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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #25428326 - 09/01/18 11:50 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

should i be adding to this log? with steps and updates? or are you just documenting your work with these cultures? Im running 3 different cultures of the tidalwave variant side by side as a comparative. One from spore, one from an isolated culture and the two cultures from the "blobs".


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25617861 - 11/16/18 03:53 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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That's a hell of a blob jake. What that sucker weigh?



The mutant pictured weighed almost 1000g wet. The initial trip reports have all been positive. People are indicating 1g feels equal to 2.5 of regular P. cubensis.
There is a team of folks working on this project actually. There is lc. The mutant is consistent and produces fins that form together making the fruit body. We have taken swabs from tissue and are trying to find gill tissue in all the subsequent fruits and will hope to stabilize it. Oh and it has been renamed. **********ENIGMA*********** none of us liked the name and did not want to be connected to Tidal Wave or its origins.


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25617868 - 11/16/18 04:03 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Reminds me a bit of this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25285598

I wonder if its a pinning initiation error. Pins are just specialized mycelium. These blobs look like extremely dense formations of mycelium that are not pins.

When i examined my blob thing from the above thread it was really just a bunch of strands of rhizomorphic mycelium jam packed together.



They appear as pins that form all across the substrate and then continue to grow together as it matures.



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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: shroompy]
    #25617907 - 11/16/18 05:13 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Enigma.
Sounds cooler! Thanks for the info and great pictures. I've observed pins that start alone and merge later on but nothing in that way. This is indeed a crazy MF!



Shit it's been a trip. It does drink lots of water. The bigger fruits bruise when misted eventually contaminate and force harvest. The group feels like it would keep growing until all resources have been depleted.I have two dubs and two mycobags going with varying sub to spawn ratios. It really just doesn't matter. It produces the same behaviors and mutations every time.

Unicorn mycobag type A with an L  micron filter. 1st bag 1:2 spawn to sub 2nd 1:1



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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: elPeligroso 5150]
    #25619027 - 11/16/18 02:10 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Just some pics from the individual who initially isolated the culture that produce this genetic strain.


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    #25619033 - 11/16/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: elPeligroso 5150]
    #25619127 - 11/16/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)




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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #25619905 - 11/16/18 10:15 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

We are not trying to hide its origin at all. We would just rather distance ourselves from the brand and the person. The mycobag  was used as a fruiting chamber and FAE is controlled with varying techniques to monitor the growth with different levels of FAE as it matures. Currently they are both semi-restricted to the FAE allowed through the filter. 

Question for you. You do realize that SWIM stands for "someone who is me" right? How far has your cultures grown my man? Have you been able to fruit any yet? Would love to see some more Enigma. As the trip reports keep coming in it would seem pretty consistent, although completely subjective, that it is taking the PE characteristic in regards to potency at least.


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: Germs] * 2
    #25620056 - 11/17/18 02:14 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Appreciate the feedback. thank you. Sorry if my understanding of the word SWIM was misunderstood in this forum as it is the only way I've ever heard it used and refers to the individual using it. That is dated though and I understand. As far as the name goes. Of course OP can call his work what ever he likes as it is his work. The original work that produced the mutation was not my own. So out of respect for that individual I will refer to our work as it is now been named. No offense to OP or this forum or you what so ever. More respect for the individual work of the individual responsible is all. Would also love to get this to some one to put under the scope as well, as the mycelium displays two very different characteristics while colonizing simultaneously. I will upload the pic. I'm new to the site and hope I'm not out of bounds or out of place and hope to become a contributing member of the community. Mush Luv!


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: shroompy]
    #25620093 - 11/17/18 03:08 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

No. The person who isolated the culture initially sent a culture to the individual who grew it out and got the mutation. From agar. That mutant was cloned and the subsequent agar cultures were handed out to an initial few folks, which I am one. Subsequent agar cultures from the same original culture were handed out to a few more like OP. The individual who grew the first mutant from the culture is fine and likes the name Enigma. The initial group including the original individual responsible for the isolation are all in agreement about the name. From the original culture LC is being made. As all the cultures from all the other mutant fruits are consistently producing the same characteristics and mutation. We have only really experimented with fruiting chambers and ratios in hopes of identifying gill tissues to swab for spores.


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: CHOOS]
    #25620251 - 11/17/18 06:31 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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mr.nelsonmtman said:in hopes of identifying gill tissues to swab for spores.




Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!



