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Hahaha, you had me coming in here ready to shut down some cop lovers. Nice surprise. Here are a few of my favourite acab songs:
Thanks Bastards! by the Mischief Brew
One Dead Cop, by Leftover Crack
Cop Killer, by Body Count
Deep Cover, by Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg
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Polic Break Bad Series; aims to raise awareness of police brutality and remember the victims
1993, Waco seige
1999, Seattle WTO protests
2001, Genoa G8 protests
2010, Toronto G20 protests
2011, Egyptian protests
2011, Occupy protests
2012, Québec student protests
2013, Turkish protests
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When Protesters Strike Back; because we have to remember we aren't powerless
2017 edition
We are #1 (a personal favorite)
2016 edition
2016 French labour reforms
2015 edition
2015 extended edition
2014 edition
2013 edition
2013-14 Ukrainian protests
2012 edition
Anti Narita airport protests
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: SirTripAlot]
#25443234 - 09/07/18 06:14 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: Anyway, the paramilitary patrols that some cops do... have to go along with racial aspects of their work.
Can you clarify what you mean by this?
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] 3
#25443707 - 09/07/18 09:12 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was driving through the States with my buddy from Philly - he comes from an upper-class Ukrainian family - self-admitted bourgeois.
His car had a slow leak in one tire, and we needed to find a garage to get it patched. He sees a cop parked at a gas station and his first reaction was to say "I'll go ask the cop for directions," because in his mind police are there to help you.
I put a stop to that, saying "never involve the police in your life voluntarily." Then a little lecture on the topic of acab.
It was seriously surprising to see how rich white people view the police. Personally, the police have rarely helped me; but they've definitely gone out of their way countless times to hassle me, threaten me, and try to ruin my life. I don't feel safe around cops. I don't involve them in my life unless they force it on me.
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XUL said: Love the police and all the times they helped me out.
Why are you getting into multiple situations that require police assistance? In what ways have you been helped?
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: JHOVA]
#25444761 - 09/08/18 09:28 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: running from cops
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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This whole album is great - but this song in particular really gets my acab spirit fired up.
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Slave Patrols and Civil Servants: A History of Policing in Two Modes
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The police are the absolute enemy. Grounded in slave patrols in the early American South, the institution has an unbroken history of protecting and upholding white supremacy. Recent movements in the United States have clarified this lineage of racist violence, beginning with slave patrols and culminating in indiscriminate police killings of black bodies. But white supremacy is not the only function of the police: the history of British policing is one of capturing and controlling unruly workers—of the creation of “white working class” subjects through a process of inclusion, discipline, and education. The police have a dual history: one of violent exclusion, one of insidious inclusion. If our opposition to the police rests only on their heritage of racism or class oppression, then we risk attacking a symptom instead of uprooting the whole. We are against the police not only for their clubs and their guns, but also for the ways they infiltrate our minds, making us citizen-cops and unwitting accomplices.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] 5
#25475379 - 09/20/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need to make sure that you don't mistake criticism of white supremacy with blaming all white people.
It's undeniable that western society was built on, amongst other notions, the idea of white supremacy. Because of this, it's impossible to fully criticize things without including a criticism of white supremacy, the power structures that were built in support of white supremacy, and how these power structures may still remain to be dismantled.
For example, in the article white supremacy is brought up in discussing the roots of modern day policing in slave patrols of the American south. How does one discuss slave patrols and their development into modern day police forces without discussing white supremacy too?
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#25613630 - 11/14/18 05:51 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil]
#25614015 - 11/14/18 10:35 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: Literally in the birthright thread you have qman and TinyBee arguing that the founding fathers of the US Constitution only intended for it to apply to whites, so yeah.
For what it's worth, they're probably right. Racism was ubiquitous at the time. It's unlikely that they ever envisioned a world where people of color are their equals.
Sure and I don't dispute that, but using historical racism as an argument for how the laws of today should be interpreted makes little room for dodging claims of wishing to preserve institutional racism.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: lowbrow]
#25614062 - 11/14/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.
Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: lowbrow] 1
#25614286 - 11/14/18 12:40 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: A nation can use whatever metric it wants to accept or decline immigrants. That's the whole point of having national borders, sovereignty and citizenship.
