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 PsilocyBen17
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#25318042 - 07/10/18 07:39 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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After several years of small scale cultivating I've moved into a place that allows me to scale up my grows. I finally have a place where I can work in peace and, because of the setup, really get a lot done.
I'm at a place where I can run about 45 quarts of spawn at a time and fruit 6 tubs at once. Its a lot of work, but like many of you I'm very passionate about cultivating and I find that since the summer started and I have a bit more free time on my hands I've been devoting a minimum of a couple hours a day devoting to the hobby.
The reason I'm starting this thread is because I'd really like to discuss strategies for maintaining a grow space of this size. How do you get the most shit done in the least amount of time? Lets talk strategies for effeciency when it comes to a space this big.
I'd also like to talk about how to keep things clean and tidy when you are running tubs and spawn in the same space....today I was pulling a sub out of a tub to harvest it and I noticed it some trich that I had'nt seen before. Not a second later I had knocked the sub, sliding it off the table and onto a huge mess on the floor. Shit like this REALLY freaks me out. How concerned should I be about mold/contams in a small space like mine? How, when, and how often should I be cleaning my space? Stamets offers good advice in GGMM but I find these strategies are mostly out of reach for the amateur.
       
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It might be hard to tell from the pics but I colonize and fruit my tub a few feet away from my bench. The black chair is the chair i sit in for bench work. Its really cramped in there, hence my concern for a trich infestation...
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Personally, I've never found contam'd tubs to be a problem as far as keeping grow room clean. I also use my grow room as a work space, which means lots of constantly moving everything around, and stirring up air/dust quite a bit.
I've had trich'd tubs plenty of times and even kept them for flushes, in the room where I do all my myc work (aside from kitchen prep like grain/PC).
I find as long as you do the important stuff clean (SAB work, etc), you can grow in a filthy space and it doesn't really matter.
That's just my experience though and I'm interested to monitor this thread for other's
Edited by pixelpopper (07/10/18 08:05 AM)
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: pixelpopper]
#25318085 - 07/10/18 08:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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i thought it wasnt a good idea to have a fh in the same room as your tubs?
cause it can blow mold spores all around and is extra wear on the filter or some shit.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: pixelpopper]
#25318086 - 07/10/18 08:16 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diggin the office chair I think I have the same one also the kids play mat as well as your grain drying station, going to have to make one of those. I was pretty crazy about trying to keep my place clean but if it's not air tight somethings always going to get in or if your running a filter you might be good. My schools lab had uv lights hanging that might help with contam Control. I always had a couple cans of Lysol to wipe everything down with and spray the air.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: mushboy]
#25318088 - 07/10/18 08:19 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
i thought it wasnt a good idea to have a fh in the same room as your tubs?
cause it can blow mold spores all around and is extra wear on the filter or some shit.
the flow hoods sucking the air in and running it through the filter trapping the spores I get what your saying but I think it'd be better to run it. If I ever get the money I'd even get an air filtration system just to have running in the corner of my room.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: Dorfnob]
#25318108 - 07/10/18 08:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im doing 40-80 jars a week making 4-6 tubs a week. Over a hundred jars of spawn in rotation. Plus shoeboxes.
My grow room is a bedroom. My lab is sitting in front of a flowhood(and used to just be a SAB)
I boil my grain a day ahead of time
Pressure cook the next day
G2G is dominating my inoculation game.
Getting rid of trash and spent substrate is by far the biggest hassle.
I work 9-9.5 hour days M-F and 5 hours on Saturday.
People be like I aint got no time blows my mind. I cook everything for my household too.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: bodhisatta]
#25318130 - 07/10/18 08:47 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
Im doing 40-80 jars a week making 4-6 tubs a week. Over a hundred jars of spawn in rotation. Plus shoeboxes.
My grow room is a bedroom. My lab is sitting in front of a flowhood(and used to just be a SAB)
I boil my grain a day ahead of time
Pressure cook the next day
G2G is dominating my inoculation game.
Getting rid of trash and spent substrate is by far the biggest hassle.
I work 9-9.5 hour days M-F and 5 hours on Saturday.
