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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #25612699 - 11/13/18 06:27 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Wow....

Fucking deplorable.

No 2A gang member will comment on this most likely. This is fucking sad


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25612750 - 11/13/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Thats the 2A gang for ya. This is a fucking tragedy :sad:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #26699203 - 05/27/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder how our right wing members would react to a video of a black cop
kneeling on the neck of a white man til he dies.


I guess modern right wingers are advocates of authoritarian control and no
longer believe in the 1st amendment, the 4th amendment, the 6th amendment,
or the 8th amendment. Basically the whole bill of rights except number 2.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26704250 - 05/29/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

In some states it's legal to defend yourself against police using excessive force.

NJ is an example. But the court had this stipulation
 “defendant loses his privilege of self-defense if he knows that if he submits to the officer,
the officer’s excessive use of force will cease.”

In this case, if this were in NJ he could have fought back and been in the clear.

Enlil, if bystanders, maybe 2 or 3, pushed the cop off of him, do you think they
would have suffered serious consequences or could they have a case in their defense?

The fact that 4 or 5 people just stood by and filmed and didn't intervene is a really
sad testament to the fear ingrained in our society by law enforcement. These people
aren't above the law and our tax dollars pay them. This is so fucked up.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26704364 - 05/29/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sure if you were 1 person; but thats why i said a group of 2+ because it is less
likely for the cops to turn on and kill a group while being filmed than it is for them to
claim that 1 person went crazy and attacked them.

It may be legal for bystanders to do so in MN but I dont know cause I havent looked
at their laws.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: meltdowner] * 3
    #26705904 - 05/29/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ya you definitely didnt read it. Wbere does it say he was on drugs?

It specifically says the excessive force, coupled with his pre existing condition
and possible intoxicants did him in. It doesnt say he was on drugs, it says
possible intoxicants.

Besides, people are known to have preexisting conditions. Maybe cops should think about that before using excessive force.

George's crime is he used a counterfeit 20. You do realise anybody who accepts cash could
possibly use a counterfeit 20? Do you deserve to die for using a fake 20 at a convenience store?

Pretty sure you're a xul puppet. Your styles are pretty similar


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #26705933 - 05/29/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

His hatred of black people outweighs his hatred of cops, I imagine.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26705957 - 05/29/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Eh actually looking at his reg date and what not maybe not a xul puppet.
Just an equally obtuse and bigoted right wing cliche.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26706052 - 05/29/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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meltdowner said:
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natedawgnow said:
Ya you definitely didnt read it. Wbere does it say he was on drugs?

It specifically says the excessive force, coupled with his pre existing condition
and possible intoxicants did him in. It doesnt say he was on drugs, it says
possible intoxicants.

Besides, people are known to have preexisting conditions. Maybe cops should think about that before using excessive force.

George's crime is he used a counterfeit 20. You do realise anybody who accepts cash could
possibly use a counterfeit 20? Do you deserve to die for using a fake 20 at a convenience store?

Pretty sure you're a xul puppet. Your styles are pretty similar



Maybe you shouldnt commit crimes and attack cops if you have preexisting conditions buddy.  Take some self responsibility.



Again, anybody who accepts cash for services runs the risk of using a counterfeit
bill at a convenience store.

Is using a fake 20 worth dying for? Where did you see evidence he attacked cops?
You are full of shit yo


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 2
    #26706058 - 05/29/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It didnt. He's full of shit yo


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot] * 2
    #26708102 - 05/30/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just got back from denver. Got tear gassed and police/guard were driving around
in trucks shooting protesters with rubber bullets to coral them away from downtown.

Seriously it was nuts

Pic of the civic center in front of the capitol building


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26712669 - 06/01/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Did he even read the document he posted? Under cause of death it doesnt say "meth" :lol:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
    #26720163 - 06/04/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Crazy how many of qmans recent posts I find myself agreeing with lately :lol:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26732848 - 06/09/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Trump guessed at what the guy was doing.  I'm wondering if you or koods have a better guess?



Are you saying his assertion that the old man was an antifa provocateur there
to jam his police scanner, making the hard shove that knocked him out justified,  is credible?

Jesus, dude.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26732865 - 06/09/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looked to me like he had his phone in his hand and was using it as an extension
of his hand while gesturing to their riot gear. In no way does that look like
he's trying to jam his scanner


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26732896 - 06/09/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly dude it really doesnt look like he touched him at all. He was waiving
his phone back and forth gesturing towards his riot gear


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26733076 - 06/10/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I didn't say the cops behaved appropriately, I didn't say I thought the guy was with antifa.  I don't know why you guys are make believing I did.  :shrug:



No, we're not.  I specifically asked you why it mattered what he was doing, and you said because Trump had a guess, and then you invited me to guess.  This misses the entire point, which is that Trump is deflecting from the evil in that video and making it about something else.



Where was "the point" brought up before just now?  I don't disagree with you, but there were other points:

- Koods was make believing about OAN rebroadcasting this from Sputnik
- A 75 old man reached out and touched, or almost touched the police.  My wife thinks he may have wanted to grab a weapon
- I agree with MagicMush123 that it wasn't too much of a push, but unfortunately the guy was 75 and fell hard

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He's minimizing what the cop did.  And you, by engaging in the exact same speculation, are doing the same thing.



That's why I asked it was ok for the guy to reach out and touch or almost touch the cops.  Whether or not they were justified to push him away impacts my opinion.  It was pretty clear to me they didn't intend for the guy to fall on his head, but that's my opinion.



Is your wife blind? How anybody can interpret tbat as him reaching for a weapon
is beyond me :facepalm:

Is he supposed to hold the gun he stole in the hand holding the cell phone
or the hand holding the motorcycle helmet? Did your wife see a 3rd hand reaching for the gun?

Maybe tell your wife to leave the speculating to people who can actually see and
also comprehend what theyre seeing.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26733238 - 06/10/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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natedawgnow said:
Is your wife blind? How anybody can interpret tbat as him reaching for a weapon
is beyond me :facepalm:



No, she's not blind.  She recently attended a citizen police academy (I forgot the exact name) where she drove around with local cops and watched real videos of how police activity that looked routine turned deadly for police in an instant.  Hence, she's seen things that most people haven't, and has much more of an appreciation for why many police can be nervous.



Again, which hand was he going to hold the weapon in? The mystical 3rd hand that your
wife was trained to see in these situations to help justify police brutality?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26736267 - 06/11/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
...the question remains weather citizens are entitled to swipe their hands across a cop without getting pushed away.  Enlil refused to answer that question for some strange reason.



It's a stupid question.  It has nothing to do with him being a cop.  You can use reasonable force to defend yourself against a threat of imminent harm.  There's no threat of imminent harm, and certainly nothing to suddenly make it "reasonable" to push an old man to the ground and crack his skull open.



It may be a stupid question for a group of lawyers, but most of us here aren't lawyers.

So you're saying the cops WERE justified for pushing the guy away!  Sure, the end result was bad, but I don't think the push was intended to crack the guy's skull open.  And I KNOW there are many others who would agree that wasn't the cops' intent.



I guess it's not just your wife thats blind :lol:

Enlil literally said in the quote above that there was NO imminent harm thus the
push was NOT justified.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26736274 - 06/11/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No one swiped their phone across police radios dude. It's very obvious that he's
an old man who gesticulates a lot and he was obviously gesturing to their gear
with a phone in his hand.


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