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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25532848 - 10/12/18 05:30 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #25534368 - 10/13/18 11:51 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Slave Patrols and Civil Servants: A History of Policing in Two Modes
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The police are the absolute enemy. Grounded in slave patrols in the early American South, the institution has an unbroken history of protecting and upholding white supremacy. Recent movements in the United States have clarified this lineage of racist violence, beginning with slave patrols and culminating in indiscriminate police killings of black bodies. But white supremacy is not the only function of the police: the history of British policing is one of capturing and controlling unruly workers—of the creation of “white working class” subjects through a process of inclusion, discipline, and education. The police have a dual history: one of violent exclusion, one of insidious inclusion. If our opposition to the police rests only on their heritage of racism or class oppression, then we risk attacking a symptom instead of uprooting the whole. We are against the police not only for their clubs and their guns, but also for the ways they infiltrate our minds, making us citizen-cops and unwitting accomplices.





That's kind of ridiculous. I'm sure it happens in some places, but for the most part, a black cop will keep an extra close eye on blacks, mexican cops on mexicans, etc.

Nothing wrong with looking out for your own people as long as you don't go to the extremes with it and start giving people a free pass to do fucked up shit based on their race.

Which is what the federal government's job is.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25534370 - 10/13/18 11:52 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
There are no good cops. Good cops get rats stuck under their windshield wipers. Good cops get death threats. Good cops quit or get fired. The police forces in America are utterly corrupt organizations that act more like street gangs than public servants.



Care to point out a single government in the world that isn't corrupt?


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #25534376 - 10/13/18 11:58 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
Here’s a good story about a cop who tried to be good

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent/act-two-0

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For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do. For example, downgrading real crimes into lesser ones, so they wouldn't show up in the crime statistics and make their precinct look bad. Adrian's story first appeared as a five part series in the Village Voice, written by Graham Rayman. (41 minutes)







That's a very interesting and disturbing recording regarding the police in New York. Very disturbing.


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Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.




Listening to that recording koods posted brought a wave of stress over me as I remembered the numerous occassions that I've been fucked over by the police.
20 years old, growing 120 plants, I was looking at imprisonment, the only thing in my favour was it was my first offence. Police stole my rent money and electricity money and I ended up into forced rehab, 2 years probation reporting, psychiatric evaluations, for growing cannabis.
The reason I was growing? It was the only thing that calmed me down as I wasn't aware I had/still have a mild case of PTSD after having the shit flogged out of me a year earlier in the local watch house for the heinous crime of being drunk.
Go forward a few more years, 3 more police raids for cannabis, twice I have had my house trashed during a raid. There are a few more situations I could blab on about but you get the picture.
People want and need a police force they can TRUST and RESPECT, I want to be able to trust and respect police but I physically can't even be around you lot without my stomach twisting into a knot, waves of nausea flooding my body, and sweating profusely. That's just how it is now.
Something has to change. The pot helps but it isn't working quite as well as it used to, that's why I've ended up here, looking at using mushrooms and maybe dmt. That's how the police have helped me grrrrrrr


Well, maybe you should be more understanding of the police. A lot of police have PTSD as well. A lot, in some cases over 75% are ex military. What do you expect?

I mean people act surprised when police are jumpy or trigger happy. Who else do you think is going to do that shitty job? Sure, you get to sit in an air conditioned squad car or office, but there's still going to be the times when you get a call and some psycho possibly covered in his own shit and blood may lunge at you with a knife or shoot at you. Seriously, why would you expect nice Andy Griffith types to be doing that job?

I've had my share of encounters with the bad ones. But I know how to act around different kinds of people. The first time I got handcuffed for talking shit and thrown into a squad car. After that, I learned my lesson. Treat cops with respect and talk articulately and usually they'll treat you accordingly. That has been the case with myself and the various black and mexicans I've known throughout the years that've encountered cops and sometimes been arrested for different crimes.

Remember, they don't make the laws. If they did, most cops wouldn't want to arrest you for pot or mushrooms. Those laws wouldn't exist.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: qman]
    #25534558 - 10/13/18 01:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/are-police-breaking-the-law-to-campaign-against-marijuana-legalization/

Police and prison unions have protested against the legalization of marijuana since day one across the entire US.

It's a big business for them and it's solid job security.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-marijuana-legalization_us_5876889be4b03c8a02d4f097

Only 1/3 of cops support marijuana legalization.



Who hates cops? Democrats, antifa. Who violently assaults Trump supporters? Democrats, antifa.

What do you suppose happens to cops that don't go along with the program, even if most of them realize pot shouldn't be illegal?




Women and children were attacked as well, for supporting Trump. It's pretty rare to hear of people on the right being violent towards the left, and all too common to hear about violent leftists, even though media is mostly left.

Barry Cooper's life was sabotaged for speaking out against marijuana prohibition and the war on drugs. When people have good intentions sometimes they can't publicly reveal that, because they'll have to face backlash from those at the top.

