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velho


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Conocybe velutipes / Finland? Calling for Conocybe experts!
#25420629 - 08/29/18 02:59 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi! Found these tiny Conocybe species on my front lawn this morning. They kinda match macroscopically some of the assumed Conocybe velutipes photos online. I know it's a tough genus and not too much information about it online, but maybe someone in here has some insights. Conocybe velutipes was previously "known" as Conocybe kuehneriana, but some sources online say that they're different species and I found C. kuehneriana mentioned to be Argentinian species or something like that. Sources on the internet - aswell shroomery - mentions Conocybe kuehneriana to be psychoactive, but since the taxa was incorrect, is this the case with Conocybe velutipes? Online sources say they grow in Finland.

These were really tiny, cap 1cm and stem 4-5cm long. About the size of Pholiotina cyanopus. If looking in a right angle and lighting, they seem to have really tiny fibrils on the cap, like it's a bit "hairy". No strong odor. Spore print in progress.
Unfortunately I don't have access to microscopy at the moment and my skills wouldn't take me far anyhow, but if these look interesting and possible contender for Conocybe velutipes (and if they're actually thought to be psychoactive), I can send dry specimens to someone who's skilled with Conocybe species.
Edited by velho (08/29/18 09:41 AM)
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Anglerfish
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Re: Conocybe velutipes / Finland? Calling for Conocybe experts! [Re: velho]
#25420920 - 08/29/18 08:42 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Identifying Conocybe spp. from macroscopic characters usually ends up with a "maybe" in front. The macroscopic description of C. velutipes (Funga Nordica) reads:
"Cap 12-24 mm, hemispherical to convex or bell-shaped, dark ochraceous brown to sordid brown, hygrophanous, translucently stri- ate in outer half; gills medium spaced; stem 30-90 x 0.5-1.5 mm, cylindrical with a slightly widened base, whitish, becoming brownish from base.
Among leaf- or needle litter, on soil, in gardens and grassland; spring to autumn; occasional in temp., occasional in hemib.- arc./alp."
It kind of fits the appearance of your find, but then again a lot of Conocybe species look very similar. So, yes, maybe C. velutipes.
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velho


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Re: Conocybe velutipes / Finland? Calling for Conocybe experts! [Re: Anglerfish]
#25421031 - 08/29/18 09:34 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, it's a lot of maybe when it comes to Conocybe since there isn't too much information and observations, not to forget the actual photos. I've been eyeballing a lot of Conocybe/Pholiotina species a last couple of years and comparing them side by side, smelling them and making observations of the differences. Also been googling a lot of the supposed images etc. These somehow struck me the same way when I first time found Pholiotina cyanopus and I haven't found this Conocybe species before. But yea, macroscopic descriptions can fit with so many different species and many Conocybe species look so similiar, althought these last few years observing them has taught me a lot and it has been a bit easier to tell them apart.
Maybe if there's someone who has been working with Conocybe species is willing to take a closer look. Would be kinda nice to solve the mystery about this species since they're said to be psychoactive. Thanks Anglerfish!
Edited by velho (08/29/18 09:43 AM)
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