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Mateja


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Proton_California]
#25392402 - 08/16/18 01:09 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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TaderHoagie said: They taste like butt.
So before they drop they taste that much better? I have never hated the taste but I don think I have eaten the spores either
I have never noticed difference 8n taste between the caps full of spores and the stems
Does it really matter if the spore load is on the inside or the outside of the cap? You're still ingesting it..
If (IF) spores taste that bad then only way to avoid it is to harvest only young fruits who haven't started to produce spores yet.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25392490 - 08/16/18 01:54 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
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Proton_California said:
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TaderHoagie said: They taste like butt.
So before they drop they taste that much better? I have never hated the taste but I don think I have eaten the spores either
I have never noticed difference 8n taste between the caps full of spores and the stems
Does it really matter if the spore load is on the inside or the outside of the cap? You're still ingesting it..
If (IF) spores taste that bad then only way to avoid it is to harvest only young fruits who haven't started to produce spores yet.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Proton_California]
#25392518 - 08/16/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't notice any difference in taste. I just yhink spores and open caps don't look as good in a bag
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Mateja


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25392527 - 08/16/18 02:12 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree, fruits looks nicer with spore load on the inside of caps 
But I still grow my mushies until they start dropping
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Caps McGee
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25392555 - 08/16/18 02:23 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why though? Not really getting much more actives, psilocybin production shifts to spore production, while growth rate increases: effectively diluting your actives throughout more mushroom tissue... Unless you're shooting for weight, in which case...
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TaderHoagie
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25392599 - 08/16/18 02:43 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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We eat with our eyes first. There's a visual appeal of a nice harvest before the spore explosion, and there's a supposed loss of potency in older fruits. It's one of those "I heard"s that's been around here, but I don't know if there's data to back it up.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25392609 - 08/16/18 02:48 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: Why though? Not really getting much more actives, psilocybin production shifts to spore production, while growth rate increases: effectively diluting your actives throughout more mushroom tissue... Unless you're shooting for weight, in which case...

That's a theory. Someone thinks that's what happens. Said it. And now its a "fact". Its probably not a fact at all.
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boom boom

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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25392775 - 08/16/18 04:03 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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They certainly don't look pretty.
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Mateja


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: boom boom]
#25392823 - 08/16/18 04:24 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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The way I see it more mushroom tissue=more stuff with psilocybin/psilocin
Some may say more weight=more water..
There were two friends, one realized that he can not stop his own death and got depressed
And the other one realized he can not stop his own birth and was exalted
Idk what I'm talking about but more shrooms is more shrooms, and no one knows when and how the actives are produced anyway..
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25392885 - 08/16/18 04:45 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to harvest before they opened but I think you do lose weight and I think that more weight equals more alkaloids. I think it's a bit linear to think that psilocybin production stops when spore production starts. I think the taste is comparable but initial texture is certainly different. And they not only look nicer when not sporing everywhere they keep nicer in regards to fitting into containers and general breakage.
Is there anything people can do to encourage even opening of the caps of the canopy or is it mostly a stain thing?
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Caps McGee
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Captain Shadow]
#25393402 - 08/16/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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... Y'all probably right! Lol I wonder how one goes about testing this...
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tnightengale
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25393497 - 08/16/18 09:48 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi, first time grower and I just completed my first flush harvest using Bod's TEK.
Thank you to this thread for your advice. Some areas didn't grow and it came out to be ~900g wet and ~100g dried.

Also I waited a day too long and many of the fruits deposited spores. I picked the shrooms by hand as I did not have a suitable faucet or hose.
I then re-wetted my substrate in its tub for 10mins with water (up to the surface of the substrate).
Now my substrate looks like this:

And has pulled away from the sides of the tub:

Questions: - what are the implications of the spores dropping for both the dried mushrooms (that have some spores on them) and the mycelium that remains? - how should I think about doing another flush with this substrate:
- is it suitable to do another flush? (why/why not)
- how does one do another flush: what steps are required?
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Mateja


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: tnightengale]
#25393508 - 08/16/18 09:56 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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You simply rehydrate the substrate for a half day or so and then let it fruit once more! Gl
Also you should invest in a food dehydrator, 900g fresh might dry down to 60-80g dry instead of 100g
if you use dehydrator but it's worth it knowing you're storing only dry fruits and not "dry" fruits with 20% water in them..
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Qayyn Eb-Ur
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25393520 - 08/16/18 10:10 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateah said: You simply rehydrate the substrate for a half day or so and then let it fruit once more! Gl
Also you should invest in a food dehydrator, 900g fresh might dry down to 60-80g dry instead of 100g
if you use dehydrator but it's worth it knowing you're storing only dry fruits and not "dry" fruits with 20% water in them..
Concur. This is from my prepping background, but most people donβt realize how dry βcracker dryβ actually is. Mushrooms seems to be no exception.
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Captain Shadow


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Qayyn Eb-Ur]
#25394460 - 08/17/18 12:47 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Day 9 of 3qt spawn to 1 brick coir in a 54 with lid flipped off the bat. Most of it looks good to me, nicer than usual actually, I'm just concerned about the top/bottom left corners. They look dry'ish, fluffy blobby tomentosy, no beading, the tub walls are also clear in those spots.
Ideas, suggestions?
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Caps McGee
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Captain Shadow]
#25394478 - 08/17/18 12:55 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dry? I've had a few small boxes do this that weren't sitting properly: only one one side where the lid was sitting off
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Captain Shadow


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25394551 - 08/17/18 01:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's square on the floor and substrate is even. I've been trying to understand how I'm getting dry spots on certain sides and I'm thinking it might be the orientation of the windows which are on one side only and I haven't been rotating or anything. The one directional light might also be affecting how my caps have been opening in an uneven pattern from one side to the other. Hmm.
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Mateja]
#25394633 - 08/17/18 02:26 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mateah said: I agree, fruits looks nicer with spore load on the inside of caps 
 omg
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Caps McGee
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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Captain Shadow]
#25394830 - 08/17/18 04:27 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Captain Shadow said: It's square on the floor and substrate is even. I've been trying to understand how I'm getting dry spots on certain sides and I'm thinking it might be the orientation of the windows which are on one side only and I haven't been rotating or anything. The one directional light might also be affecting how my caps have been opening in an uneven pattern from one side to the other. Hmm.
Rotate it a few days, but don't change anything else about how you treat them... give you an answer
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Captain Shadow


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Re: BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub TEK (No Holes No Polyfil) [Re: Caps McGee]
#25394845 - 08/17/18 04:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said:
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Captain Shadow said: It's square on the floor and substrate is even. I've been trying to understand how I'm getting dry spots on certain sides and I'm thinking it might be the orientation of the windows which are on one side only and I haven't been rotating or anything. The one directional light might also be affecting how my caps have been opening in an uneven pattern from one side to the other. Hmm.
Rotate it a few days, but don't change anything else about how you treat them... give you an answer
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