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Offlineprimal440
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Instead of Canning Jars...
    #2543463 - 04/09/04 02:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wanto to use normal glass (you know those where you put juice on and drink) instead of canning jars because they're nto available where I am... How do I seal the glasses for sterilization and inoculation? Thabks in advance, bye...


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Invisiblesnatchcakes
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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: primal440]
    #2543508 - 04/09/04 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

just get some heavy duty foil(dont get cheap get the best)and cut some squares.fill th eglasses just like normal,with the verm barrier ect.cover with one square,and fold it down tight,then what i did was put 2 wide rubber bands i had around the jar holding the foil down.Then take another square and cover the first one and smooth that down on the sides.just make sure its tight and the water level isnt too high.Then you just remove the top square to innoculate and then place back on looser.


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2543526 - 04/09/04 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thaks a lot, now i have some more questions:
should i sterilize the verm?
do i make the same procedure as with the ramsey seal? I mean I put a layer of A Tin Foil, Then verm, then more Foil and then i make the holes with the syringe itself???' thanks.


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: primal440]
    #2543561 - 04/09/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

no need for the seal,just fill the glasses about 2/3 of the way up with the substrate,then fill the rest of the way with verm(no need to steralize because thats what you are about to do).Then cover with 1 square of foil,fasten down,then another and smooth down(like i described above).Then after they are done you let them cool overnight(just to be safe) and remove the top piece of foil.you steralize the needle with a flame and/or alchahol and push through the foil in four spots around the edge with the needle tip towards the glass.Then you place the top layer of foil back on and smooth it down,and incubate just like normal jars.


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2543619 - 04/09/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well thanks again, now one last question 8kind of, actually its for me to feel secure)... I cant let it stand overnight, im leaving today at night and its 3:20. just started to sterilize the rye, si i have to do everything today, I guess one hour in ice will do good enough for the glasses to cool off... i may have to ask somebody to shake my jars, when should that person do it? thanks again and again and again :wink:


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: primal440]
    #2543630 - 04/09/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

by the way its friday and im coming home in sunday...


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: primal440]
    #2543636 - 04/09/04 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

first off if your doing rye you dont add the verm,i thought you were using the pf method with brown rice flour and vermiculite.if you are doing rye you have to use a pressure cooker,you cannot just use a pot.and you dont shake untill after they are partially colonized,germination takes 3 days or so ,so no need for any shaking yet.
second DONT cool them in ice water,it will crack the glasses.and even when they feel cool they may be very warm inside,qnd will kill your spores.at least wairt 3 or 4 hours.
third,man i dont mind helping but i think you better read up a little more and try when you get back,that way you dont just waste all your stuff. you are very confused on some issues.
And im not sure about rye in drinking glasses,never done that,i used 1/2 pint jars with pollyfill lids.


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Re: Instead of Canning Jars... [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2543932 - 04/09/04 04:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've done popcorn in drinking glasses with no problems whatsoever.

I usually do them in large jars with polyfill lids, but when I have extra corn I just put them in my pf jar drinking glasses and sterilize them along with the jars.

They colonize perfectly, and since they finish faster than the jars, I can get my first casing incubating before I even start birthing the jars.


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