

American schoolkids: "hold my mountain dew."



I guess being a bootlicker comes easier in a country where the cops only kill like 7 people a year and they are put off by their misdeeds during the war from becoming too gung ho. Its become very uncool on all levels of German government and law to grandstand, because of the past.


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    #25833909 - 02/24/19 03:31 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i thought the 7 people lyric was chuckle-worthy from an american perspective as well.  the whole concept of a bat wielding gang of hoodlums at the beginning was pretty hokey too.  like something from a michael jackson music video or The Warriors or some such.  Very dated.


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    #25833914 - 02/24/19 03:34 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Not dated, its still the reality in Europe. Thugs typically dont have firearms here but bats, chains, screwdrivers and the like.

A good knife is a serious defense weapon here because you are unlikely to stare into the barrel of a gun. Criminals with guns here generally have hard drug involvement.




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    #25833919 - 02/24/19 03:37 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Lol what a strange clip, I'm still scratching my head.

Imagine wearing that Cop Life jacket? Funny shit

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    #25833920 - 02/24/19 03:38 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Officer Hendren’s partner, who was also there and who was not identified, told the authorities that he had felt uncomfortable that the others were playing with guns and started to leave before he heard a gunshot, the statement said.




Particularly this line here.

Sounds like murder, and it sounds like his partner didn't want anything to do with it, though I'm sure he knows what happened. The fact that they were playing Russian roulette doesn't make it less murder. Aren't you supposed to put the gun to your own head during Russian roulette anyway?




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    #25833925 - 02/24/19 03:42 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Blue lives!!!!

Where is that police appreciation thread when we need it?

Thank you officers for forcing CNN to face reality!

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Jussie Smollett arrested and faces a felony charge for allegedly filing false police report

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/21/entertainment/jussie-smollett-thursday/index.html








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    #25833949 - 02/24/19 04:29 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

There's a Royal Commission into the Management of Police Informants happening in Victoria at present.

The main story, Lawyer X, or Informer 3838 as she was known to police, a high profile barrister was recruited by Victorian police to rat on her clients.

These aren't drink drivers, these are the top of the tree underworld figures.

Victoria's Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) wrote to more than 20 of Lawyer X's former clients, to let them know their convictions were potentially tainted by the legal scandal.

Court documents made public in December revealed Informer 3838 claimed to have helped police in as many as 386 cases during her time as an informer.

The High Court said Victoria Police's actions in using the informer were "reprehensible" and the lawyer had committed "fundamental and appalling breaches" of her obligations and the arrangement had debased fundamental premises of the criminal justice system".

February 21st a landmark ruling by the Court of Appeal resulted in the
Herald Sun winning the legal battle to reveal the identity of the female barrister known as Lawyer X.

As of March 1, media outlets will be able to publish the name and images of the woman who gave detectives information on her high-profile clients who were part of Melbourne’s gangland war.

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Jesus a lawyer was informing on her clients? That’s unbelievable. In the US, all that evidence she provided and anything that resulted from it would be thrown out.


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    #25834375 - 02/24/19 10:18 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Be white by 6 AM

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The first time Hartley Gosline spotted a Mountie, he immediately knew he wanted to be one.

In 1959, his mother took him to see Queen Elizabeth who was visiting the veteran’s hospital just up the street from their home in Saint John, N.B., during her Canadian tour.

Gosline, almost 10, watched as the Mounties in red serge escorted the Queen.

His was not, on the face of it, an unreasonable career ambition; men become Mounties all the time.

But at that moment, the force had yet to welcome a black member.

There had been attempts over the years: Leslie Bryan and Alfred Coward put their names in for consideration in 1941 and were found eligible on paper. However, they never became Mounties.

While the RCMP did not provide confirmation to Global News that the pair applied, Mountie correspondence discussing how to handle their application was published in Sgt. Craig Smith’s book on the history of black people in the RCMP.

RCMP Commissioner S.T. Wood wanted the black men to “be afforded the opportunity of writing the educational test with hope that we shall find that they have not successfully passed as to definitely refuse them the opportunity of applying on account of their colour would raise the question of policy,” according to a letter written by the officer in charge of Nova Scotia.

When Gosline applied in 1968, he either was not subjected to or aware of such hoops. He officially became a Mountie in 1969. Perhaps, he says, he was helped by the fact that the president of the local legion endorsed him.

The man was friends with Gosline’s mother — a widowed white woman — and well-respected in the predominantly white community where Gosline was raised.

