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Moe's Outdoor Method
    #2532727 - 04/06/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey there guys...

I was thinking of putting my own twist on this method, with cleanliness and bulk in mind...give me some feedback if you will.

As opposed to digging a hole in the ground, I was considering getting a very large plastic pot. It would be of the size to accomodate a small tree...maybe three feet tall by three feet wide at its widest point...maybe bigger, maybe smaller...not of huge concern. I suppose it would depend most on the amount of cakes you would be using initially.

In any case, I was thinking of putting a layer of wet pearlite on the bottom of the pot. This is for two reasons. One, so the substrate isnt in direct contact with the ground, and two, to hold an extra resovour of water. Into the center of the pot would be placed a wooden dowel that sticks above the rim of the pot about a foot or so (more on this later). The substrate and compost would then be put around the dowel, thus supporting it. I would follow Moe's method of layering, using hay and compost..then a second layer of substrate, then the final layers.

I would have the plot ready to go at this point. Then I would drape a clear, heavy plastic sheet over the dowel and pot, forming a humidity tent of sorts. I would put a couple slits in the plastic here and there so as to encourage a bit of air flow. Every other day or so the plot would be visited, aired out, and watered if required.

I had some questions...could a mixture of high mountain compost and coconut coir be substituted for the dung that Moe suggests? Has anyone ever used high mountain, and is it worth it? About how much volume is 20 lbs. of compost??? Where would you suggest getting ahold of hay, and what would be a recommended variety to look for? Could vermiculite or coir (or a mix) be used as a substitute for hay in this instance?

Finally, does it matter how deep the substrate layer is? My friend is dealing with a lot of cakes and the substrate layer may be deep..his concern is that they would grow out the sides of the plot as opposed to out the top. Also, if the substrate layer is deep, should the dung and top layers be proportioinally deep?

Thanks for your time and any input.

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Re: Moe's Outdoor Method [Re: fluff_master]
    #2532799 - 04/06/04 09:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Basically you seem to be talking about a massive casing. The hay is needed for nutrients, not just for a substrate, though. Also, I don't quite understand the purpose of the dowels.


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Re: Moe's Outdoor Method [Re: fluff_master]
    #2532908 - 04/06/04 09:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

this sounds good
you could just put the plastic on top ,the shrooms will just push it up

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Re: Moe's Outdoor Method [Re: KaptKid]
    #2533100 - 04/06/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i would use vermiculite instead of perlite. holds water much better.

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Re: Moe's Outdoor Method [Re: fluff_master]
    #2533125 - 04/06/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

and doesnt perlite have some other chemicals in it, too?

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