Who do people really support, what do they really support? Since you may be violently attacked for your beliefs in this day and age, there is no way to really know. A lot of people would say they're anti marijuana just so they don't become targeted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insider_(film)

There's a lot of money behind this.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #25536476 - 10/14/18 10:48 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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GrowinDaMushies said:
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Necropolis said:
Well, there are some bad police. Most of us aren't bad though.



Absolutely false.
Yes I only have anecdotal evidence, but the VAST majority of cops I have ever had the misfortune of interacting with beyond a passing greeting has been an overwhelmingly negative experience, and the vast majority of those negative experiences had the negativity initiated and escalated by the officer, not by me, and not a single interaction was EVER because I was doing something illegal. I even just had another horrible experience today.

I didn't suspect you to be a cop, but you are a huge crazy asshole. so I guess I'm not surprised.

FUCK YOU PIG! I hope you have a miserable life. Because you fucks have done your best to make mine miserable.



Maybe you should just pull your pants up or something and stop dressing like a gangster? I mean seriously, I live in a city that probably has way more cops than yours, and I don't get that kind of interaction. I've also lived in the hood where drive-by shootings are common-place and the cops there aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be.

Basically, if you want to draw negative attention to yourself, they'll view you that way. Just stop with the psychological projections already. The world needs peace, not "fuck da policee!!!!11"

Your mentality is the reason the world can't be more peaceful and productive. People like you are making cops even more jumpy, getting more innocent people caught in the crossfire. Your generalizations are the same thing racists do towards people of a different race than them. Prejudice.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: waves]
    #25536664 - 10/14/18 12:09 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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waves said:
I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then? Or the hood in chicago. Shit, try the hood in my city. I think you probably live in a quiet suburban area like a lot of police-hating liberals.

You'd rather take your chances with criminals than be around police, yet you live in a safe cushy area...

Police are a deterrent, they can't automatically save your ass when you're in trouble, but I guarantee they make a difference in whatever safe liberal yuppie enclave you live in.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25538785 - 10/15/18 08:46 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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Necropolis said:
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waves said:
I'd rather take my chances with the criminals myself than have those self-righteous sociopaths "protecting" me.




Why don't you move to compton then?




As someone who grew up in South Central Los Angeles, I can tell you that going to Compton is one surefire way to increase ones odds of getting shot by a cop.  I once got pulled over on a test drive for a vehicle, thrown face down on the ground at gunpoint, handcuffed, then thrown in the back of a cruiser before they even asked for my ID.



Were your pants sagging? You can't honestly answer that, you probably don't know. It would be nice to see how all of you were presenting yourselves when you had these terrible encounters with police. Myself and everyone I know just about has never had these problems, even in the worst crime ridden parts of the US.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: mycoprog]
    #25538803 - 10/15/18 08:55 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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mycoprog said:
I really like the part where you fucking pigs take little kids from their parents for shit like cannabis and hand them over to social services.

Every time a dumbass cop gets murdered, I uncontrollably blow loads all over the place.



Why don't you blame the judges and lawmakers instead? You just come across as an angsty teenager and this isn't helping us get mushrooms legalized. Someone gets interested in it after hearing people want them legalized, so they google it and find this site. Reading your comments, they'll probably quickly decide it would be a terrible idea to legalize them given so many of the people on this site have your mentality or one similar to it.

Believe it or not, folks, most liberals and democrats aren't anti-police. They're the kind of people that want guns to be illegal for everyone except the police. They need the police more than conservatives do.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25539054 - 10/15/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
No, I was in shorts and a tee shirt. I was 35 at the time.  As soon as the cop saw my white,  blonde girlfriend in the back seat,  he apologized to her and let me go.



So you aren't white? I'm not sure it matters too much that your girlfriend was blond. I think you may have hallucinated that part about the cop apologizing because of your girlfriend being blond.

It's understandable, in a situation like that, if you're black for example and the cop is white, it's easy to draw conclusions like that. But if I did that, then I'd be racist too. I have been stopped in a similar manner. The problem is often the information being given to the beat cops by the dispatcher or whoever else in their chain of command.

I was stopped once for wearing a black t shirt and blue jeans and being near a convenience store. They had a call about a guy panhandling and I knew who it was, it was a gay mexican dude about a foot shorter than me who also happened to be wearing a black t shirt and blue jeans.

So I said to the cop "You got a call about a guy panhandling with a black t shirt and blue jeans, but I'm guessing he wasn't 6'5 and white"

The cop ignored that part and asked me if I'd ever been arrested. I said  "that's kind of a stupid question, I don't feel like answering it."

He said "Do you want to be arrested?"

I said "Well, you're too fat to catch me anyway so that isn't going to happen"

He tried to open his car door and I just bolted because I knew the area much better than him. He tried to chase after me with the car but there was a road block in his way, so he just shined his spotlight, but I was zigzagging.

Cops aren't trained to shoot you in the leg. If you run, they're basically trained to shoot you in the back. If you have any issue with that, you should take it to the people making the rules and training programs. Even if they don't really want to shoot you in the back, there isn't much other option.

