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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu]
    #25492655 - 09/27/18 10:03 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Also I've done it as frequently as everyday for a month with big doses mixed in and no tolerance noticable.

Also you don't need any studies...

You rely too much on others if you do.

Everyone is different for starters, we all need something different and at different times.

There is no "do it this way and your depression is cured"

You need to eat the mushrooms and listen ymto yourself.

Do what you feel is right, when you feel it is right. Trust yourself and the mushrooms. Just eat them and listen.

Also lemon tek is grinding your cubes and then squeezing fresh lemon juice on top and storing for 15 min then downing.

I wouldn't recommend it.

I did it back when I couldn't get mushrooms when I wanted and was trying to get the most bang from what I had.

Imo there's no reason to do it besides of you have less than your desired dose and want to try to intensify it.

But then imo tea is better for that anyway




How would lemon juice intensity this?  Doesnt sound logical

Also - what is the micro dosage for wet mushrooms?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25493261 - 09/27/18 02:36 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I would recommend you dry before microdosing.

The lemon breaks down the mushrooms before it enters your stomach so your stomach doesn't have as much work to do.

Some say it converts psilocin to pscilocybin or the other way around, idr.

Ime it does intensify it, I just don't like it myself


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu]
    #25494086 - 09/27/18 08:17 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

+++ This post is excellent material. Something i have been researching for a long time, but always skeptical about who i listen too... But so many people sharing the same positive results is inspiring !


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: motifaded]
    #25494104 - 09/27/18 08:24 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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+++ This post is excellent material. Something i have been researching for a long time, but always skeptical about who i listen too... But so many people sharing the same positive results is inspiring !





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Same here ... the response has been amazing


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu]
    #25494842 - 09/28/18 04:49 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I would recommend you dry before microdosing.

The lemon breaks down the mushrooms before it enters your stomach so your stomach doesn't have as much work to do.

Some say it converts psilocin to pscilocybin or the other way around, idr.

Ime it does intensify it, I just don't like it myself




I agree about drying. I guess you could microdose with fresh, but it's so much more convenient to dry them, grind them into a fine powder, then put the powder into capsules. Furthermore, if you dry it and powder it, your active dosage is going to be more consistent.

I'm not sure there's what you'd call settled science on what the lemon does, but I will tell you it intensifies it.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25494850 - 09/28/18 04:59 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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For me the lion's mane has been worth it. I can't quantify it, but I perceive that my thoughts are generally clearer and my brain seems to be a little quicker -- both welcome things in a brain that has been abused by depression, migraines, and sleep apnea!

When I take a serious dose, it's all at once. On my very first trip, I did part lemon tekked and ate the rest over a period of just a few minutes. The rest of the times have been all at once (lemon tekked, chugged).





What are your lion doses and frequency?

I had a sleep disorder that was undiagnosed for years and i am still adjusting to "normal" sleep cycles but i believe that chronic isses with sleep quality over years and years for sure affected my neurotransmitters and overall mood

also - whats lemon tekk?




I'm dosing 500mg 8:1 extract once daily. Recommended (from that particular supplier, at least) 2 capsules per day. I've not done 2 capsules in the morning, but I have done one in the morning and one before bed. My experience wasn't great with that regimen because my sleep was even worse than normal. I also struggle to get good sleep, so that was the primary reason I switched to once per day.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: fluorescent]
    #25497758 - 09/29/18 10:09 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I would recommend you dry before microdosing.

The lemon breaks down the mushrooms before it enters your stomach so your stomach doesn't have as much work to do.

Some say it converts psilocin to pscilocybin or the other way around, idr.

Ime it does intensify it, I just don't like it myself




I agree about drying. I guess you could microdose with fresh, but it's so much more convenient to dry them, grind them into a fine powder, then put the powder into capsules. Furthermore, if you dry it and powder it, your active dosage is going to be more consistent.

I'm not sure there's what you'd call settled science on what the lemon does, but I will tell you it intensifies it.




I figured this to be the case.  Thank you


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25497780 - 09/29/18 10:19 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

The science is that it breaks down the mushrooms like I said so your stomach doesn't have to.

Lemons are acidic. They begin to break down the mushrooms same way your stomach does and this means you don't habe to and it's already broken down when you ingest it, meaning it enters your system much quicker and more st once, meaning it feels more intense .....

Similar to what tea does


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #25498843 - 09/29/18 06:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Lemons are acidic. They begin to break down the mushrooms same way your stomach does...




