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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
    #25324152 - 07/13/18 01:52 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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How much better do tubs perform when sterilising coir first before spawning? (ofc clean spawn is first)



Coir seems to do better "cooked " ,but if you wanted to take a chance, assuming it was clean, simply hydrating to field capacity would probably work...
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Idk I've never sterilized coir. Just bucket tek it. That manure ^^ I sterilized sorta. An hour in the pc instead of pasturizing



Sterilizing basically defeats the purpose of poo


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324163 - 07/13/18 01:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't sterilize it. 1 hour isn't enough to sterilize. I do it every time I use this brand of poo and it works for me. Bovung manure humus at 1:1:1. It's in a yellow bag. Great stuff, mix in a handful of peat or coir and it's perfect.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324165 - 07/13/18 01:56 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I don't believe that is true, though, it's reported that a pasteurized poo sub will outlast a sterilized poo sub, which makes sense.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25324183 - 07/13/18 02:01 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't believe that is true, though, it's reported that a pasteurized poo sub will outlast a sterilized poo sub, which makes sense.



Something to do with the microorganisms left alive after pasteurization


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324191 - 07/13/18 02:07 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I understand that part of it. But it does fine when I "sterilize" it. I think it's more of a case that it isn't necessary to sterilize poo. But u still can if u want.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25324194 - 07/13/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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a pasteurized poo sub will outlast a sterilized poo sub, which makes sense.




Still doesn't mean that sterilizing it defeats the purpose of it.  Some species (read Panaeolus) prefer/require a poo-based sub in order to fruit well regardless of whether it was pasteurized or sterilized.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25324200 - 07/13/18 02:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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a pasteurized poo sub will outlast a sterilized poo sub, which makes sense.




Still doesn't mean that sterilizing it defeats the purpose of it.  Some species (read Panaeolus) prefer/require a poo-based sub in order to fruit well regardless of whether it was pasteurized or sterilized.



Thank u! It's still poo either way. It's a bulk ingredient. The microbes just help out if they're there, but don't hinder how it works if they're not there. If that was the case, it would work the same way with sterilized grain. They don't lose anything beneficial from sterilizing them.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: nube424]
    #25324208 - 07/13/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Point taken, just don't suppose I'd use poo over coir if I were sterilizing anyway... Not keen on eating from a box of shit if it's not necessary... I would like to grow some pans though so, may be getting my hands dirty anyways lol


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324212 - 07/13/18 02:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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    #25324214 - 07/13/18 02:21 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324216 - 07/13/18 02:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Point taken, just don't suppose I'd use poo over coir if I were sterilizing anyway... Not keen on eating from a box of shit if it's not necessary... I would like to grow some pans though so, may be getting my hands dirty anyways lol



Composted cow shit is like dirt. Don't think of it as like a big stinky shit haha. And I only use it for small experience to get myself acquainted to it so I can grow some pans when they come my way.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: StingingRoger]
    #25324223 - 07/13/18 02:29 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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How much better do tubs perform when sterilising coir first before spawning? (ofc clean spawn is first)




We are gonna find out soon enough.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #25324242 - 07/13/18 02:38 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah... I've played with it gardening... just the thought really lol... though when it comes down to it, probably worse shit in city water


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324294 - 07/13/18 03:07 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

How do you guys combat hot ass temps? Open air fruiting help?

Is that gonna reduce humidity substantially ?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25324295 - 07/13/18 03:08 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Only thing u can do is lower the temp or move it somewhere cooler.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25324299 - 07/13/18 03:11 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah... I've played with it gardening... just the thought really lol... though when it comes down to it, probably worse shit in city water



It's composted when u buy it tho. The type I'm talking about. Looks and smells like dirt and colonized great ime

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #25324325 - 07/13/18 03:28 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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How do you guys combat hot ass temps? Open air fruiting help?

Is that gonna reduce humidity substantially ?



AC..a little...and yes :thumbup:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Tormato]
    #25325000 - 07/13/18 09:08 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys, quick question. Sorry if this issue has been brought up before. I made 4 shoebox tubs recently without a liner. I followed the recommendation to make the sub level. In 2 of the 4 trays, the mycelial growth has completely messed up the leveled surface and now there are (some quite substantial) peaks and valleys. Has anyone else run into this? Will this affect even pinset or possibly cause side pinning?

Also, I love your username Tormato. I'm assuming it's named after the Yes album? One of my favorites

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Majordoobage]
    #25325024 - 07/13/18 09:18 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #25325157 - 07/13/18 11:47 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure it will be fine bro, what choice does it have ?


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