So, it's not always "cops hate da black n brown pplz" because it works both ways. They can be dicks, they can do things they shouldn't do, but a lot of that is a problem with the higher ups in their chain of command and the shitty dispatchers giving them wrong information. The cop I ran from was a fat mexican dude, so maybe it was a racial thing when he targeted me, possibly knowing he was supposed to be looking for someone with a different complexion that was a foot shorter, but who knows.

Most of the time though, I haven't had any problems with the cops. They ask stupid questions, and they are trained to make it look like you're doing something wrong even when you clearly aren't. But for the most part, laws need to be changed, and their training needs to be reorganized. They also need better psychological evaluations. But again, in crime ridden areas and places where ex military are having a tough time finding a job, there aren't a lot of other people willing to do it.


Edited by Necropolis (10/15/18 10:34 AM)


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
    #25539392 - 10/15/18 01:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Enlil said:
No, YOU made up the part about him apologizing because she was blonde.  I said he apologized to her when he saw her.



You implied that's why he let you go and apologized. I'm guessing you're one of those people that just gets nervous around cops. Since this is a drug site you probably have your reasons. Now since you felt the need to point out your girlfriend was blond and white and implied that's why he let you go,... I'm guessing you're a hispanic jew that works at starbucks? If that is the case then I can understand your nervousness in a situation like that.

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Enlil said:
police should not be allowed to carry while on duty.



Why don't you move to England? That's exactly how it is in much of England. Police and guns aren't the problem. It's the way police departments are managed. It's the information.

All this cop bashing, like I said, is the reason we can't legalize weed or mushrooms beyond some stupid overly commercialized state level.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #25539669 - 10/15/18 03:11 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Stable Genius said:
Geez I was sure you were a cop?
Now I see by your post you're just another redneck, rascist, Trumptard.
PS, you don't need to live in the country to be identified as having a red neck either.



What in the world gives you that idea? I don't like tobacco, I smoke weed, I don't vote, I don't wear flannel... maybe you just hate white people that believe in protecting constitutional rights. Oh wait, you're british. Nevermind. Rhetorical statement/insult, you hate guns/yourself. Gotcha.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25540099 - 10/15/18 06:13 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Blacks are disproportionately affected. This has been pointed out to you probably 500 times on this forum and that’s lowballing it.



They also have a disproportionately higher rate of violent crime, even in countries where blacks were never enslaved.

That would equal more interactions with police, which would statistically equal higher rate of being "affected" in that sense. Not to mention, it's going to make cops more jumpy.

But I must be a racist(and redneck) because I pointed this out and a british/australian dude using a generic insult says so.

EDIT: someone is trying to oppress blacks, and it isn't necessarily the police. Certain police officers of course, but that not all cops are white. Any cop, regardless what race he is, can be racist, and do his job unfairly. But like I keep pointing out, regardless of how you think math and statistics are racist, it's not the fault of the police doing their jobs. Most of them aren't contributing to this sort of thing on purpose. It's the policy makers and management.


Edited by Necropolis (10/15/18 06:16 PM)


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Stable Genius]
    #25541964 - 10/16/18 12:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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democrat bashing



The only part of your post that isn't a lie.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Necropolis]
    #25544087 - 10/17/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Tarrio and other people of color at the far-right rallies claim institutional racism no longer exists in America. In their view, blacks are to blame for any lingering inequality because they are dependent on welfare, lack strong leadership, and believe Democrats who tell them “You’re always going to be broke. You’re not going to make it in society because of institutional racism,” as one mixed-race man put it.





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If racism doesn’t exist, I ask Tarrio, how would he explain the disproportionate killing of young black men by police? “Hip-hop culture,” he says. It “glorifies that lifestyle… of selling drugs, shooting up.” Because of that, “Obviously you’re going to have higher crime rates. Obviously you’re going to have more police presence and more confrontations.”






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Sanchez says, “If black people are committing more murders, more robberies, more thefts, more violent crime, that’s why you would see more black men having encounters with the police.”

Also in Seattle, Franky Price, who said he is  “black and white,”wore a T-shirt reading, “It’s okay to be white.”






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They are among nearly a dozen black, Latino, and Asian participants at far-right rallies on the West Coast interviewed by The Daily Beast recently. They represent the new face of the far right that some scholars term “multiracial white supremacy.”




lol except not even the white ones are "supremacist"

Good points in the article, but it's leftist propaganda in the title.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-young-men-of-color-are-joining-white-supremacist-groups


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods]
    #25544204 - 10/17/18 10:03 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
So how much of their increased crime rates are from being more violent and how much of it is from increased policing causing more arrests?



That's actually a decent question. Nobody can give you the 100% true answer to that, but an estimate may suffice.

A lot of people get a thrill from running from the cops. I've known a lot of people that did from every race. In Colorado for example, there is way less cops than there is in Texas. The crime rate is also significantly lower. If certain things aren't illegal and aren't policed, then there is no profit. The cops actually make the criminals money. Without laws and police, a lot of criminals would be losing their profits and thus wouldn't be committing as much crime. That's capitalism. One form of it anyway.


That's why crime decreases when pot is legalized or decriminalized.


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