People be like I aint got no time blows my mind. I make all my own dinners too.
right on. have you ever considered getting into bags? I’m not sure if. I should buy a cpl more packs of jars, or save up a bit, get an AA, and start running bags. heat sealing infront of a hood seems a bit intimidating
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: bodhisatta]
#25318183 - 07/10/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
Im doing 40-80 jars a week making 4-6 tubs a week. Over a hundred jars of spawn in rotation. Plus shoeboxes.
I work 9-9.5 hour days M-F and 5 hours on Saturday.
I cook everything for my household too.
Nice Bro, props.
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bodhisatta said:
Getting rid of trash and spent substrate is by far the biggest hassle.
That's allota substrate. You mind me asking for tips? Or a tek? lol
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: Hobbyist]
#25318230 - 07/10/18 09:53 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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All my teks are in my signature.
I would do bags but i have so many jars. The investment in a sealer and 1000 bags seems pretty funny when i have a couple hundred mason jars already. Maybe some day.
AA pressure cookers make absolutely no sense for this hobby when a presto is only 70 dollars and weighs less than half as much and the lid takes 1 second to put on. The ones with built in elements are the only AA that would be worth getting but for the price ill buy another stove and 4 more prestos.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: bodhisatta]
#25318236 - 07/10/18 09:56 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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good to know....do you use the 23qt size?
Edited by PsilocyBen17 (07/10/18 09:58 AM)
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Quote:
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good to know....do you use the 23qt size?
I do...It's awesome!
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: Tormato]
#25318251 - 07/10/18 10:08 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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the website says it fits 7 qts. can you put 3 on there side to fit 10?
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Yea, see my pressure cooker tek for a picture
Here is how the wide or regular mouth ones fit
 
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: bodhisatta]
#25318342 - 07/10/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Forgive me, I think I've read through all your teks but I haven't seen a method of substrate disposal.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: Hobbyist]
#25318347 - 07/10/18 11:25 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hobbyist said:
Forgive me, I think I've read through all your teks but I haven't seen a method of substrate disposal.
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The most shit done in the least amount of time? Bags. You can easily expand a quart to four bags.
Use the space more effectively, you basically said it: get shelves to use the space below your tubs (you could fit another 6 tubs below the ones you have now).
For cleanliness, spray down the walls, floor, mop well and leave the hood on for a day. Make a dedicated lab area with a prechamber if you want to go that far.
Also consider upgrading your pc. With a 941 you could do 12 bags in one cycle, run that once every couple weeks to stay busy.
With a dedicated lab set up, sizable pc and bags you will be maximizing your space. You say 6 tubs is a lot... But how big is your actual fruiting space, if you sectioned off the lab. Because I bet you could do 12 tubs every two weeks and work a 40 hour a week job.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: pixelpopper]
#25318380 - 07/10/18 11:53 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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pixelpopper said:
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Hobbyist said:
Forgive me, I think I've read through all your teks but I haven't seen a method of substrate disposal.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: bodhisatta]
#25318387 - 07/10/18 11:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said:
Im doing 40-80 jars a week making 4-6 tubs a week. Over a hundred jars of spawn in rotation. Plus shoeboxes.
My grow room is a bedroom. My lab is sitting in front of a flowhood(and used to just be a SAB)
I boil my grain a day ahead of time
Pressure cook the next day
G2G is dominating my inoculation game.
Getting rid of trash and spent substrate is by far the biggest hassle.
I work 9-9.5 hour days M-F and 5 hours on Saturday.
People be like I aint got no time blows my mind. I cook everything for my household too.
Save yourself a lot of time, and effort by getting a bigger PC, then switching from jars to spawn bags.
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Re: Maintaining a Lab//Growroom [Re: hamloaf]
#25318445 - 07/10/18 12:37 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The amount im doing isn't that much effort anyway. I can do it on top of a full time job+life is what I'm getting at. And i smoke a fuckload of weed
If I needed to do more I would probably just go low pressure steam 55gal drum.
Bags would be my next natural move but im perfectly happy with my jars, all 200+ of them, for now so I haven't went the bag route. For me to get into bags would be like $3-400 for a sealer and a box of 1000 bags. Pretty low cost investment but I don't need a Ferrari when I'm just trying to do a couple pounds a week. The bags biggest benefit to me would be not having to shake grain jars lol. Would just feel funny to abandon all those jars tho
I just switched from doing 10 tubs a year on average to more than twice that a month. Granted I do have one helper now.
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