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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jrob]
    #25342252 - 07/23/18 01:51 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

If you're not using an isolate then your test is invalid.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Jrob]
    #25342259 - 07/23/18 01:54 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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not sure if splitting them up with such a small number would work well, especially in a full size sgfc.



And some still claim "not a thing wrong with the SGFC"
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I still support you Jrob even if you chose to put the cakes in the SGFC, just make sure you mist the perlite as well and check it daily if need be. You built it and of course you should test it out, it's mycology whatever you chose to do. I just want people to have shrooms. Gl buddy whatever you chose as your FC :super:


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25342260 - 07/23/18 01:55 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

Well, Aren't we testing for ease of use and consistency?

For example, if the sgfc cakes are dry, blueing and a newby has a hard time getting in the groove; while his cakes in this new chamber are generally doing better; doesn't that tell us something about this method being "easier" than the sgfc?

It wouldn't be testing to say this method makes more mushrooms, that would need an isolate to compare weight outcomes.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25342268 - 07/23/18 01:59 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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If you're not using an isolate then your test is invalid.



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This is one of the tests that doesn't require isolates in my humble opinion.
Basically the only thing tested here is the humidity..


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateah]
    #25342270 - 07/23/18 02:01 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

I don't buy into the has to be an isolate mentality

I grow plenty of MS and they generally all perform about the same and only really see drastically different results when I fuck something up


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25342316 - 07/23/18 02:30 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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I don't buy into the has to be an isolate mentality




You don't have to buy it. It's basic scientific method. You change one variable at a time. You can't do that without an isolate.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25342321 - 07/23/18 02:34 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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If you're not using an isolate then your test is invalid.



Not necessarily. You just need an absurd big sample pool. N=1000


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25342329 - 07/23/18 02:38 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

Eh i dont buy that either 365. Most domesticated varieties i see perform about as well as clones. Timmymeow only does MS syringe and gets uniform canopies all the time. The whole point of domesticating rustywhyte was consistent high yield. :shrug:


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25342333 - 07/23/18 02:39 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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I don't buy into the has to be an isolate mentality




You don't have to buy it. It's basic scientific method. You change one variable at a time. You can't do that without an isolate.





You are correct.

But if you're saying running a test on non-isolates provides no usable information, then you're wrong in my experience

People are a bit obsessive about this scientific method in regards to what is and is not a valid observation in growing mushrooms

Its like I haven't even grown a tub of mushrooms in the last year that I could write off poor performance to MS, and MS is all I have grown, and people talk like its just such a huge gamble when they basically all grow the same


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: JHOVA]
    #25342334 - 07/23/18 02:41 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

My first bulk grow was with Martinique a pretty widespread variety and it performed better than clones Iā€™ve grown since then and I had no idea what the fuck I was doing. All three had wall to wall flushes


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Germs]
    #25342378 - 07/23/18 03:02 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

Even with an isolate any study worth its salt would still have to calibrate reliability. Grow that isolate a few dozen times and always hit the same numbers. You need to make sure your methods and skills are even up to par otherwise your skill will create too much noise in the data anyway.

So in fact isolate or not you really need a huge sample size of grows to get a good statistical analysis.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateah]
    #25342388 - 07/23/18 03:06 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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Jrob said:
not sure if splitting them up with such a small number would work well, especially in a full size sgfc.



And some still claim "not a thing wrong with the SGFC"
:whyyy:


I still support you Jrob even if you chose to put the cakes in the SGFC, just make sure you mist the perlite as well and check it daily if need be. You built it and of course you should test it out, it's mycology whatever you chose to do. I just want people to have shrooms. Gl buddy whatever you chose as your FC :super:




Well, to be honest, I haven't felt super confident about the sgfc method from the beginning. I think I am going to try your method and see how it goes. I have 2 2lb grain bags that I am going to do 2 shoeboxes with so I feel pretty good about ending up with some mushrooms one way or the other. Thank you for the kind words, I will make sure and update as I go.


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    #25342430 - 07/23/18 03:36 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #25342438 - 07/23/18 03:41 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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    #25342447 - 07/23/18 03:47 PM (7 months, 26 days ago)

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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: pixelpopper]
    #25342647 - 07/23/18 06:09 PM (7 months, 25 days ago)

Humpty BUMPty one day perhaps STICKY? :lol:


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateah]
    #25342708 - 07/23/18 06:39 PM (7 months, 25 days ago)

You haven't had any issues with mold or other contaminates growing in your wet material? I would like to try this with some soaked perlite or a thick layer of moist verm.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Mateah]
    #25342724 - 07/23/18 06:45 PM (7 months, 25 days ago)

Have you tried a mono with no holes?


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: p9hu7]
    #25342764 - 07/23/18 07:06 PM (7 months, 25 days ago)

It's really hard to get anything to grow on wet coir but if you wanted to be extra sure you can lower or spike the PH of coir to make 100% sure nothing can get to it. You could even mix in some chemicals to cake care of that but I don't see the necessity simply because my coir never contams.


Check out Mushboy's 'Making Shoeboxes' and Bodisatta's 'Unmodified tubs' :thumbup:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695/gonew/1#UNREAD


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