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InvisibleLion of Ragnarok
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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California] * 1
    #25424452 - 08/30/18 05:20 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I've been microdosing for three weeks now for that very reason (among others).  Incredibly enough, it's actually working.

I'm sharper.  I'm more present, mindful.  I'm great in conversations again.  My creativity is on fire right now.  My mood is WAY better.  That's probably the biggest thing.  I feel open, and not irritable af all the time.  I'm fucking LAUGHING again!  I feel amazing!

I'm eating well.  My appetite has completely stabilized.  I'm working out again.  I'm cleaning everything.  And it's not like I'm forcing myself to do it.  I'm just... doing it.  It's the craziest thing, like everything is falling into place.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores] * 1
    #25432422 - 09/03/18 08:19 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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So do ya think a large dose would treat depression symptoms just as good or better than micro dossing??

Lik in a depressed state feeling shit as shit can be, I'm sour a lot of people here have experience with depression, would u still at a low point ingest 4 to 5 grams of shrooms and actually have a magical trip? I couldn't build the courage even dow it would be some way to break that feeling.

Very interesting posts thanks for sharing dudes.



Here's my somewhat in-depth account of treating myself using psilocybin:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25157269

Everyone's different, some may benefit more from micro doses, some from large doses. Some people might benefit more from a "bad" trip than a good one.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: heatlessbbq] * 1
    #25433795 - 09/03/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't want to be a loud mouth here
but I've come to assume that those who microdose mushies are frightened of microdosing LSD.




I've taken gargantuan amounts of LSD before.  Mushrooms are way scarier.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores] * 1
    #25439731 - 09/06/18 10:28 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking there would be a tolerance issue but I guess not. I really wish there was professional research on this because every source says something different.  Personally I think I am going to start with .2 grams twice a week for 2 months.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #25486844 - 09/24/18 10:12 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Also I've done it as frequently as everyday for a month with big doses mixed in and no tolerance noticable.

Also you don't need any studies...

You rely too much on others if you do.

Everyone is different for starters, we all need something different and at different times.

There is no "do it this way and your depression is cured"

You need to eat the mushrooms and listen ymto yourself.

Do what you feel is right, when you feel it is right. Trust yourself and the mushrooms. Just eat them and listen.

Also lemon tek is grinding your cubes and then squeezing fresh lemon juice on top and storing for 15 min then downing.

I wouldn't recommend it.

I did it back when I couldn't get mushrooms when I wanted and was trying to get the most bang from what I had.

Imo there's no reason to do it besides of you have less than your desired dose and want to try to intensify it.

But then imo tea is better for that anyway


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #25498843 - 09/29/18 06:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Lemons are acidic. They begin to break down the mushrooms same way your stomach does...




That reminds me of something that happened a couple weeks ago.  I take niacin as a supplement.  And as anyone who has taken niacin knows, it can make your skin flush and get itchy.  Normally, I have no problem ignoring the itchiness and don't scratch.  But that one day, I had a large glass of orange juice with my niacin and within minutes, the itchiness was so bad I couldn't stand it.  Fortunately, I was alone at home. I was scratching hard everywhere and could not get relief for a good half hour.  Clearly the acid from the orange juice caused the niacin to absorb much faster.  It was a few weeks ago and I am still covered with scratches.  Acids will definitely make some things break down and absorb faster!


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Microdosing & Depression Treatment
    #25403478 - 08/21/18 05:16 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Does anyone have any experience or information on using mushrooms for this purpose?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Proton_California]
    #25424329 - 08/30/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a recent podcast that addresses the topic:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswkdk

They talk about 'micro dosing' but suggested that treating depression and other mental illness required larger doses.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: BondVillain]
    #25424345 - 08/30/18 04:33 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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BondVillain said:
Here's a recent podcast that addresses the topic:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswkdk

They talk about 'micro dosing' but suggested that treating depression and other mental illness required larger doses.






Thanks!!


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25426467 - 08/31/18 03:15 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds great man I'm happy for you. What mushroom are u micro dossing? And how frequently every day or 2 3 times a week?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25426502 - 08/31/18 03:28 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I am currently dosing daily and it has changed my life is a short period of time and gotten me off of a prescription medication completely.
My journal outlines some of my experience through documentation.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25426738 - 08/31/18 05:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Sounds great man I'm happy for you. What mushroom are u micro dossing? And how frequently every day or 2 3 times a week?




B+ cubensis currently, although I am interested in experimenting with Panaeolus cyansescens.  I've read reports of even greater results with those.

5 days on, 2 days off.  Dose range of .3 to .7 dried grams.

Keep in mind, however, it's only been three weeks.  I'm still testing the waters, so to speak.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25427776 - 09/01/18 04:43 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

2 to 3 weeks in that's good going and ur feeling results. .3 to .7 can u feel it effect u in any way? If I eat a small amount  lik .5 it would make me feel weird,  I'd take about a .2 not to have to feel all strange.

Do u micro dose in the morning or evening?  Also is the cyanescens really much better is that just because of potency or is the other compounds that's could help. Thank for the reply dude


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Mr.spores]
    #25428270 - 09/01/18 11:18 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

For now, I'm taking it in the morning.  And you are right about feeling weird.  There have been a few mornings, after dosing, where I feel uncomfortable, actually.  It's not terrible, but it does suck a little.  It's nothing trippy or psychedelic, just a weird, uncomfortable feeling.  I don't know whether or not this is a typical symptom of low doses, or if it's me.  I suspect it's me and the headspace I'm in on those mornings.  To combat it, I've been taking the microdoses with food.  It seems to help.  Then I just try to keep myself busy.

It's not the worst thing, though, and it's only been a few times.  It's absolutely still worth it.  I'm reminded of something Tim Ferriss always says: "There's no such thing as a biological free lunch."  You can't expect a perfect physiological solution to your every problem, and certainly not without possibly affecting some other shit.  You take the good with the bad, and it's not even really bad.

And as far as the cyanescens goes, it's because of the other compounds involved--not the potency.  But Idk.  I won't talk out of my ass on this one.  I'm still looking into it.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428403 - 09/01/18 12:41 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

It might be more beneficial to look at "treating depression" instead as cultivating a better mind state.

Ingesting a chemical will not do that for you. It may work temporarily, but will require increasing doseages and will most likely fall to baseline when you stop ingesting the chemical.

Mushrooms can certainly help you to achieve a better mind state, but it may involve some creativity based upon your individual needs, and work on your part outside of simply eating some fungus.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: feevers]
    #25428467 - 09/01/18 01:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I mean, did even you read my posts?

Well, thanks anyway Dr. Drew, you presumptuous douche.  Go fuck yourself.


Edited by Lion of Ragnarok (09/01/18 01:12 PM)


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428496 - 09/01/18 01:24 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Lion of Ragnarok said:
I mean, did even you read my posts?

Well, thanks anyway Dr. Drew, you presumptuous douche.  Go fuck yourself.



I wasn't referencing your posts, just generally replying to OP's question, as can be implied by the fact I didn't quote anyone. If anything, my post was agreeing with your previous one.

See you in the "Cure misplaced anger by eating magic mushrooms" thread. :shrug:


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428498 - 09/01/18 01:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I mean, why do you think they have antidepressants in the first place, you retard?


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428499 - 09/01/18 01:25 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Think about what you actually said.


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Re: Microdosing & Depression Treatment [Re: Lion of Ragnarok]
    #25428514 - 09/01/18 01:33 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Consider why current research agrees that SSRI's work best when paired with psychotherapy or other therapeutic techniques, and my original post shouldn't be too hard to follow.

Not sure how or why it offends you.


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