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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 11
    #25442859 - 09/07/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

How do you get the wrong apartment then immediately shoot the guy living there. Oh sorry my bad. I’ll take a week off paid leave.

You think the resident would have gotten a paid vacation if he shot the cop who broke into his apartment?

American police forces are the most corrupt institutions in America. They are rotten to the core.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: meltdowner] * 8
    #26712475 - 06/01/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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AAAAAAAAAAND he was on meth.  Real winner.  Granted it's sad he died but it was his own doing for the most part.






Guy on drug forum believes people don't deserve due process because they are on drugs. Nicely played.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 8
    #26732890 - 06/09/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't matter if he touched the cop.  You seriously can't tell me that you don't see the true evil in recasting that video from being a 75 year old man unlawfully knocked down to a video about some man that might have touched a cop.

You really know better.

It's like saying, "Hitler was innovative as fuck the way he was able to efficiently dispose of all of those people with so little of his own manpower at use."

Evil occurred in that video.  It occurred under the volition of police.  Shifting focus away from that and looking at the dude's phone, his haircut, his shoe size, or any other bullshit irrelevant fact is being an apologist for the evil in that video.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: natedawgnow] * 8
    #26864449 - 08/05/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Why is a man being handcuffed and sat on the ground for a counterfeit bill at all?  It's fucking ridiculous.  What were they afraid of?  A paper cut? 

I'm truly shocked at the sheer amount of people on this site who are in favor of authoritarian paramilitary cops out there physically restraining people for nonviolent crimes.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 7
    #26713878 - 06/02/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why is charity even needed to begin with in the wealthiest nation in human history?  It's a disgrace when billionaires 'donate' money that should have been taxed in the first place.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: koods] * 7
    #26721280 - 06/05/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My dad went from "fuck looters, send the dogs after 'em" to "fuck the police! ACAB!"  in the span of 4 days.
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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 7
    #27347471 - 06/14/21 02:24 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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The question is whether cops had a right to push someone in the first place who wasn't obeying curfew orders?



No, cops don't have the right to physically assault people for disobeying orders. If the old man was breaking the law, then the correct response would have been to arrest him, charge him with a crime, and give him a trial - not assault him and walk away.

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Necropolis] * 6
    #25534500 - 10/13/18 12:53 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/are-police-breaking-the-law-to-campaign-against-marijuana-legalization/

Police and prison unions have protested against the legalization of marijuana since day one across the entire US.

It's a big business for them and it's solid job security.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-marijuana-legalization_us_5876889be4b03c8a02d4f097

Only 1/3 of cops support marijuana legalization.


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Re: Police de-appreciation thread [Re: meltdowner] * 6
    #26702881 - 05/28/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't matter if there's footage from before the available footage started.

The available footage has more than enough content and context


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 6
    #26703142 - 05/29/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Here’s what the Minneapolis PD 3rd Precinct, where George Floyd’s killers worked, looks like right now:



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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 6
    #26704126 - 05/29/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I agree, when a private citizen does something questionable, the cops and DA trump up a long list of criminal charges. Why didn't they charge the cops within 24 hours to avoid this inevitable rioting?  I'm sorry, but the police and justice system own this mess with their reluctance to do the right thing.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Cjmckay] * 6
    #26709970 - 05/31/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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It's a brawl. The haves versus the have-nots. The police work for the haves.




This is true, I really don't think this is exclusively about a white cop murdering a black man. It's just a small part. It's more about a corrupt justice system, horrible police tactics, the constant violation of constitutional rights and unjust laws.

More importantly, this social unrest is more about a broken economic and political system.  An economic system that embraces debt slavery and wealth inequality, a political system that is nothing more than a joke.

The government response to this pandemic was the final tipping point, people with no rent or mortgage relief, no health care, no food relief and now a full out economic depression. The government gave to the rich and crumbs to the poor.

The sad fact is this new reality of economic depression is here to stay. The social unrest is also here to stay. This is the new America, Lloyd was just the trigger and nothing more.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 6
    #26710215 - 05/31/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I guess this question is for anyone really, but how do you rationalize the fact that violent civil disobedience; rioting, looting/burning buildings and businesses, killing cops etc, warrants the police and government to enact more laws and have more cops?
You're protesting the police but your method of protest is resulting in more police and more laws, it seems counterproductive and everyone loses in the long run.
We want less laws and less police and in no way will violence or destruction accomplish that. I believe the opposite will happen



First off I want to state that "killing cops" to be the only truly violent act that you list - property destruction is not violence and it's important we don't conflate the two. 'Militant' is a more appropriate word choice.

So this is a common argument actually - militant protest only provides an excuse for the State to pass authoritarian laws. I don't dispute this reality, but I will argue that the State has been trending towards authoritarianism - towards a militarized police force - regardless. Militant protest is just that - an excuse - but I don't see it as the direct cause. If anything, it's almost a form of victim blaming: those who fight back against oppression are responsible for any resulting oppression. I don't buy it. Limiting ourselves to passive resistance won't stop the militarization of the police State.

It's also important to stress that this type of militant protest only really gets going once alternative routes have been exhausted. Non-violent calls for police reform were ignored, insulted, and met with State violence. Current events aren't happening in a vacuum. The State authorities have made it abundantly clear that they have no intent on reigning in their police dogs willingly - I don't see how a complete refusal to actually fight for our rights could be more effective than what's happening now.

The failure to oppose violence encourages or allows violence, and the effectiveness of opposition directly correlates with the level of discouragement of violence. The ideology of Nonviolence is not merely mistaken in attempting to apply one solution to fix all problems - it is an ideology used by our police State to make opposition to the violent policies of our government ineffective. The police use Nonviolence as a method of controlling potentially troublesome social change groups. Many of the Nonviolence advocates that float around the social change movements are on police payroll, or should be. Many have been trained by public relations agencies, which spotted the tactic as a very productive one for their corporate clients.

