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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26799705 - 07/02/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea they were wrong. It wasn't bleach in their drinks it was cleaning solution, and they weren't poisoned but somehow it was inadvertantly introduced to their drinks






Or perhaps a cement-like substance? Special agent Milkshakes is on the case!





Sounds like they were doing their best to support the police, ensuring that they were safe from the Kung Flu.

Just what the POTUS ordered!

EDIT: Never thought I'd see a "police appreciation thread" on a drug forum, but here we are. Any of y'all supporting the thin blue line consider taking your grow down to the station? Probably get some dude a promotion. Gotta support the pigs!


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #27345791 - 06/12/21 04:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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How can people have the right to defend themselves if they don't know the people breaking down the door are cops, and they really shouldn't shoot at them.




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I don't really see an inconsistency there.  A no-knock warrant doesn't remove a citizen's right to defend himself.  Cops executing a no-knock warrant assume the risk of being harmed during the process.  The point of a no-knock warrant SHOULD be that the risk of being harmed is higher by knocking than by not knocking.  The situations where this is the case are few, but they do exist.





Pretty sure that in NC, SYG/Castle Doctrine cannot be used as a legal defense if you shoot a bail bondsman, a cop, or a landlord. Whether they identify themselves or not does not seem to matter.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #27346290 - 06/13/21 01:45 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think Tennessee has the same exception that North Carolina has.

I do think it's funny that NC specifically names landlords as immune to being shot in self defence, but that's because a landlord has no duty to inform you they're coming over for a visit.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27347265 - 06/13/21 09:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Seems to me that the whole question of whether this is a settled case speaks more than how the case is settled.

In the developed world, police kill three people per year, not per day.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27351752 - 06/17/21 06:15 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

"clear the square" sounds like a neutral objective, while "beat down the protesters" sounds unnecessarily violent.

They aren't "civilian casualties", they're "collateral damage".


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27355203 - 06/19/21 01:13 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Police can TOTALLY shoot someone without intending to do harm. Sometimes, they reach for their taser and accidentally draw their gun. Common mistake.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27355353 - 06/19/21 03:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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I agree. In the same sense, someone could definitely push someone with intent to harm. There's also the question of reckless actions that don't necessarily carry a specific intent to harm. That being said, I'm interested in hearing how FW resolves this with their claim. Maybe they've considered something that I haven't.




I was absolutely attempting to be facetious. The fact that "a cop can unintentionally shoot someone" is a statement that can be taken seriously is sad.

I expect FW will reconcile this the same way he always does: deferring to the cops. The old man should have stayed home like a good little citizen. Instead, he fucked around and found out.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27356393 - 06/20/21 12:07 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Falcon's entire point is that he doesn't have a point, and simply argues in opposition to your point. That does not mean he supports the converse of your point, because Falcon himself has no point.

And he will defend his lack of point with zeal and fervor rivaled only by a holy crusader, spreading it over dozens of pages of forum posts.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27356421 - 06/20/21 12:19 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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My point, which I've stated repeatedly, is that this isn't a settled matter.  Would you like to claim it is settled, and have the discussion Shivas appears to be trying to avoid?  :smirk:




Exactly. Your point is that there is no point that can be made.

As is often the case. I don't particularly want to have a discussion with you, and have, as always, made efforts to avoid directly addressing you.

Entirely because you rarely have a point nowadays.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: chopstick]
    #27362735 - 06/25/21 12:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Freedom ain't free.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27362767 - 06/25/21 01:14 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Yup. Cops showed up to a call about a gun with a gun shooting people, found a guy with a gun, and shot him.

Wrong guy. Oops.

Well, whatcha gonna do? Split second life and death decisions and all that.

If your friend was black, they'd probably be talking about how he might have smoked weed once, like that one time the same exact thing happened except the cops showed up and shot a mall security guard.

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Why don't you try telling that to my friend's family? Whom are now mourning his death because some moron opened fire on the police, creating the situation in the first place.




No, they're mourning his death because your friend was holding a gun in the vicinity of a shooting. That's just called being an idiot.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow]
    #27362823 - 06/25/21 01:57 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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And no dude if you look at the statistics violent crime is down every decade.




Not quite true, there was a bit of an uptick in violent crime back in 2016-2017, but it's dropped back down to pre-Trump levels since then. Except for murders, murders spiked overall in 2019-2020.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #27363707 - 06/26/21 04:53 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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If we approached the police system from the opinion that it's function is to protect the rest of society, it just doesn't make sense that 'protecting the protectors' should overshadow that initial role. People shouldn't die because the police assumed they were guilty; the role of protector means that police should die because they assume everyone is innocent until proven guilty.




Then police have to be willing to sacrifice themselves for the public, which is something that I think a lot of cops will have big issues with. The cop speaking circuit and union reps will definitely have big problems with this.

Assuming this is the Colorado shooting, here's a detail that I think is quite relevant. Your friend, upon shooting the shooter, went and picked up the shooter's gun before being shot. So not only was he the only guy with a gun when cops showed up, he was holding the shooter's gun.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: chopstick]
    #27365302 - 06/27/21 03:22 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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...when you're in an active shooter situation and your adrenaline is pumping and you've got no clue what the fuck is going on it's easy to make a mistake like that.




"Now folks, y'see, this is why we need MORE guns in the hands of untrained civilians, as only a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun"


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27366362 - 06/28/21 02:55 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Requiring cops to have more education than a GED and 19 weeks of shooting practice would go a long way towards fixing the issue.

Something the army recently considered was putting an age requirement to be part of assault infantry, I think they said 26+, as a sort of maturity requirement. That would probably help as well (I think cali floated it for cops).

Banning "Warrior cop" training, or at least getting rid of taxpayer funded vacations for police to go to warrior cop conferences would go a long way.

Stopping the war on drugs would help. Stopping the flow of military equipment to civilian police forces would as well.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 1
    #27370782 - 07/01/21 05:45 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

They've been doing that for some time.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #27377928 - 07/07/21 04:45 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty sure Minneapolis banned high speed chases around 2010, so...what do you think is gonna happen for the cop that broke the law in the process of killing an innocent civilian?

Edit: Nope, they only banned high speed chases for non-violent crimes.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #27488499 - 10/01/21 09:36 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe someone wasn't serious about killing themselves but they will definitely think twice before pulling some bullshit like this again so for that and for the fact that everyone stopped worrying when she was found, I do appreciate what the cops did




They're definitely gonna think twice about leaving a note, that's for sure.

I'm guessing that medical bill is a very effective lesson on mental health in the US: You either suffer in silence or you get a gun to ensure you die.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: bodhisatta]
    #27489008 - 10/01/21 05:07 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

It's pretty simple, really. Explains conservative politics pretty well:

If conservatives agree, then it is good and consistent and everyone should strive to do it.

If conservatives disagree, then it is wrong and evil and toxic and divisive.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #27495006 - 10/06/21 03:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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So you’re down with making threats against teachers?




Remember, white people can;t be terrorists. When a white person threatens to shoot up a school, they're just "concerned about the children".

I actually don't know what I would think if some parent shot up a school to "protect the children". Like, I get that it probably makes sense in the mind of a Trump supporter. I guess it's like the whole honor killing mentality for girls that get raped in the middle east.


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