“It was almost as if I didn’t realize that I was black in that neighbourhood,” Gosline says.

During training in Regina, Gosline heard rumours about some black members before him who’d been kicked out, but that was it. Training was a doozy, he says. “They tried to break you.”

Once, a corporal chastised Gosline for sticking out.

“You had better be white by 6 a.m.,” he told Gosline, a line that would later be used as the title of a book on the African-Canadian RCMP experience.

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Sgt. Craig Smith wrote You Had Better Be White By Six A.M. because he says there wasn’t a single black person on the walls of the force’s training depot in Regina when he joined in 1997.

Smith was surprised at this, given that the preceding decade had seen incredible movement nationwide towards diversifying police organizations. Surely, he thought, they would put up the images of people of colour who had excelled through the RCMP ranks in a bid to encourage others to follow suit. The RCMP did not respond to a request about the images on the wall.

The book — which often causes people’s mouths to gape when Smith says he wrote and published it while still employed by the force — explores the black Mountie experience.

It isn’t a story that’s front and centre in the annals of Canada’s national police force. The RCMP’s official first black Mountie is Gosline. And yet in recent years, Smith unearthed a 1967 graduation photo that shows another before him. That man, who neither Smith nor Global News could find, is David Harding. From what Smith can tell, Harding lasted less than two years in the force. He was gone by the time Gosline arrived in Regina for training. A spokesperson for the RCMP did not respond to questions about Harding and said Gosline is “the first reported black member.”

That was 50 years ago.

The Mounties that welcomed him into the RCMP “didn’t see colour,” he says. This was about policing and “the attitude when I grew up was, the policeman is your friend.”

As a teenager, Gosline hadn’t thought much of race. In fact, it wasn’t until the early 1970s, when someone called the cops to report a boy, maybe eight or nine, wandering home, kicking and hitting at the mailboxes as he went, that Gosline started to realize the momentousness of his acceptance to the RCMP.

A rookie cop barely in his 20s, Gosline turned his patrol car in the direction of North Preston, a predominantly black community in Halifax. Gosline parked in front of the boy’s home and knocked on the door.

The boy’s mother answered. She brought her son to the door, told him to tell the Mountie the truth, and after he admitted to bending a mailbox, Gosline let him off with a warning.

When he got back to the car, Gosline says 20-some black community members surrounded it. An old man, eyes milky with age, reached for him. The man was crying as he hugged Gosline.

“I never thought I’d live to see the day,” he recalls the man saying.

It likely would have been a surprise for the community to see Gosline in uniform, says Isaac Saney, who teaches black history at Dalhousie University.

In one case, after denying residents in Africville — a black community on the outskirts of Halifax — basic amenities, the City of Halifax voted in 1964 to forcibly relocate them and raze their homes. It would take until 2010 for a settlement to be reached and a public apology made. Even now, Saney says, black people in Nova Scotia face racial profiling and are disproportionately stopped by police.

In the early 1970s, however, Saney says, with police very much “enforcing inequities” and becoming “a symbol of black oppression,” to see a black man in uniform would have been startling. Indeed, it was the first time Gosline remembers recognizing that there is a divide between white people and black people in Canada. Still, during his nine years in the RCMP, Gosline didn’t dwell much on the ways in which that divide impacted his job.

Gosline, who long since left the force and now lives in Edmonton, is rethinking what it meant to be a black man in red serge, to be a black man in an institution routinely tied to systemic racism.

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It didn’t matter that he said no, Gosline says, his RCMP bosses kept coming back and asking him to work in the drug squad.

“There was no such thing as a black Mountie,” he says, “so they figured it would be great for me to be in the drug squad… undercover.”

Gosline remembers his refusals turning into a negative note in his file, something to the effect of him wanting special treatment because of his colour when really he had no desire to work in the drug squad just because he was black. The RCMP did not respond to questions about this incident.

Gosline, who later ended up working for a few years in plainclothes as a member of the RCMP’s now-defunct Security Service, quit in 1979. His last year of work was in Edmonton in an all-white detachment where he says he caught two of his colleagues calling him the N-word (they got more discreet after that) and he got written up for wearing an older issue RCMP coat to a hockey game even though his white colleagues did the same without issue.

Tired of the animosity and feeling like he was being singled out for being black, Gosline left. The RCMP did not answer questions about Gosline’s concerns about racism that preceded his departure.

