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Necropolis
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
#25544204 - 10/17/18 10:03 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?
That's actually a decent question. Nobody can give you the 100% true answer to that, but an estimate may suffice.
A lot of people get a thrill from running from the cops. I've known a lot of people that did from every race. In Colorado for example, there is way less cops than there is in Texas. The crime rate is also significantly lower. If certain things aren't illegal and aren't policed, then there is no profit. The cops actually make the criminals money. Without laws and police, a lot of criminals would be losing their profits and thus wouldn't be committing as much crime. That's capitalism. One form of it anyway.
That's why crime decreases when pot is legalized or decriminalized.
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qman
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
#25544315 - 10/17/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?
Police respond to violent acts from calls by the public, they don't find it more often with "increased policing".
Does increased policing results in more traffic stops or drug arrests? Yes.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: qman] 3
#25544455 - 10/17/18 11:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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“There’s no way to avoid this” says nation with the highest incarceration rate in the world.
We have more people in prison today than the Soviets did at the height of the gulags. Land of the free though because uhhhh free enterprise.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Tantrika]
#25612291 - 11/13/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just came here to look for anything about this. So many “good guy with a gun” posts over the years, I’m curious about what the proponents of that line of thought have to say about this killing. AFAIK, the NRA hasn’t addressed it yet.
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natedawgnow
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Wow....
Fucking deplorable.
No 2A gang member will comment on this most likely. This is fucking sad
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow]
#25612711 - 11/13/18 06:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Come on, we all know in practice that the second amendment is really for white people. The only gun problem these people see is black people with guns. I’ve never heard a single one of them argue that the black residents of Chicago have the right to their guns, even when they make the most extreme arguments for permissive gun laws for everyone else.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
#25612750 - 11/13/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats the 2A gang for ya. This is a fucking tragedy
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shivas.wisdom
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#25613630 - 11/14/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
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MycoMinded
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Couldn't they see he was wearing a uniform?
Black people with guns is why CA has stricter gun laws than most states. They weren't fond of armed black panthers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
And some people argue 2A is there to keep the govt in line. I give them about a 30 second life expectancy if they decide to exercise that "right"
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Enlil
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shivas.wisdom said: Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
For what it's worth, they're probably right. Racism was ubiquitous at the time. It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
#25613791 - 11/14/18 08:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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shivas.wisdom said: Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
For what it's worth, they're probably right. Racism was ubiquitous at the time. It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.
Yet, I'm the bad guy for pointing it out.
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ballsalsa
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
#25613828 - 11/14/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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shivas.wisdom said: Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
For what it's worth, they're probably right. Racism was ubiquitous at the time. It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.
I thought they were talking about the 14th though. Certainly the implications of the 14th amendment with regard to people of color would have been well understood in its time.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
#25614015 - 11/14/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said:
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shivas.wisdom said: Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
For what it's worth, they're probably right. Racism was ubiquitous at the time. It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.
Sure and I don't dispute that, but using historical racism as an argument for how the laws of today should be interpreted makes little room for dodging claims of wishing to preserve institutional racism.
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lowbrow
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shivas.wisdom said:
Sure and I don't dispute that, but using historical racism as an argument for how the laws of today should be interpreted makes little room for dodging claims of wishing to preserve institutional racism.
What institutional racism?
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: lowbrow]
#25614062 - 11/14/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.
Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.
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qman
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shivas.wisdom said: Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.
Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.
A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants. That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship.
I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.
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lowbrow
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: ballsalsa]
#25614161 - 11/14/18 11:34 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Innocent sovereign citizen harassed while traveling.
The same sovereign citizen being fatally harassed at gun point.
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lowbrow
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shivas.wisdom said: Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.
Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.
I know what institutional racism is, I’m asking WHAT institutional racism?
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