It is definitely our focus. Hopefully one of them will mutate differently just enough. Still swabbing anything that even looks like it could.


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: shroompy]
    #25620275 - 11/17/18 06:42 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks mr.nelsonmtman! Not it all seems clearer to me :smile:



Happy to provide clarity at any time. :grin::mushroom2::thumbup:


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: ghiajake]
    #25624152 - 11/18/18 09:11 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Question for you. You do realize that SWIM stands for "someone who is me" right? How far has your cultures grown my man? Have you been able to fruit any yet? Would love to see some more Enigma.




As already answered, SWIM means "Someone who isn't me", and also FOAF is "Friend of a friend". Why would anyone refer to themselves as "Someone who is me"? Maybe this misunderstanding about what SWIM means is why y'all thought I was trying to "take credit" for the substrain... As to "have I fruited it yet?", all pics are and will be updated in the OP.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swim
Here read this definition of SWIM. It will shed some light on this shade being cast.

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Ok,
so for my unterstanding: This Tidal Waves Mutant has this one Father, that distributed the LC.

mr. nelsonmtman et al. went and growed some of that which looks beautifully crazy on the pictures and now call it Enigma

ghiajake (OP) has its kickass martha with monochromatic light (awsome paper by the way). He calls the blob Brainiac.

What does this guy who got the mutation to begin with wants to call his baby? or doesnt care?





Shroompy, I was one of a handful of people to be originally gifted the culture, then was kicked out of their cliquey group because they thought I was trying to steal the credit for an accidental mutation. This was addressed in this thread already. Anyone growing it can call it whatever they want, it's whoever stablizes it by getting spore production that gets to give it it's final name. That hasn't happened yet...



Yet some more misinformation here. You were secondary in the gifting of the culture. Never did you have any claim or right to even discuss the name or fight any pending name change etc. You were a participant that did not display character traits that we found beneficial to the team working to stabilize the culture. Which is already proving to be pretty stable from culture. As it consistently behaves the same way from every generation a culture has been fruited. Our goal now is to find spores. Like PE it is a challenge and lots of swabbing has occurred. Fingers crossed we find a viable means and source to recreate from MS to Stabilize.
From your last statement it is pretty clear what your intention is and has always been. Ego is not your amigo my man. This is why you were kicked out of the group in the first place. We never feared you would stabilize it through your own efforts. We did not want to be a part of someone who sole interest seemed to be showboating and grandstanding. MushLuv brother. Hope that clears up the reasoning for you my man.


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Re: Tidalwave Blob Thread [Re: Dabadoodledoo710] * 1
    #25637392 - 11/25/18 01:24 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Just harvested the first of my efforts. Met BE and can confirm potency as early reports indicated.


306.06g wet from 1qt spawn and 1.5qts of sub. 29.7g dry.


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Re: Ghia's Tidalwave Blob Thread (aka Brainiac) [Re: Solipsis]
    #25643357 - 11/27/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Cool freshening up on that color spectrum info as I didn't know about the pileus formation triggering..
Gonna have to check how bad it actually is to have only blue UV-ey LED like i have.

Am definitely interested in this blob unit as like you I love the weird stuff (:

It seems though like stabilizing would involve not finding viable spores in there just one time, right? I mean it's a start though, it's one step in the process afaik.
I'm not super optimistic since it would seem like going to spores would inherently take you to a direction of the mutation reverting, but hey i am not that knowledgeable and it's that much bigger of an achievement if someone could pull of stabilizing this.

So it is confusing that someone suggests it was already pretty stabilized while at the same time it's unclear whether spores can be harvested without tissue, to ensure that you aren't just cloning it.
But please clarify if that's wrong.



Most of time when cloning a fruit you are merely narrowing the gene pool in which it will pull from. This is the reason cloning mutations hardly ever repeats from clone. As there is still enough genetics left to pull from. This mutation however continues to repeat in all attempts from the cloned culture. This is why I say its semi stable. Meaning the genetic strain is almost certainly a monoculture. This one strain being this mutation that occurs to the fruiting bodies. So in theory if we can make it produce spores all the MS pool will have been eliminated already. Making it possible to recreate from spore and legal to share with the world.


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Re: Ghia's Tidalwave Blob Thread (aka Brainiac) [Re: Munchauzen] * 1
    #27087617 - 12/13/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Glad too see she is making her rounds and finding capable hands! Good looking fruits!


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