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Brf cakes first timer
    #25436582 - 09/05/18 02:29 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)



G.ts will be three weeks in on Friday
Been slow growth for a couple reasons I think

However I have more cakes only 3 days in already showing much faster growth than this batch of cake  that. More pics later


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Mustmyco]
    #25436640 - 09/05/18 03:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty low growth for 3 weeks. I’m assuming they stalled? They look dry as hell.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Nihilistic]
    #25436676 - 09/05/18 05:02 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of times stalling is due to improper moisture or bad gas exchange.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Nihilistic]
    #25436717 - 09/05/18 06:08 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I know :frown: I followed the two to the tee except I didn't use 1/4" drill bit, I used something smaller cause its all i had at the house perhaps I should have left my Verm a little more wet?

Do you think they needed more air and water ?
Or a little more moisture only


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: bishlap]
    #25436718 - 09/05/18 06:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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A lot of times stalling is due to improper moisture or bad gas exchange.






I know :frown: I followed the two to the tee except I didn't use 1/4" drill bit, I used something smaller cause its all i had at the house perhaps I should have left my Verm a little more wet?

Do you think they needed more air and water ?
Or a little more moisture only


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Mustmyco]
    #25437414 - 09/05/18 02:15 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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A lot of times stalling is due to improper moisture or bad gas exchange.






I know :frown: I followed the two to the tee except I didn't use 1/4" drill bit, I used something smaller cause its all i had at the house perhaps I should have left my Verm a little more wet?

Do you think they needed more air and water ?
Or a little more moisture only





What do you mean you didn’t use a 1/4 inch drill bit? If you followed a PF Tek guide then the drill is for making a SGFC not putting holes in the lid. You should’ve used a sterilized hammer and nail to puncture the lid.

To answer your question, they look dry as hell.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Nihilistic] * 1
    #25437431 - 09/05/18 02:23 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Mustmyco said:
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bishlap said:
A lot of times stalling is due to improper moisture or bad gas exchange.






I know :frown: I followed the two to the tee except I didn't use 1/4" drill bit, I used something smaller cause its all i had at the house perhaps I should have left my Verm a little more wet?

Do you think they needed more air and water ?
Or a little more moisture only





What do you mean you didn’t use a 1/4 inch drill bit? If you followed a PF Tek guide then the drill is for making a SGFC not putting holes in the lid. You should’ve used a sterilized hammer and nail to puncture the lid.

To answer your question, they look dry as hell.



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A sterilized hammer and nail?


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25437466 - 09/05/18 02:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Notice the sweat and creamy leading edge? Bacterial infection...


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25437468 - 09/05/18 02:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Nihilistic said:
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Mustmyco said:
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bishlap said:
A lot of times stalling is due to improper moisture or bad gas exchange.






I know :frown: I followed the two to the tee except I didn't use 1/4" drill bit, I used something smaller cause its all i had at the house perhaps I should have left my Verm a little more wet?

Do you think they needed more air and water ?
Or a little more moisture only





What do you mean you didn’t use a 1/4 inch drill bit? If you followed a PF Tek guide then the drill is for making a SGFC not putting holes in the lid. You should’ve used a sterilized hammer and nail to puncture the lid.

To answer your question, they look dry as hell.



:lolwut:
A sterilized hammer and nail?




I’m assuming he’s following PF Tek, but he said he didn’t use a 1/4” drill bit. At this stage in the Tek he shouldn’t have used it anyway. So I assume he meant he didn’t use it to put the inoculation holes in the lid, which isn’t how it’s done anyway. Every Pf Tek uses a hammer and nail for the inoculation sites.

I could just be misunderstanding him.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Nihilistic]
    #25437480 - 09/05/18 02:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

You don't need to sterilize a hammer & nail for making inoculation points. However you get the holes in there there's nothing sterile about prepping lids.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25437490 - 09/05/18 02:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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You don't need to sterilize a hammer & nail for making inoculation points. However you get the holes in there there's nothing sterile about prepping lids.




Hmm, every write up I’ve read of Pf Tek was adamant about sterilizing the hammer and nail when prepping the lids. I mean, it makes sense to not have to since you’re going to sterilize it with steam or a PC anyway. Never hurts to stay on the safe side though ig.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Nihilistic]
    #25437509 - 09/05/18 03:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

How would you possibly sterilize a hammer and nail? Run it though a PC, open it in a SAB and pound away?

It can be done on a garage floor with a hammer, nail, and a 2x4. Prep like lids are done far before anything is kept sterile.


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #25437528 - 09/05/18 03:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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How would you possibly sterilize a hammer and nail? Run it though a PC, open it in a SAB and pound away?




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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #25437641 - 09/05/18 03:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to  see one (just one) pf tek that instructs to sterilize hammer and nail... gotta link?


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25437850 - 09/05/18 05:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Notice the sweat and creamy leading edge? Bacterial infection...




Oh dang on which picture?
And should I toss it or is it just slowing my growth?


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Mustmyco]
    #25437940 - 09/05/18 06:07 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Your right everyone I mispoke..it was late lol
Honestly what I meant I didn't use a hammer I used a small drill bit of relative size to a nail
(Not a 1/4" though)

From what I've gather my cakes need more moisture which would tell me the holes might be a little to big or my Verm could be a little more wet

And I may have a bacterial infection? Can I use h202 solution or is it trash?


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Mustmyco]
    #25437995 - 09/05/18 06:33 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty much them all: first picture you'll see where the growth goes clear and then bright white; the uncolonized portion is most certainly bacterial... second photo, round growth that looks dull, may even be mold... Similar issues in the other photos... you could (and should, for learning purposes)  keep eyes, but my guess is they'll stall... if they're indeed dry, the sweating is a bad sign... if more colonizes  (say 70%) and it stalls, you can birth it, remove the uncolonized portion and fruit it as is... :goodluck:


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25438089 - 09/05/18 07:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I do not see any contamination to be quite honest they look like they are not moist enough and if you notice they seem to stall at the top and bottom I would guess that you ran  your pressure cooker too hot and or too long and it resulted in excess drying.

Don't try to add water, I would just put them in a corner and start some more jars.
They should finish out just take longer, and if im wrong and they are contaminated it will become more evident .


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25438231 - 09/05/18 08:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Okay cool thank you very much! Helps me out a lot..

What does sweating usually mean?
I noticed on the other cakes that I would find a sweaty pocket right before mold struck but these a week to have been creating moisture for over a week now ever since I put them inside of a grow tent


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Re: Brf cakes first timer [Re: bishlap]
    #25438244 - 09/05/18 08:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Sweet yeah I didn't think they were un healthy
But there has been so many different opinions..! :tongue:
Lol overall consensus is they are to dry I believe I did pressure cook them for too long

Already got another like of jars with much better progress it's seems so ill just keep on waiting for my first ones haha

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