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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California] * 1
    #25424452 - 08/30/18 05:20 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I've been microdosing for three weeks now for that very reason (among others).  Incredibly enough, it's actually working.

I'm sharper.  I'm more present, mindful.  I'm great in conversations again.  My creativity is on fire right now.  My mood is WAY better.  That's probably the biggest thing.  I feel open, and not irritable af all the time.  I'm fucking LAUGHING again!  I feel amazing!

I'm eating well.  My appetite has completely stabilized.  I'm working out again.  I'm cleaning everything.  And it's not like I'm forcing myself to do it.  I'm just... doing it.  It's the craziest thing, like everything is falling into place.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25426738 - 08/31/18 05:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Mr.spores said:
Sounds great man I'm happy for you. What mushroom are u micro dossing? And how frequently every day or 2 3 times a week?




B+ cubensis currently, although I am interested in experimenting with Panaeolus cyansescens.  I've read reports of even greater results with those.

5 days on, 2 days off.  Dose range of .3 to .7 dried grams.

Keep in mind, however, it's only been three weeks.  I'm still testing the waters, so to speak.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25428270 - 09/01/18 11:18 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

For now, I'm taking it in the morning.  And you are right about feeling weird.  There have been a few mornings, after dosing, where I feel uncomfortable, actually.  It's not terrible, but it does suck a little.  It's nothing trippy or psychedelic, just a weird, uncomfortable feeling.  I don't know whether or not this is a typical symptom of low doses, or if it's me.  I suspect it's me and the headspace I'm in on those mornings.  To combat it, I've been taking the microdoses with food.  It seems to help.  Then I just try to keep myself busy.

It's not the worst thing, though, and it's only been a few times.  It's absolutely still worth it.  I'm reminded of something Tim Ferriss always says: "There's no such thing as a biological free lunch."  You can't expect a perfect physiological solution to your every problem, and certainly not without possibly affecting some other shit.  You take the good with the bad, and it's not even really bad.

And as far as the cyanescens goes, it's because of the other compounds involved--not the potency.  But Idk.  I won't talk out of my ass on this one.  I'm still looking into it.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25428467 - 09/01/18 01:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I mean, did even you read my posts?

Well, thanks anyway Dr. Drew, you presumptuous douche.  Go fuck yourself.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428498 - 09/01/18 01:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I mean, why do you think they have antidepressants in the first place, you retard?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428499 - 09/01/18 01:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Think about what you actually said.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25428527 - 09/01/18 01:39 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

It irritates me because people love to drop in threads or Tweets or whatever, and sling dick like they're trying to teach you something.  It's pretentious, self-important bullshit.

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feevers said:Ingesting a chemical will not do that for you. It may work temporarily, but will require increasing doseages and will most likely fall to baseline when you stop ingesting the chemical.




Based on this notion that YOU posited, the entire premise of the pharmaceutical industry is null and void.  What I'm saying is that it's fucking stupid and irresponsible to go around saying that shit to people who may actually need help.

All because you had to go open your mouth.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25428777 - 09/01/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I never once suggested that treatment should not be supplemented with other wellness habits.  Yoga, meditation, long walks, whatever-the-fuck.  You're using a straw-man argument.

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feevers said:Essentially, that's all I'm saying.




No, dude.  You said a lot more than that.  Why not just correct yourself, or rephrase, instead of arguing?

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feevers said:You say microdosing has led you to improvements in openness and irritability, all I'm suggesting is that a proper hollistic and targeted form of working with psychedelics for three weeks could likely leave someone past the point where they resort to internet rage and name calling. :shrug:




Then, just say that.  Make the recommendation to supplement the chemical treatment with other wellness habits.  Don't go on about how the chemical is an inferior treatment.  I got hot about it because you see this shit all the time--people talking out of their asses, and missing the point entirely.

I'm sorry?  I got hot, yeah, but I'm not saying you're a shitty human being.  I will not hold it against you or anything, but damn.  That needed to be called out.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25428816 - 09/01/18 03:50 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Yeeeah…  The thing about that is, for me, I can't justify using some synthetic bullshit like LSD without feeling like I'm just on drugs.  People have incorporated psilocybin mushroom into their diets FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!  I can get onboard with that.

This is basically my philosophy towards all drugs.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428818 - 09/01/18 03:51 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Not hating or anything.  I don't like big pharma drugs either.  No judgement here.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25428845 - 09/01/18 04:04 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

It's not about freaking out or anything like that.  It's just the shit like cannabis, mushrooms, cactus, etc. are ALL-NATURAL!  That simply makes sense to me.

lol "Freak out" xD…  Bro, I've held hands with the fucking Devil himself, and loved every second of it.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #25428931 - 09/01/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds good, my dude.  Cheers! :mushroom2:


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: cognitivebias]
    #25431025 - 09/02/18 03:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm.  I'm a little confused.  Would you mind elaborating on your dosing schedule (and also anything else in general)?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: cognitivebias]
    #25431122 - 09/02/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I was kinda doing the same for a while, but ultimately came to microdosing.  Why'd you switch?

This is something I'm highly interested in, obviously.  I could sit here and ask questions all day, but I'll try not to. lol


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: cognitivebias]
    #25431152 - 09/02/18 05:06 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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cognitivebias said:I find it's more "continuous therapy" than the research MAPS has done where it's one large dose.




Yes, dude!  Exactly!  This notion that you have this one, breakthrough trip, then everything is magically healed, is folley.  I'm not saying people don't have these experiences to some extent, but you have to continually make trips back to the well.  It's like therapy.  It takes time and effort to work through shit.

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cognitivebias said:What I'm hoping happens is that I will reach a point where I can just microdose.




Well, perhaps we are both on the right track.  Maybe it doesn't have to be one way or the other, black and white.  Maybe a fusion of these approaches is ideal.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq] * 1
    #25433795 - 09/03/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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heatlessbbq said:
I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.




I've taken gargantuan amounts of LSD before.  Mushrooms are way scarier.


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