That reminds me of something that happened a couple weeks ago.  I take niacin as a supplement.  And as anyone who has taken niacin knows, it can make your skin flush and get itchy.  Normally, I have no problem ignoring the itchiness and don't scratch.  But that one day, I had a large glass of orange juice with my niacin and within minutes, the itchiness was so bad I couldn't stand it.  Fortunately, I was alone at home. I was scratching hard everywhere and could not get relief for a good half hour.  Clearly the acid from the orange juice caused the niacin to absorb much faster.  It was a few weeks ago and I am still covered with scratches.  Acids will definitely make some things break down and absorb faster!


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: BoVine]
    #25547633 - 10/18/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Fantastic thread!  I'm sorry to see it has died out since longer term results would be great to hear.  Can the prior participants give us updates on whether this is still working for them?  I would also be very curious whether anyone has transitioned to microdosing after just a few day off antidepressants or ativan.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25548047 - 10/18/18 05:33 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Fantastic thread!  I'm sorry to see it has died out since longer term results would be great to hear.  Can the prior participants give us updates on whether this is still working for them?  I would also be very curious whether anyone has transitioned to microdosing after just a few day off antidepressants or Ativan.




Just my 2 cents but i would assume the transition off of Ativan would be fairly quick since its  a short-acting drug in terms of half life?  Although i will say i had a family member that was put on Klonopin daily and took it for 7 years and then had another physician take them off of it (cold turkey .. BRILLIANT) and it caused a huge crash with her mentally - it was tough to see how bad taking a benzo long term can be for you ... i have experienced this as well but i took xanax as prescribe for about three days straight then said "eff this i feel like a zombie" and the next few days after my baseline for anxiety had been heightening by the drug .. so i was always on edge (even though that state lasted only for a few days it was a shitty edgy feeling) ...

Kind of off topic to your post but kinda not ...  Anyway I agree with you and would like to hear more from others.  I think its really great to see all the feedback and how some have tried macro vs micro and the benefits they have gained from each.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25548774 - 10/18/18 10:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I highly recommend the youtube videoby James Fedimen that someone referenced earlier.  Exactly what is being discussed here but with results from a study.  Haven't finished yet but have not heard a single negative which seems to be the case with posts here as well.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25549845 - 10/19/18 10:27 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I highly recommend the youtube videoby James Fedimen that someone referenced earlier.  Exactly what is being discussed here but with results from a study.  Haven't finished yet but have not heard a single negative which seems to be the case with posts here as well.





Good to know.  I must have missed the reference to him earlier but will look for him today on youtube.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25555295 - 10/21/18 11:44 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I highly recommend the youtube videoby James Fedimen that someone referenced earlier.  Exactly what is being discussed here but with results from a study.  Haven't finished yet but have not heard a single negative which seems to be the case with posts here as well.




tuned into a few podcasts hes on on Youtube :thumbup:


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu]
    #26708228 - 05/31/20 12:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would recommend you dry before microdosing.

The lemon breaks down the mushrooms before it enters your stomach so your stomach doesn't have as much work to do.

Some say it converts psilocin to pscilocybin or the other way around, idr.

Ime it does intensify it, I just don't like it myself




Find this interesting considering I've used orange juice to bring me back to "normal" 4 many years.

Lemon brings u up
Orange down??

Both citrus?! Go figure x


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    #26708249 - 05/31/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would recommend you dry before microdosing.

The lemon breaks down the mushrooms before it enters your stomach so your stomach doesn't have as much work to do.

Some say it converts psilocin to pscilocybin or the other way around, idr.

Ime it does intensify it, I just don't like it myself




Find this interesting considering I've used orange juice to bring me back to "normal" 4 many years.

Lemon brings u up
Orange down??

Both citrus?! Go figure x



I’ve stopped using l3mon recently because of a spate of intense unenjoyble trips. But when the going was good, once had run out of lemon juice so used orange juice instead in the tea; I still tripped as per with lemon juice, but the come up was completely different to the come up with orange. Can’t explain it any other way than it was different. But I still “come up”, big time.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26709743 - 05/31/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Woah crazy

When i first started with mushrooms i had nothing but fabulous trips

Some very powerful and intense but always magical

One day i smoked some dmt and was never the same

Had my first bad and difficult ezperience then had a bad one with mushrooms after that and then ever since mushrooms can be a bit hit or miss on how i feel afterward

No going back though eh

Kinda miss the whole thing where every trip on mushrooms or lsd was pure heaven ...


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