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F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute 2
#25441517 - 09/06/18 11:03 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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FARTS
I think that there is a fair and responsible solution to:
- Wage stagnation in the U.S
- Labor exploitation in the 3rd world
- Environmental degradation worldwide
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My proposal is a law requiring any company selling goods in the U.S. to comply with U.S. environmental and labor laws, regardless of where their product is manufactured.
Feel free to tell me why you do or don't think this is a good idea, but I really want this thread to be about how to flesh this idea out into a full fledged piece of legislation.
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: krypto2000]
#25443817 - 09/07/18 09:52 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: How would you enforce that? Do we have regulators installed in every country? That sounds like a beurocratic nightmare that would spur all kinds of corruption; new businesses have an even higher barrier of entry while established ones own the regulators and continue not following the laws. Does it apply to everyone we do business with? If not then why not just "sell" the company to a surrogate owner within the country and purchase the goods from them, effectively not changing a thing?
Yes, U.S. regulators installed at every factory. Make them pay for inspections. Yes, it would apply to anyone selling goods within the boundaries of the U.S. or it's territories. As for barriers to entry, tough titty, i say. It's no more of a barrier than any company in the U.S. has to overcome.
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: ballsalsa]
#25443853 - 09/07/18 10:00 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll start: Whereas it is recognized that greed and exploitation are not confined by borders, and it is recognized that labor interests worldwide cannot avoid exploitation without fair and uniform minimum standards for labor and environmental regulations, we propose that United States law provides a suitable baseline standard.
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: XUL]
#25444718 - 09/08/18 09:02 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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XUL said: Some companies have been bullied into safer factories via American boycotting.
But that is fickle and perilous.
Hell, it seems like most leftists don't even care about what's happening overseas -- as long America is clean and regulated.
Leftists don't seem to care about the Muslim invasion, factory pollution overseas, or American companies practicing slave labor overseas.
In the name of equality, let the Muslims do what they will in Europe. In the name of Global warming, regulate our country and pollute the poor countries.
 do you have anything to actually add to the discussion?
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: XUL]
#25445176 - 09/08/18 01:34 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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XUL said: I thought something like this existed already? Not sure.
Nope
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: christopera] 1
#28463617 - 09/09/23 06:32 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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He's probably still on stormfront. I don't remember his handle there but I've posted it here before. There was funny drama there when he was so over the top arguing that it's ok to hit women or something that the mods there basically silenced him because they thought he might be a commie plant sent to make them look bad
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Re: F.air A.nd R.esponsible T.rade S.tatute [Re: rxb]
#28464347 - 09/10/23 12:55 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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Naw, its in BBWs sig.
I do still think it's a good idea, though. Japan makes Chinese manufacturers keep a Japanese inspector on-site. It's not much different.
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