Their tactics are revealing but simplistic - they accuse anyone they disagree with of being violent - they scare their followers with stories of the terrible fates in store for anyone who brings down the wrath of the police or middle class voters. Nonviolence codes should more accurately be called 'Do Nothing' codes.

Of course the media is going to portray all groups that threaten corporate control and domination in any negative way they can - they'll call us violent at the least excuse - and Nonviolence activists will break solidarity with those who are trying to end violence, and join hands with the corporate media and police in denouncing "violent" activities. Can the media turn the middle class, even the working class, against reformers and revolutionaries? Sure! That's their job. That's one of the things their sponsoring corporations pay them for. But it isn't the violence or Nonviolence of the activists that is being targeted.

By now hopefully it's clear that Nonviolence is not the best way to minimize violence. Neither, of course, is any ideology that glorifies violence. The correct strategy is to minimize violence while we work towards our other goals. This requires that we both minimize the ability of the State to use violence and do that with a minimum of violence ourselves. The path forward is not easy, but drop the load of dogma called Nonviolence off your back and you have a lot better chance of getting where you want to go. Not all groups or individuals must act in the same way or on the same issues. Respect your brother and sister activists' work, but don't let them stop you from doing what you know you have to do.


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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 6
    #26725113 - 06/06/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The DC protest was dope. BLM is impressive. Everything hit the right tone. It was hot and there were water stations and hand santizer crews. This isn’t going to stop until the people at the top listen the fuck up.







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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: Enlil] * 6
    #26865432 - 08/05/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I seriously cant believe we have conservative members arguing on the side of the police in a debate about police brutality and federal overreach :facepalm:

Mind blowing. Truly mind blowing. Where is all the outrage about tyranny?

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Re: Police appreciation thread [Re: MagicMush123] * 5
    #25475379 - 09/20/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

You need to make sure that you don't mistake criticism of white supremacy with blaming all white people.

It's undeniable that western society was built on, amongst other notions, the idea of white supremacy. Because of this, it's impossible to fully criticize things without including a criticism of white supremacy, the power structures that were built in support of white supremacy, and how these power structures may still remain to be dismantled.

For example, in the article white supremacy is brought up in discussing the roots of modern day policing in slave patrols of the American south. How does one discuss slave patrols and their development into modern day police forces without discussing white supremacy too?


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    #26511938 - 03/01/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

He was born black.


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    #26699065 - 05/27/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't automatically, no, but your defense of it as "locker room talk" might.  Still, whether you're racist or not is irrelevant.  What IS relevant is your use of stormfront-style terms like "chimp out."  It's not welcome here, and you will be banned if such rhetoric continues.  Consider this a warning.


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    #26709240 - 05/31/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Was watching 9 streams at once last night with the chicago scanner on another window.
There were quite a few instances were the actual protesters were stopping the few in the crowd that would start destroying shit. Helping injured people and doing humane actions to remain peaceful. Some good speeches and then some others that started out good but unfortunately went to waste when they start bring up that the masons are to blame. Speak what you can prove or look like a asshat IMO :facepalm3: 

LA Chicago and Grand rapids were pretty unruly and saw little effort of folks trying to get people focused on protesting peacefully, LA and CH were a no brainer on what was gonna happen.

Got to watch a good 10 minutes of 6 people try break the toughest glass I've ever seen in grand rapids until the police showed up. (great investment since most insurance don't cover civil unrest)

My favorite of the night was nebraskas style. In the chat one guy was saying there was one going on in nebraska. We all kinda chuckled at the thought in chat. Sure enough the host found the stream and they were at it.:eek:
I don't think any llahmas were hurt during the demonstration.:cookiemonster:
Hearing one dude revving his chainsaw in the mix was like something out of a dark comedy. Come to think of it, a chainsaw would make short work or riot gear so gotta give him props thinking out side of the box. On the other hand; you don't bring weapons to maintain peaceful protest.

From what I saw was overall more peaceful and more organised than what we saw in Minneapolis on the night before, excluding Grand Rapids and CH and LA. Also keep in mind this was only a 1/4 of the whole and only 9 of the 16-21 citys had streams on because the few guys streaming couldn't be everywhere at once.

Of coarse one of the bigger diservices was seeing the media this morning and like clock work; they only gotta report on the wacky most violent and fucked up incidences of the whole ball of wax. They had Little coverage of the unity and cranked the media lens up on the destruction. The media seems to go through great lengths to control the narrative and drive the wedge of division to the core. 20 minutes of watching <one> building burn, wow so informative in depth coverage.:facepalm3:
Then they wonder why their buildings get targeted and themselves from both sides of picket lines.

It is obvious allot of the rioters looters and bad actors (MSM included) are just taking an advantage of the situation. Cops are occupied with little to stop them. Doesn't take a masters in psychology to figure that one out.

Hopefully this pushes some closer to the reality that our system needs some overhaul before it is forced to rebuild from the ground up. People may be getting this out of there system or possibly this is the warning for what is to come if things don't change.

Thankfully we live in a time were it is pretty hard to hide the shit fuckery and humane acts that used to go on unnoticed when only the select few get to record and cherry pick the history as it unfolds.

I am not surprised this is happening one bit.
Unfortunately the random violence will be used against the message in hopes to keep the status quo. The violence makes the movement dismissive and pliable to favor the authoritarian spectrum.

Peacefull protesters > Rioting protesters


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