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InvisibleSwami
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No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission
    #2539453 - 04/08/04 01:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Not one piercing question about actions taken the day of the attacks (unless I missed something - did not read all transcripts).

I can think of a hundred or more that I would like answered. Am I the only curious one?


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InvisibleEvolving
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: Swami]
    #2539525 - 04/08/04 02:05 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

What were you expecting?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: Evolving]
    #2539543 - 04/08/04 02:10 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

A total cover-up.


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OfflineDoctorJ
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: Swami]
    #2539912 - 04/08/04 03:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

what i saw on television seemed to be a totally contrived show.

they put a very calm, composed Condoleeza Rice up there with a bunch of rabid democrats, who were going out of their way to exaggerate their emotional tone. Then end effect was that Rice looked competant and honest, and all those who had doubts looked like paranoid conspiracy theorists.

although the members of the panel had an extremely harsh tone to their questions, the questions themselves were not that pressing. Most of it seemed to be focused on the "early warnings" from August and September and basically how those warnings were classified in terms of urgency rooted in factual knowledge.

I didn't see any questions asked about the actual day of the attacks and why NORAD was on its ass the whole time.

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InvisibleSwami
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2539958 - 04/08/04 03:44 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't see any questions asked about the actual day of the attacks and why NORAD was on its ass the whole time.

That is because that type of question is relevant and SPECIFIC, rather than some vagueness about some past attitude which says little. *coughs whitewash*

Editor's note: DoctorJ and Swami on the same page. This must herald a new age of peace and understanding...


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InvisibleTrueBrode
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: Swami]
    #2539965 - 04/08/04 03:45 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I wanted them to investigate what actually went down on that morning, instead of having the verdict dictated by the FBI and CIA, who refuse to give any evidence for the conclusions they reached regarding the Hijackers and Al Qaeda being responsible. The report sent to congress was rubbish, partially classified, and incomplete. The FBI then put gag orders on all involved in the investigation, including the airlines workers on duty that morning.

This commission only came into existence because a few 911 widows were pestering the White House for an independent investigation into 911, and this was the result. Should we be happy we even got this? Hell no. The fact still remains that YOUR government is telling you who did what, without their being any independent investigation at all.

The White House fought this commission tooth and nail, and finally had to give in when they could not buy off the widows with reparations- like they had with all the other families. What the 911 compensations really did was say: "here, take this and leave us the fuck alone, you've been compensated.? Of course this commission was handpicked by the White House, with some sketchy members, including one that was highly ranked with one of the airlines involved in 911 (if I remember correctly).

Even after George Bush's handpicked commission chose what claims they would look into- completely ignoring anything about the morning of 911- George Bush STILL wouldn't play ball. He refused to testify. Yes, that's right, your forthcoming president who- pretty much- successfully thwarted an independent investigation into what happened on 911, AND picked his own Judge and jury, then refused to testify before the commission. But it appears George Bush undermined all the American people and press that- believe it or not- don't make decisions based on Fox News and White House press releases. The pressure grew for him to testify. So what, now, did your forthcoming president agree to? "I'll testify, but I'll only give one hour of my time for the 3,000 Americans that died that morning." Sound like a man willing to get to the bottom of things? But the pressure grew even more, mostly from the two people on the commission that hadn?t given into the nonsense of Bush?s antics. So he finally agreed to testify, in private, with Dick Cheney by his side! Yep, that?s right; he couldn?t even do it on his own.

What a country we live in, where your government gets to tell you who your enemy is without presenting any evidence -A country where no independent investigations are allowed, and anybody involved in the incident is FORBIDDEN from talking about it to the press -A country where the elected official gets to handpick his own judge and jury -A country where your highest elected official refuses to testify until he?s badgered into doing so on his own circumstances -A country where your president obliterates your constitution?s due process clause, but pleads executive privilege when it comes to explaining how 3000 Americans got murdered on his watch.

What a pitiful congress and electorate that is.

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Invisibleafoaf
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: TrueBrode]
    #2541389 - 04/08/04 09:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

someone give this guy a pulitzer.


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Anonymous

Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: Swami]
    #2541787 - 04/08/04 11:35 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous

Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: ]
    #2542148 - 04/09/04 01:46 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

way to miss the point.

i'm pretty sure he stated quite
clearly that he was disappointed
by the fact there was no questioning
of the administrations actions the
morning of 9-11.

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OfflineEchoVortex
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: TrueBrode]
    #2542178 - 04/09/04 02:08 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, what a contrast.

First we have TrueBrode's impassioned and informed indictment of the corrupt manner in which this Administration is coming to grips (or not) with one the great tragedies in our nation's history, and then, as if to provide comic relief, we have Mr. Mushrooms with a post whose sole purpose is to sling unprovoked invective at another poster--and it ends with a raspberry no less.

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Invisiblesir tripsalot
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: ]
    #2542185 - 04/09/04 02:12 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Oh ya, Hussein was caught. Didn't that end that whole terrorism thing?


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Anonymous

Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: EchoVortex]
    #2542256 - 04/09/04 02:42 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

he's nuttier than squirrel shit!!

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OfflineLearyfanS
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: ]
    #2542698 - 04/09/04 08:20 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

What did Richard Clarke lie about?




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InvisibleXlea321
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: EchoVortex]
    #2542752 - 04/09/04 08:35 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

as if to provide comic relief, we have Mr. Mushrooms with a post whose sole purpose is to sling unprovoked invective at another poster-

Looks like he's started stalking you Echo  :nut:

I had the same problem with him a while ago. If he keeps it up just have a word with the mods/admins. That usually calms it down for a while.

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InvisibleinfidelGOD
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Re: No "Real" questions asked by 9/11 Commission [Re: ]
    #2544205 - 04/09/04 04:27 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)


at what point did you become such an embarrasment?

oh right.

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