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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: cognitivebias]
    #25431162 - 09/02/18 05:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

In my honest opinion you can get more ling term results from larger doses.

I micro dosed for a few months about 4-5 years ago and I felt great, excess energy I was very social and felt like a ninja all day but as soon as I stopped so did the positive effects, so in essence to me it just felt like I was taking some natural antidepressant but like Zoloft has never got rid of anyone's depression it's used to treat a symptom.
That's what micro dosing felt like after the fact.

You can never completely rid yourself of depression, everyone gets sad and everyone let's some things bother them more than they should.
It's the crippling depression and anxiety that keep you from doing things that should not bring depression or anxiety.
For that I feel larger doses are far more effective.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: bishlap]
    #25431238 - 09/02/18 05:58 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I have severe depression and have taken shrooms everyday many times. microdosing worked to lift my mood when I was relatively new to the drug however microdosing doesnt work anymore even at zero tolerance. I have to have at least 3 grams. I am very physically able and creative on shrooms however the difficulty lies in becoming very childlike and at the same time totally fearless. If we had a free loving society that wouldnt be an issue but as it stands the world is a danger to me regardless of the fact that I am in no way a danger to it.:sad:


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Love_spirit]
    #25431501 - 09/02/18 08:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Mushies from My experience have quite the tolerance loss compared to LSD.

Microdosing on LSD 2 -3 days in a row is always possible.
But mcirodosing psilocybin mushrooms 2 -3 days in a row,
now this is simply impossible and a waste of precious, sacred product.

Administering approximately 0.3 - 0.4 grams of psilocybin, with no tolerance will absolutely work. But after the come down, administering another 0.4 gram dose will barely bring back the effects. If One waits 2-3 days, the psilocybin's half life will regain Itself and One will get Their microdosing effects back. Be weary though, taking consecutive doses of psilocybin after coming down, One may exhibit strong - heavy hang over like effects. The molecules simply won't let You use enough of Your own brain chemistry to get the desired effects.

Since psilocybe mushies are notorious for this tolerance loss.
It is suggested that microdosing LSD may potentially be a lot safer and efficient.
At VERY, and I mean VERY low doses.

Happy tripping and microdosing Everyone.

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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25432305 - 09/03/18 06:49 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

So do ya think a large dose would treat depression symptoms just as good or better than micro dossing??

Lik in a depressed state feeling shit as shit can be, I'm sour a lot of people here have experience with depression, would u still at a low point ingest 4 to 5 grams of shrooms and actually have a magical trip? I couldn't build the courage even dow it would be some way to break that feeling.

Very interesting posts thanks for sharing dudes.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25432348 - 09/03/18 07:31 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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So do ya think a large dose would treat depression symptoms just as good or better than micro dossing??

Lik in a depressed state feeling shit as shit can be, I'm sour a lot of people here have experience with depression, would u still at a low point ingest 4 to 5 grams of shrooms and actually have a magical trip? I couldn't build the courage even dow it would be some way to break that feeling.

Very interesting posts thanks for sharing dudes.




I believe microdosing would work better.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores] * 1
    #25432422 - 09/03/18 08:19 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr.spores said:
So do ya think a large dose would treat depression symptoms just as good or better than micro dossing??

Lik in a depressed state feeling shit as shit can be, I'm sour a lot of people here have experience with depression, would u still at a low point ingest 4 to 5 grams of shrooms and actually have a magical trip? I couldn't build the courage even dow it would be some way to break that feeling.

Very interesting posts thanks for sharing dudes.



Here's my somewhat in-depth account of treating myself using psilocybin:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25157269

Everyone's different, some may benefit more from micro doses, some from large doses. Some people might benefit more from a "bad" trip than a good one.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25432540 - 09/03/18 09:26 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

For you guys who have been on anti-depressants, have you done micro dosing while still on or within a day or two?  I have mild depression at most but would have a hard time getting off the 10 mg celexa and mg ativan that I take daily.  So how do you get off them to the point where you can do the microdosing?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25432549 - 09/03/18 09:29 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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For you guys who have been on anti-depressants, have you done micro dosing while still on or within a day or two?  I have mild depression at most but would have a hard time getting off the 10 mg celexa and mg ativan that I take daily.  So how do you get off them to the point where you can do the microdosing?




