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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Necropolis] * 3
    #25532866 - 10/12/18 05:38 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Necropolis said:
Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




The issue is, what do "good" cops do when the bad one's violate rights and break the law? 

Turning a blind eye doesn't mean they're not complicit.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Necropolis] * 6
    #25534500 - 10/13/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/are-police-breaking-the-law-to-campaign-against-marijuana-legalization/

Police and prison unions have protested against the legalization of marijuana since day one across the entire US.

It's a big business for them and it's solid job security.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-marijuana-legalization_us_5876889be4b03c8a02d4f097

Only 1/3 of cops support marijuana legalization.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25537505 - 10/14/18 05:39 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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think you probably live in a quiet suburban area like a lot of police-hating liberals




Cities have the highest concentration of liberals. The truth is literally the opposite of how you think the world is. In DC, 93% of the vote went to Hillary




Blacks automatically voting Democratic doesn't really mean the city is full of "liberals".  :lol:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25537635 - 10/14/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
DC is full of liberals. White liberals. Black liberals. Asian liberals.




It's full of people who vote for the Democratic Party, that's all.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #25539687 - 10/15/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Stable Genius said:
Geez I was sure you were a cop?
Now I see by your post you're just another redneck, rascist, Trumptard.
PS, you don't need to live in the country to be identified as having a red neck either.




Why is he a "redneck, racist, Trumptard?" 

Because he suggested BOTH whites and blacks are on the receiving end of police abuse?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25540212 - 10/15/18 07:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Blacks are disproportionately affected. This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times on this forum and that’s lowballing it.




Males are also disproportionately affected (more so than blacks), so are people in the 18-45 year age range. 

Those facts don't mean there's any sort of conspiracy taking place.

"This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times"


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25540276 - 10/15/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you actually believe this shit or is it just what your training manual tells you to say in response to institutionalized racism?




You have stated in the past you're just as concerned about the institutional sexism facing males in the criminal justice system, have you had a change of heart on the issue?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Necropolis]
    #25544139 - 10/17/18 09:41 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

So a demographic that commits more crime increases the potential interactions with law enforcement, which potentially leads to more violent interactions relative to the general population?  That's too much basic commonsense there. :lol:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25544315 - 10/17/18 10:50 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?




Police respond to violent acts from calls by the public, they don't find it more often with "increased policing". 

Does increased policing results in more traffic stops or drug arrests?  Yes.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25613791 - 11/14/18 08:34 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.



For what it's worth, they're probably right.  Racism was ubiquitous at the time.  It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.




Yet, I'm the bad guy for pointing it out.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25614094 - 11/14/18 11:10 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.




A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants.  That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship. 

I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25614722 - 11/14/18 03:25 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants.  That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship. 

I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.



Yes, but if that metric is one intended to favour only white people, than you have a racist immigration policy.

Would it be legal for a nation to do this? Sure, we all know international law is a joke. Would it be ethical? Most would consider discrimination based on race to no longer be ethical.





The metric should be if the immigration or not benefits US citizens.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25616140 - 11/15/18 10:36 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Illegal immigrants benefit the US. They pick your food.




It's not for you to make the determination, it's for US citizens to make it. 

For all I know, you could be a person that profits off immigration and doesn't give two shits on how it affects the rest of the US population.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25616212 - 11/15/18 10:59 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Actually it’s not an opinion for the American people to make. It’s a fact.




No, it's your opinion that illegals benefit the US population, many people obviously disagree. 

Either way, it should be up to US citizens to make that determination, not you.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25768268 - 01/25/19 04:52 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?



Why do you feel sympathy for drunk drivers who selfishly put other lives at risk?

My brothers a cop and I still love him, so despite my firm commitment to the truth of 'all cops are bastards' I am able to recognize that behind the uniform is still a human and I don't wish disproportionate violence on any of them.

That being said, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. I especially have no sympathy for drunk driving cops who have almost certainly arrested other people for this exact crime before and are only upset because they were wrong to consider themselves above the law.

Punitive justice is not ideal. I think a reformative system is the direction we should move in. I'm still not going to shed any tears for a cop being force fed their own medicine.




So your brother is a cop, very interesting.

If I can ask, do you have a decent relationship with him?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #25768293 - 01/25/19 05:02 PM (5 years, 3 days ago)

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qman said:
So your brother is a cop, very interesting.

If I can ask, do you have a decent relationship with him?




He said he loves him.




I understand that fact, many times we love our family members but don't have decent relationships with them. I think he can answer for himself, if he so chooses to do so.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25769563 - 01/26/19 07:39 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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I spend most of my time travelling around and usually have an ocean or several provinces separating us, plus I'm a fairly reclusive individual, so I'm not really involved with the daily life of any of my family.

But, I'll see them maybe once or twice a year, and there's no bad blood - despite the fact that I make no attempt to hide my opinion of police from them - and beyond his career choice, I vibe pretty well with my brother so I would describe it as a descent relationship.

I definitely wish he had got work as a firefighter, as was his original hope, because then I could actually respect the work he does.

And I don't know what he would do if we ever found ourselves on opposing sides of a revolt.





Thanks for the honest response. :thumbup:  Glad too hear you are on good terms with each other.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #25878838 - 03/16/19 08:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Tantrika said:
don't worry tho
the science once seemed to imply that alpha males are a thing
so even if the science has since been shown through additional data to be wrong
it's prolly still a real thing and the mainstream media is just trying to cover it up now to feminize alpha men
:elmo:




I'm fairly certain that primates, such as baboons, have alphas, and also other animals that live in groups, such as lions. There was this documentary about baboons, where the alphas hoarded some meat they stumbled upon, and prevented the lower ranking males from eating it. The meat turned out to be poisoned.

All of the alphas died. The troop had been incredibly violent, bullying and harassing one another quite brutally. After all of the violent alphas were killed, the baboons no longer fought, and became a lot more communal. I believe even a decade later, the dynamics remained completely changed.

My point is, we need to kill the authoritarian bootlickers so we can do communism.




Which are even worse "authoritarian bootlickers". :cookiemonster:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #26700401 - 05/27/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Enlil said:
Manslaughter is the best case scenario.



Could be self defense if he attacked the cops. We will see once we have seen the whole video.



It’s no longer self defense when the guy is handcuffed and face down on the ground, the cops were in no danger at that point.




:whathesaid:


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 6
    #26704126 - 05/29/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, when a private citizen does something questionable, the cops and DA trump up a long list of criminal charges. Why didn't they charge the cops within 24 hours to avoid this inevitable rioting?  I'm sorry, but the police and justice system own this mess with their reluctance to do the right thing.


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