I don't know why some people think it's some sort of free for all that doesn't discriminate based on many different factors.
Yes, but if that metric is one intended to favour only white people, than you have a racist immigration policy.
Would it be legal for a nation to do this? Sure, we all know international law is a joke. Would it be ethical? Most would consider discrimination based on race to no longer be ethical.
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shivas.wisdom said: Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.
Like writing immigration law with the intent that it will only benefit white people.
I know what institutional racism is, I’m asking WHAT institutional racism?
Sorry, misread that.
I understand the argument to be that, since the laws were originally written with the intention that they specifically benefit white people, and since these laws are no longer being applied in this way, that these laws must be rewritten to once again reflect the original intention.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but would this not be wishing to uphold institutional racism?
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No introduction necessary.
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My thing right now is appreciating police cam videos that depict cops pulling over other cops. Some of the videos reveal the "professional courtesy" one pig offers another, like this video that shows a cop being unarrested for dui once the arresting officer finds his id:
Videos that so painfully make it clear that the kiddie gloves come on when cop pulls over cops. This is another reason why police oppose body cams:
But the cams are rolling out, and the cops are starting to learn that the 'good ol days' just might be ending. It's amusing to see their confusion when they realize they aren't being let off with a handshake:
In the words of the sheriff on scene: "The cat’s out of the bag. You know, it’s not like the old days. I know you were hoping this would turn out differently, but there’s nothing I can do.”
Lastly, appreciate this cop breaking down into blubbering once he realizes that he's going to be treated like the general public:
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Bigbadwooof] 3
#25768070 - 01/25/19 03:34 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: Damn, shivas.wisdom... a couple of those videos had me feeling sympathy for police. What the fuck dude?
Why do you feel sympathy for drunk drivers who selfishly put other lives at risk?
My brothers a cop and I still love him, so despite my firm commitment to the truth of 'all cops are bastards' I am able to recognize that behind the uniform is still a human and I don't wish disproportionate violence on any of them.
That being said, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers. I especially have no sympathy for drunk driving cops who have almost certainly arrested other people for this exact crime before and are only upset because they were wrong to consider themselves above the law.
Punitive justice is not ideal. I think a reformative system is the direction we should move in. I'm still not going to shed any tears for a cop being force fed their own medicine.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Fair enough. I can relate to that. Especially the last video, buddy was definitely not in a good space.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: qman] 1
#25769496 - 01/26/19 07:00 AM (5 years, 2 days ago) |
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I spend most of my time travelling around and usually have an ocean or several provinces separating us, plus I'm a fairly reclusive individual, so I'm not really involved with the daily life of any of my family.
But, I'll see them maybe once or twice a year, and there's no bad blood - despite the fact that I make no attempt to hide my opinion of police from them - and beyond his career choice, I vibe pretty well with my brother so I would describe it as a descent relationship.
I definitely wish he had got work as a firefighter, as was his original hope, because then I could actually respect the work he does.
And I don't know what he would do if we ever found ourselves on opposing sides of a revolt.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: XUL] 5
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] 2
#25852422 - 03/04/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a police appreciation song:
Thank you, Mr. Officer Great For all the things you've said to me For all the good that you have ever done Without you, what would I be? You're the gas upon my flames My love and rage all rolled up into one For every time your gun goes off A new rebel is born So when there's 41 bullets It's 41,000 thorns in your side We'll take a ride down to Precinct 29 And we'll sing and dance and break the code of silence
Thank you Governor, thank you Governor To the Mayor and the commissioner Your monster is alive now She's taking to the streets Crashing through your operahouse And tearing out the seats For every time you've signed your name Someone out there dies Found a wallet, not a gun And mother's wiping tears from her eyes We despise your hollow truths and honest lies Now you can't sing the monster into slumber
Thanks, bastards! You made me what I am Thanks, bastards! I took the goods and ran
Homeland security vs. civil liberty I'm studying in the shadows of our state I've seen the bones they try to hide Cutthroat living's other side The flood of U.S. bathwater displaced The funeral march of all the victims Of your power war Rob the rights and steal the nights And rebels shall be born Forevermore You're the storm We shall play after it pours And joy is sure to come after your silence
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