I am not a doctor nor a medical professional, but I do know James Fadiman says that so far he only recommends that people on lithum carbonate not microdose.
His talks can be found on youtube and he has a website as well that may offer you further information or clarification on that specific question.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25432579 - 09/03/18 09:43 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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feevers said:
Quote:

Mr.spores said:
So do ya think a large dose would treat depression symptoms just as good or better than micro dossing??

Lik in a depressed state feeling shit as shit can be, I'm sour a lot of people here have experience with depression, would u still at a low point ingest 4 to 5 grams of shrooms and actually have a magical trip? I couldn't build the courage even dow it would be some way to break that feeling.

Very interesting posts thanks for sharing dudes.



Here's my somewhat in-depth account of treating myself using psilocybin:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25157269

Everyone's different, some may benefit more from micro doses, some from large doses. Some people might benefit more from a "bad" trip than a good one.






Thanks for sharing

Appreciate all the responses


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25432851 - 09/03/18 11:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Some say you get no effects from shrooms if on SSRIs or ativan (anti-anxiety).  Is that true for people here who have tried it?  How long have you been off SSRIs before shrooms worked?  Is there a risk of bad effects if you take shrooms while still on SSRIs?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25432875 - 09/03/18 12:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Some say you get no effects from shrooms if on SSRIs or ativan (anti-anxiety).  Is that true for people here who have tried it?  How long have you been off SSRIs before shrooms worked?  Is there a risk of bad effects if you take shrooms while still on SSRIs?




From the experiences I have seen people share here, if the medications did impact their overall experience or lack thereof, it took a few months to regain perceivable effects.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: gizmodo]
    #25432938 - 09/03/18 12:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Shrrrooms said:
Some say you get no effects from shrooms if on SSRIs or ativan (anti-anxiety).  Is that true for people here who have tried it?  How long have you been off SSRIs before shrooms worked?  Is there a risk of bad effects if you take shrooms while still on SSRIs?




From the experiences I have seen people share here, if the medications did impact their overall experience or lack thereof, it took a few months to regain perceivable effects.




You are saying a few moths off SSRIs before you get effects?  It would seem very strange that you would not get effects once they were out of your system.  After 4 days, only a small
amount would remain.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Shrrrooms]
    #25432941 - 09/03/18 12:46 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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gizmodo said:
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Shrrrooms said:
Some say you get no effects from shrooms if on SSRIs or ativan (anti-anxiety).  Is that true for people here who have tried it?  How long have you been off SSRIs before shrooms worked?  Is there a risk of bad effects if you take shrooms while still on SSRIs?




From the experiences I have seen people share here, if the medications did impact their overall experience or lack thereof, it took a few months to regain perceivable effects.




You are saying a few moths off SSRIs before you get effects?  It would seem very strange that you would not get effects once they were out of your system.  After 4 days, only a small
amount would remain.




Not me saying specifically, no. I have although seen people report that, yes.
If this is true, I imagine it is because of the potential neurological components that the medications have effects on.
Probably based on how long you have taken whatever it is and at what dose, IF that statement holds true to you specifically which you wouldn't know until you tried.
All that being said though even if it did the reasons behind why or why for how long reside in the realm of spoopy science we don't know... well you and I.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: gizmodo]
    #25433743 - 09/03/18 07:00 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25433753 - 09/03/18 07:03 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well... I mean unless you can synthesize LSD in your room?

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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq] * 1
    #25433795 - 09/03/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.




I've taken gargantuan amounts of LSD before.  Mushrooms are way scarier.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25434108 - 09/03/18 10:18 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.




I've heard some don't like the chemical feeling it gives you.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Apocalyptic]
    #25434460 - 09/04/18 07:12 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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heatlessbbq said:
I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.




I've heard some don't like the chemical feeling it gives you.



What a pity.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25437991 - 09/05/18 04:32 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

This was a cool thread to read but it left me even more confused.  I guess I am going to give it a try for myself.  If I am micro dosing during the work week II wouldn’t be able to have a 5 gram trip on the weekend, correct?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: audiosnipez]
    #25438106 - 09/05/18 05:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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This was a cool thread to read but it left me even more confused.  I guess I am going to give it a try for myself.  If I am micro dosing during the work week II wouldn’t be able to have a 5 gram trip on the weekend, correct?




You would be able to trip on the weekend.


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