When Andrea Elaine Lawrence’s family travelled from Toronto to Regina for her graduation in 1987, they had no idea she was making history. What they did know is that Lawrence, the stubborn youngest daughter of a former police officer in Jamaica, had achieved her dream job.

“She loved it,” says Lawrence’s sister Charmaine.

Lawrence was this funny, generous, and gregarious person. Her laugh turned heads and made mouths curve unwittingly into smiles. Watching her put on the uniform was this incredible transformation, Charmaine recalls.

“Her voice changed, her stature changed,” she says. “She just changed into not my sister Andrea but Andrea, the RCMP officer.”

“Andrea, the RCMP officer” still had a wicked sense of humour, her older brother Bill says. Lawrence worked in Burnaby for a while, near where Bill worked. Once, he remembers being pulled over by the cops while driving home. Sirens flashing, Bill nervously pulled together his driver’s licence and registration only to realize it was Lawrence, heckling him.

“Payback,” he chuckles, for cutting her braids off with scissors as a little kid.

Lawrence’s problems in the force started when she joined the Musical Ride in 1991, Bill remembers.

She’d been a Mountie for four years by then. She wanted to join the ride, he says, because it “was the epitome of what the RCMP represented…. a huge iconic symbol of Canada.”

In winter 1992, Lawrence was sent for training in Ottawa. It was an icy day, Bill remembers her telling him, and the horses were skittish. The horse Lawrence was riding lost its footing and reared, sending Lawrence flying. She landed on her tailbone. It led to “a whole onset of problems with internal injuries,” Bill says, ending with a medical discharge in 2002.

On May 24, 2003, Bill came home to find Lawrence — who took a variety of medications to try to cope with the injuries from the accident — not breathing. She died that night at age 39.

As much as she loved the Mounties, Bill says it would have been a huge challenge for her as a black woman to navigate its rigid hierarchy and the ingrained culture and mentality of the “upper brass.”

He’s revisiting Lawrence’s files because he doesn’t want her achievements to fade.

“There are some things I’m starting to uncover,” he says, “slowly but surely.”

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At last count in 2017, Smith says there were approximately 300 black Mounties. That’s less than two per cent of over 18,000 sworn members. A spokesperson for the RCMP says it doesn’t have official figures on how many black Mounties there are, and can only say that 11.4 per cent of its members as of Feb. 1, 2019, voluntarily identified as visible minorities.

“We’ve made great progress, but it’s never about stopping and saying, ‘We made great progress,’” Smith says. “It’s about the fact that we always continuously have to keep moving.”

His nearly 23 years with the RCMP included six years as a diversity policing analyst, a job that entailed educating more senior Mounties –– the “decision makers” –– about the realities of being black in Nova Scotia.

But, Smith says, ultimately, black Mounties need to be in positions of power, not just educating people in those positions. The force is currently conducting “a fairness review” to root out any potential selection bias, RCMP Staff-Sgt. Tania Vaughan said in a statement.

“People sometimes think that things are that much better, that we don’t have to make some of the overtures or do some of the things that we’ve done in the past, but we still need to,” he says.

Gosline wonders now, 50 years later, if how he chose to respond to racism in the force then has coloured his memories.

“I left the force and tried to maintain my pride and the good memories,” he says.

Gosline’s planning to request his file now.

“I want to see what other comments were made,” Gosline says. “If nothing else, I just want to get a little clarity, a little closure on just what my career was that I let go.”



https://globalnews.ca/news/4985100/black-mounties/

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    #25834927 - 02/24/19 02:48 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Yes and the same is likely to happen here koods.
There are so many ramifications it's mind boggling.

If she's still alive this Christmas I'd be surprised, I really hope her kids aren't killed along with her.

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    #25852150 - 03/04/19 02:01 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Remember the POS Houston police union guy who said the police were tired of dirtbags putting targets on their backs after five officers were shot during a raid?



Well, turns out the raid was totally illegal and it was a no knock warrant against a house that was wrongly accused by a corrupt officer and the people inside were defending themselves against what they thought was a home invasion.

The federal government has launched a civil rights investigation against th police department and one officer has been charged.

The police in this country are corrupt beyond belief.



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    #25852422 - 03/04/19 04:03 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a police appreciation song:





Thank you, Mr. Officer Great 
For all the things you've said to me 
For all the good that you have ever done 
Without you, what would I be? 
You're the gas upon my flames 
My love and rage all rolled up into one 
For every time your gun goes off 
A new rebel is born 
So when there's 41 bullets 
It's 41,000 thorns in your side 
We'll take a ride down to Precinct 29 
And we'll sing and dance and break the code of silence 

Thank you Governor, thank you Governor 
To the Mayor and the commissioner 
Your monster is alive now 
She's taking to the streets 
Crashing through your operahouse 
And tearing out the seats 
For every time you've signed your name 
Someone out there dies 
Found a wallet, not a gun 
And mother's wiping tears from her eyes 
We despise your hollow truths and honest lies 
Now you can't sing the monster into slumber 

Thanks, bastards! 
You made me what I am 
Thanks, bastards! 
I took the goods and ran 

Homeland security vs. civil liberty 
I'm studying in the shadows of our state 
I've seen the bones they try to hide 
Cutthroat living's other side 
The flood of U.S. bathwater displaced 
The funeral march of all the victims 
Of your power war 
Rob the rights and steal the nights 
And rebels shall be born 
Forevermore 
You're the storm 
We shall play after it pours 
And joy is sure to come after your silence


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    #25852436 - 03/04/19 04:07 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Also, Montréal based anarchist media collective, sub.Media, have an ongoing documentary series. The first one of 2019 is:

TROUBLE 18: ACAB


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Cops are the front-line of the state, tasked with defending and reinforcing all illegitimate hierarchies of power. They are the armed enforcers of white supremacy who catch paid vacations for murdering Black children in the streets. They are the knock on the door to evict you from your home. They are the no-knock SWAT Team raid that shoots your dog. They are the corrupt overseers of the ghetto, the barrio, the favela. They are the unmarked cruiser that slows down to harass a sex worker. They are the vicious interrogators of rape survivors. They are the protectors of bulldozers and pipelines. They are the batons, flash bangs and rubber bullets used to break up our demonstrations, and put down our riots. They are the guardians of capital. They are the oppressor. And without exception… they’re all bastards.

As the overlapping and reinforcing internal crises of capitalism continue to pose an existential threat to the very foundations of state power, governments around the world are doubling-down on their internal security. In many cases, this has come in the form of intense militarization and counterinsurgency training… a process that blurs the traditional line between domestic policing and military forces.  But further equipping the police does nothing to address the root causes of oppression, exploitation and ecological destruction fuelling social revolt… if anything, it just ups the stakes.






Check it out!



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    #25853396 - 03/05/19 02:17 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

shivas.wisdom said:
Also, Montréal based anarchist media collective, sub.Media, have an ongoing documentary series. The first one of 2019 is:

TROUBLE 18: ACAB


Quote:

Cops are the front-line of the state, tasked with defending and reinforcing all illegitimate hierarchies of power. They are the armed enforcers of white supremacy who catch paid vacations for murdering Black children in the streets. They are the knock on the door to evict you from your home. They are the no-knock SWAT Team raid that shoots your dog. They are the corrupt overseers of the ghetto, the barrio, the favela. They are the unmarked cruiser that slows down to harass a sex worker. They are the vicious interrogators of rape survivors. They are the protectors of bulldozers and pipelines. They are the batons, flash bangs and rubber bullets used to break up our demonstrations, and put down our riots. They are the guardians of capital. They are the oppressor. And without exception… they’re all bastards.

As the overlapping and reinforcing internal crises of capitalism continue to pose an existential threat to the very foundations of state power, governments around the world are doubling-down on their internal security. In many cases, this has come in the form of intense militarization and counterinsurgency training… a process that blurs the traditional line between domestic policing and military forces.  But further equipping the police does nothing to address the root causes of oppression, exploitation and ecological destruction fuelling social revolt… if anything, it just ups the stakes.






Check it out!








Thanks for posting that, a docu worth watching.


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    #25859479 - 03/07/19 09:05 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

This is a short article about two police officers who had 'relations' with an 18 year old girl that they had in custody. She accused them of rape, but it ended up having been consensual (possibly in exchange for letting her go, which it seems they did).

It turns out, that in New York, there weren't any laws on the books, preventing police from having sex with someone in their custody, but that has since changed, because of this incident.


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    #25861702 - 03/08/19 07:04 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I think that the law in that state was written so that sex with a cop is automatically consensual if it happens after they arrest you.  If we clap loud enough then we might get to hear Enlil explain how it's not actually rape.  :justdontknow:


Anyway, here's a couple of the boys in blue sticking it to those delinquents over in hospice.

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